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| 2011-03-02 04:06 <Hydrant> hello all | ||
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| 2011-03-02 11:36 <serpent213> hi | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:36 <serpent213> just found out, openerp is using float for accounting | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:36 <serpent213> now i'm, thinking about cross migrating from openerp v5 to tryton, instead of v6 | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:37 <serpent213> system is not in heavy use yet | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:37 <serpent213> is there a ruby/rails connector for tryton? like ooor for openerp? | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:39 <cedk> serpent213: yes but in Python :-) | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:39 <cedk> serpent213: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/proteus/1.8.1 | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:40 <cedk> serpent213: there is also http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/TrytonDjango | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:45 <serpent213> mmmkay, so i either have to learn django or port ooor... | ||
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| 2011-03-02 11:48 <cedk> serpent213: I guess you can rewrite proteus in Ruby | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:52 <nicoe> why using ruby ? python is better #troll | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:53 <serpent213> hrhr | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:53 <serpent213> thx, cedk | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:56 -!- ChanServ changed mode/#tryton -> +o cedk | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:58 <serpent213> http://www.tryton.org/documentation.html | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:58 <serpent213> shouldn't 1.8 be listed there? | ||
| 2011-03-02 11:58 <serpent213> as http://doc.tryton.org/1.8/ does work...? | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:01 <cedk> serpent213: yes | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:03 <cedk> serpent213: you can make your first contribution :-) http://hg.tryton.org/www.tryton.org/ | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:18 <ikks> cedk we have now spanish wikipedia article version for Tryton :) | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:18 <ikks> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryton | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:22 <serpent213> cedk: how do i get access? | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:27 <cedk> serpent213: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowtoContribute | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:53 <serpent213> should have worked...? | ||
| 2011-03-02 12:58 <cedk> serpent213: I don't understand | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:04 <serpent213> i did "hg commit" | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:05 <serpent213> didn't give a response | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:05 <serpent213> i never used hg much before :) | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:27 <cedk> serpent213: should read http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/TutorialFirstChange | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:52 <serpent213> i did | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:52 <serpent213> hg tip shows my change | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:53 <nicoe> serpent213, you are not allowed to push yet | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <nicoe> Just send us a patch | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <serpent213> push is not mentioned in the tutorial | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <serpent213> % hg push | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <serpent213> pushing to http://hg.tryton.org/www.tryton.org/ | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <serpent213> searching for changes | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <serpent213> remote: ssl required | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:54 <serpent213> ok | ||
| 2011-03-02 13:55 <serpent213> where should i send it? | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:02 <cedk> serpent213: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowtoContribute | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:05 <serpent213> it's not mentioned there, is it? | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:05 <serpent213> "how to submit" just talks about exporting... | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:08 <udono> serpent213: hi, the usual way is to create a ticket and attach the patch to the ticket. When you are unsure and want to discuss, put a codereview on http://codereview.appspot.com | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:09 <udono> I have an attachment with the name index.html. When I try to download the file via webDAV and firefox/chrome, the browser ask me to save the file, instead of showing it. How can I show the file instead of 'download'? | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:23 <cedk> udono: WebDAV is not HTTP | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:24 <udono> cedk: yes, but it uses http | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:24 <cedk> serpent213: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowtoContribute#Testing/Bugtracking | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:24 <cedk> udono: it is over HTTP | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:25 <nicoe> It might be a Content-Disposition problem BUT I think webdav should not send different content-disposition header according to the extension of the file | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:28 <serpent213> if i had known this before... | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:28 <serpent213> ,) | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:29 <udono> cedk: nicoe: I just try to add text/html to http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/file/d7e0da4e4d6e/trytond/webdav/webdav.py#l40 but it will not work. | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:31 <nicoe> Indeed, I think that when Firefox remarks that this is webdav it will by default and whatever the mimetype of the file is pop up the "Save As" window | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:31 <nicoe> But I might be wrong | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:32 <nicoe> To be sure of that you could use wireshark to check that the correct header is sent by tryton to firefox | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:32 <udono> My general aim is to provide the sphinx html documentation from the server to the client. But maybe Tryton should support a simple webserver for this? | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:32 <nicoe> It might be a good idea | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:33 <udono> nicoe: thanks for the tipps, I will try my luck with wireshark | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:34 <nicoe> udono: np | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:35 <serpent213> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/live-http-headers/ might be easier | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:35 <nicoe> yes indeed | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:36 <nicoe> (but since I don't use firefox I did not remember this extension ;)) | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:36 <udono> serpent213: thanks! | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:39 <cedk> udono: setup a simple webserver | ||
| 2011-03-02 14:51 <udono> cedk: yes, this already works. | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:45 <paepke> +1 for an internal webserver | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:46 <cedk> I don't understand the advantage | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:51 <paepke> cedk, advantage over what? | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:52 <nicoe> I suppose over the current situation :D | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:53 <serpent213> ACTION stumpled upon http://code.google.com/p/tryton-nereid/ recently | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:54 <paepke> viewing docs via browser and webdav is a kind of anoying (INFO:database:connect to "favicon.ico") | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:54 <paepke> which forces a login-prompt on every page view. | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:55 <paepke> ok, you can use django, werkzeug whatever to render some pages. | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:56 <cedk> paepke: I don't see what is the advantage to have a webserver inside Tryton | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:57 <paepke> cedk, ok. | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:59 <bechamel> what about sticking together a simple wsgi framework with proteus and serve files with it ? this would be easy to do and better looking | ||
