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| 2011-05-02 22:18 <tshepang> cedk, I'm curious what makes the GTK+ interface more responsive than a web client could be | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:33 <cedk> tshepang: because we have a custom network protocol | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:34 <cedk> tshepang: also native widget run faster | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:34 <tshepang> can u expand a bit on 'custom network protocol' thing | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:35 <tshepang> what's that? | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:35 <cedk> tshepang: the communication between tryton and trytond is based on Python pickle | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:35 <cedk> tshepang: it is fast and work well between two python based programs | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:36 <cedk> with a webclient you must use HTTP | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:36 <tshepang> and that's faster than json files (or whatever)? | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:36 <tshepang> I mean pickle files | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:37 <cedk> tshepang: it should be "benchmarked" | ||
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| 2011-05-02 22:43 <hoRn> Hi | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:45 <hoRn> still migrating to 2.0 ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:46 <hoRn> only a lot of view_type="form" in act.window ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:49 <cedk> hoRn: yes that's the cost for a better API ;-) | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:49 <hoRn> and sticking in a small problem: our client has a lot of stock.moves done with a product formerly defined as stockable. after 10.000.xxx of sales he desided to change it to 'service'. so the validation trows an error | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:50 <cedk> hoRn: why did he want to change that? | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:52 <cedk> hoRn: and what was the error? | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:52 <hoRn> cedk: that's an issue of the business-case. he is doing coating services. so stock don't fit the needs like in normal trade | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:54 <cedk> hoRn: don't understand | ||
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| 2011-05-02 22:57 <hoRn> cedk: its complicated - I don't have a final solution for this: the customer get's 10.000 of raw products and sends out them coated - this case is done with the standard functions in stock | ||
| 2011-05-02 22:59 <hoRn> cedk: but he has a product called: 'coating per m²" -this is a classic service | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:00 <hoRn> cedk: He was using this like a stockable product - and i don't have seen this | ||
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| 2011-05-02 23:03 <hoRn> cedk: but now I'm thinking about a solution to fix this at the end of pipe: check_product_type should delete all moves with product.type="service" - but not sure | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:06 <hoRn> cedk: a little question: the constraints of the models are checked every update - so if I have a field required in the mainmodul and overwritten the same field in a moduleextension, the update will ckeck the first contraint, right? | ||
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| 2011-05-02 23:09 <hoRn> cedk: if seen right the update uses the graph of the modules | ||
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| 2011-05-02 23:10 <cedk> hoRn: yes constraints are always evaluated | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:10 <cedk> hoRn: but you can override the method | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:11 <hoRn> cedk: yes - thats the best way - so I can clean it up on the fly | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:13 <cedk> hoRn: but for required=True on a field, it is a little bit complicated | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:13 <hoRn> cedk: anybody a beer? still on the way to the basement ... | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:14 <cedk> hoRn: you can remove it by extending the Model, but you must also need to drop the NOT NULL at the DB level | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:14 <cedk> hoRn: and also this can brings some trouble because if the field is required it is because it is needed for some part of the code | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:15 <hoRn> cedk: back | ||
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| 2011-05-02 23:19 <hoRn> cedk: so my question: in move the cost_price is mostly required. what is the objective of this ? (I'm not to so deep in this module) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:21 <hoRn> cedk: finally if I have done my project I can provide a maodule for services on customer products similar to the ideas of the production module ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:25 <hoRn> cedk: the business case is: customer delvers a product > company finishes the product > the product goes back to the customer or to a third party | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:25 <sharoon> hoRn: is'nt that c=workflow called drop shipping ? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:26 <hoRn> sharoon: ? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:26 <sharoon> hoRn: the business case you mentioned ? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:27 <hoRn> sharoon: not so familar with the english wording in business cases | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:28 <sharoon> hoRn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_shipping | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:28 <hoRn> sharoon: just wikipediing | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:30 <hoRn> sharoon: no - this is more a trade case? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:31 <sharoon> hoRn: got you, is this more like a repair ? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:32 <hoRn> sharoon: finsihing, upgrading, processing ? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:32 <sharoon> hoRn: got it, are you developing a module for this ? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:33 <hoRn> sharoon: it's industrial coating - developing since 6 month | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:33 <hoRn> ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:34 <hoRn> shoroon: its still in use in a productive tryton environment, but changing every day | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:34 <sharoon> hoRn: Continuous deployment!! | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:36 <hoRn> sharoon: yes - but I'm still trying to develop generic modules - sometimes I think it's mission impossible | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:37 <hoRn> and i never can contribute, because cedk is complaining my editor ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:38 <sharoon> hoRn: i dint get you ?? is cedk complaining about your code quality ?? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:39 <hoRn> sharoon: YES! | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:40 <hoRn> sharoon: joke - I only pushed one time ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:40 <sharoon> hoRn: oh dont worry. that's something he never gives up on... but its for your own good. From his own words "Tryton is like BSD in linux world" | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:41 <hoRn> sharoon: for me is funny - because I get so much from the quality of tryton. RESPECT! | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:42 <hoRn> sharoon: I stille in love ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:43 <hoRn> sharoon: oops! syntax | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:45 <hoRn> sharoon: In serious I think I will have in the next 2 month a working concept for this kind of business | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:45 <sharoon> hoRn: it should be more like PYSON - In('Love', {'tryton': 1}) ;) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:46 <hoRn> sharoon: I hate pyson! because the brackets are never set right in my code .... | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:48 <hoRn> sharoon: by the way - you have experiences in drop shipping? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:49 <sharoon> hoRn: nope, i think i will have to do something for a customer to implement that | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:50 <cedk> hoRn: cost_price is for accounting stock | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:50 <cedk> hoRn: it is the cost of the product you are moving | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:51 <cedk> hoRn: it is also interresting for cost price computation (average, FIFO etc.) | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:52 <hoRn> sharoon: ok. tomorrow I have a first meeting with a possible customer who is selling "electricity contract" : no stock, nothing, but a own business case as well | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:52 <cedk> hoRn: about your business case, what is the product provided by the customer? Is it generic (always the same kind of product)? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:53 <cedk> hoRn: I guess you have some kind of numbering on those products? | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:53 <hoRn> cedk: how to explain? yes - there are finally 3 service: wetcoating, powdercoating, sandblast | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:56 <hoRn> cedk: the company is doing it in 2 ways: custom product like 'coat my XXX' and series production for the automotive industries | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:56 <cedk> hoRn: so I think like sharoon, it looks like a repair service | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:58 <cedk> hoRn: If I had to design such thing, I will create a Model that represents the order of coating | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:58 <hoRn> cedk: the business case could be similar - but the term is finishing | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:58 <cedk> hoRn: and this order will generate some stock move depending of the what is used | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:59 <hoRn> cedk: I do it like that | ||
| 2011-05-02 23:59 <cedk> hoRn: term doesn't matter, I guess to be generic we should find the good one |
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