| 2011-03-02 15:59 <paepke> bechamel, yes, thats what i said. you can use werkzeug for example with it. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:00 <cedk> bechamel: why do you need proteus to serve files? | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:00 <bechamel> even simpler: as files are on disk, just generate several .html files and serve eveything as static files | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:01 <bechamel> cedk: enforce access right | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:04 <paepke> bechamel, ? static files? didn't get the point | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:05 <cedk> bechamel: yes but could be done with a simple auth script in a real HTTP server | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:06 <bechamel> paepke: for attachement | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:06 <bechamel> paepke: of course this will not work for on-the-fly reports | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:07 <cedk> I think someone should define the usage of this "web server" | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:08 <paepke> udono already give an example: server online-doc. for me its another view to the data. and possibly giving access to some setup-helpers. like uri's to caldav calendars on a personal page. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:23 <cedk> paepke: documentation is static data | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:24 <paepke> cedk, yes, but delivered via the source. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:24 <cedk> paepke: so I don't see why it should be serve by trytond | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:25 <paepke> its ok for me not having a webservice within tryton. but it would fit. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:26 <paepke> you can use of course write a small wsgi app which connects via proteus or use tryton as modules (as described in the wiki) to arrange it. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:27 <cedk> paepke: what will be the use of proteus ? | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:28 <paepke> bechamel mentioned it... | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:29 <paepke> you could use xml-rpc or net-rpc, too. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:32 <paepke> cedk, if you use an extra webserver to access tryton it should possibly be programmed that it is not running on the same server. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:32 <cedk> for me documentation is static file so it doesn't require to have access to the running instance of trytond | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:33 <cedk> the authentication could be done via a simple SQL query to the database, this kind of thing are commonly supported by most http servers | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:34 <paepke> with wsgi you can write your own authenticator and use the api's of tryton. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:34 <paepke> thats not the problem | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:34 <paepke> accessing sql-server directly is bad. | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:35 <cedk> paepke: I don't find it is bad | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:36 <cedk> any way, I don't see where the discussion goes | ||
| 2011-03-02 16:36 <paepke> cedk, don't see it, too. we should not discuss it further. | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:06 <nicoe> Does anybody use ir.default ? | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:11 <yangoon> nicoe: I don't understand the question | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:12 <yangoon> I use it everyday when setting defaults in the client | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:15 <cedk> yangoon: on which fields do you use it? | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:16 <yangoon> cedk: hmm, mostly o2m, but also timezone | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:18 <cedk> yangoon: where? | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:18 <yangoon> or boolean for 'use category' on products | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:18 <cedk> yangoon: we think this feature is wrongly designed | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:24 <nicoe> yangoon, In the case of the o2m what is the use case ? | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:25 <yangoon> nicoe setting default account on sale line | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:26 <yangoon> setting language in all wizards related to translation | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:29 <cedk> yangoon: until now, I think your usage just reveal missing smart behavior in Tryton | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:29 <cedk> yangoon: and we should fix it instead of configure it every time | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:31 <yangoon> cedk: what's wrong with it? I think it is a setting per database | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:32 <cedk> yangoon: it lacks access control | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:32 <nicoe> people can set default for all users | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:33 <nicoe> people can set default on dangerous fields (imagine state being set to 'invoiced' on sales) | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:33 <yangoon> ok, could be, I only tested as admin | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:33 <cedk> yangoon: you can break stuff by setting default on some fields (like states per example) | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:35 <yangoon> yes, access control is of course a must, never tested this | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:36 <cedk> yangoon: taking your usage list: | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:36 <cedk> 'use category' -> default should be define on Company | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:37 <cedk> 'language' -> should set the language of the user | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:38 <cedk> 'account' (on invoice.line I guess) -> should use the default receivable/expense account of the company | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:38 <cedk> 'timezone' -> default could be define on Company or use the server one | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:38 <yangoon> cedk: the setting for me has two purposes: | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:39 <yangoon> 1) user specific settings to ease his work | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:39 <yangoon> 2) company specific settings for all users to define company usage | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:40 <nicoe> 1) I never saw anybody using this, usually users prefer going on specific menu entries (in their shortcuts sometimes) | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:40 <nicoe> (but I might be wrong) | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:41 <yangoon> for 1) it is the most practiced usage I am seeing (and recommending) | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:41 <nicoe> 2) If there is a specific settings for the company, it should be defined there | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:42 <nicoe> 2) moreover it don't think the default in ir.default is ok with a multi-company set-up | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:42 <cedk> confirm, ir.default is borken for multi-company | ||
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| 2011-03-02 17:43 <cedk> it could set account from wrong company per example | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:43 <yangoon> for 2) ack, it would be better property by company | ||
| 2011-03-02 17:47 <yangoon> afk, bbl | ||
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| 2011-03-02 19:50 <Hydrant> hey all... has anyone heard of "caseware" | ||
| 2011-03-02 19:50 <Hydrant> I'm going to have to be able to export my Tryton data to this format for our corporate accountant | ||
| 2011-03-02 20:02 <Hydrant> it looks like xrbl is the format for this | ||
| 2011-03-02 20:02 <Hydrant> *xbrl | ||
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| 2011-03-02 21:34 <serpent213> is there a list of modules on the web? with descriptions? | ||
| 2011-03-02 21:34 <serpent213> only found http://hg.tryton.org/modules/ ... | ||
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