IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2009-02-03

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2009-02-03 00:07 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 217:a2796a09a6e2 purchase/ (purchase.py purchase.xml): Packing exception: allow to duplicate cancelled moves
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2009-02-03 01:28 <CIA-10> tryton: matb roundup * #767/Typo: [new] s. patch
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2009-02-03 10:33 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 218:19e2d3243cfa purchase/ (purchase.py purchase.xml): Guidelines
2009-02-03 10:33 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 219:e0de5dc39a29 purchase/purchase.py: Fix signature of default_* methods
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2009-02-03 11:04 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 220:917804195007 purchase/purchase.py: Fix default return value in exception_state method
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2009-02-03 11:09 <cristi_an> what app server tryton site has behind ?
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2009-02-03 11:10 <bechamel> cristi_an: it's only static html
2009-02-03 11:10 <cristi_an> k.
2009-02-03 11:10 <cristi_an> so not cms.
2009-02-03 11:10 <cristi_an> thx
2009-02-03 11:13 <bechamel> cristi_an: in a way the cms is hg: http://hg.tryton.org/hgwebdir.cgi/www.tryton.org/
2009-02-03 11:17 <cristi_an> bechamel: :) yes
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2009-02-03 13:22 <cristi_an> in your countries if you transfer products from one location to other location of a firm do you have a special official document that come with products ?
2009-02-03 13:23 <cristi_an> "delivery note " ?
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2009-02-03 13:48 <carlos> cristi_an: are both locations owned by the same firm?
2009-02-03 13:50 <cristi_an> yes
2009-02-03 13:50 <cristi_an> but does it matter ?
2009-02-03 13:50 <cristi_an> you may send product to customers as well and you need some paper if you do not have the invoice
2009-02-03 14:01 <carlos> in Spain we send a paper that is like an invoice, but without prices
2009-02-03 14:01 <carlos> but we usually do it only when we send it to customers
2009-02-03 14:01 <carlos> inside the company, it depends on each company
2009-02-03 14:02 <carlos> but it's not a must
2009-02-03 14:03 <carlos> cristi_an: well, either the paper I told you or an invoice, it depends on the company that sends it
2009-02-03 14:03 <carlos> I got the impresion that in your country your government has such paper as a requirement
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2009-02-03 14:12 <cristi_an> carlos: yes
2009-02-03 14:12 <cristi_an> since if police hold the car
2009-02-03 14:12 <cristi_an> it has to justify the producs
2009-02-03 14:16 <carlos> well, in Spain should be the same, but only for some kind of goods movements, for instance, If I move some computers with my car, I don't need anything to justify it
2009-02-03 14:16 <carlos> I guess if I have 10 or 20 computers, they may ask me for papers
2009-02-03 14:31 <cristi_an> so that paper in your country is part from accounting ,since i dilutes stock valuation in one place (the place from where it's took)
2009-02-03 14:33 <cristi_an> ?
2009-02-03 14:40 <carlos> well, it depends on how do you handle it
2009-02-03 14:40 <carlos> but yes, it's usually integrated with the management software
2009-02-03 14:41 <carlos> what we usually do is to issue an invoice with a set of those papers once per month
2009-02-03 14:42 <carlos> so the customer and you have a paper that says what did you send to him and what did he received and when you send the invoice, they can check whether it's correct or not, based on what you sent to them
2009-02-03 14:43 <carlos> ACTION doesn't know the exact term in English for such paper, but OpenERP / tryton should handle it already
2009-02-03 14:43 <cristi_an> i see
2009-02-03 14:43 <cristi_an> thx
2009-02-03 14:50 <CIA-10> tryton: matb roundup * #768/ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'False': [new] After the recent changes update of fields of parent report is broken: The error occurs only in databases using a module for custom invoice ...
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2009-02-03 18:51 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1338:e44a6ac85d60 trytond/trytond/res/request.xml: Fix tree view of res.request.link
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1511:d279aeb348ba trytond/trytond/res/request.xml: Fix tree view of res.request.link
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1512:a6920d12f943 trytond/trytond/sql_db.py: Use unicode instead of str to format wrong queries
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1513:345eaa4e7b39 trytond/trytond/ (29 files in 7 dirs):
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: Add model.fields
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: Use better naming of field attributes
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 375:0081ae37bde8 account/move.py: Fix typo
2009-02-03 19:03 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 261:a3c3a784ef0b account_invoice/invoice.py: Fix for new field attributes names
2009-02-03 19:04 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 43:bd4f43810f78 project/work.py: Fix for new field attributes names
2009-02-03 19:04 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 114:b07c43bcc8f9 sale/sale.py: Fix for new field attributes names
2009-02-03 19:04 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 476:2c58db78e7ba stock/ (inventory.py packing.py): Fix for new field attributes names
2009-02-03 19:06 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 221:ec99e16a19d7 purchase/purchase.py: Fix for new field attributes names
2009-02-03 19:06 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 222:65d8054bc117 purchase/purchase.py: merge
2009-02-03 19:07 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #768/ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'False': [chatting] Fix in changeset 345eaa4e7b39
2009-02-03 19:08 <CIA-10> tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 1514:c85353e43333 trytond/trytond/ir/attachment.py: Typo
2009-02-03 19:08 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #767/Typo: [resolved] Applied
2009-02-03 19:19 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1174:820017c01eb2 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/view/form_gtk/image.py: Handle readonly on image widget
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2009-02-03 20:46 <cristi_an> is the server down !!!
2009-02-03 20:46 <cristi_an> ?
2009-02-03 20:47 <cristi_an> the demo one ?
2009-02-03 20:48 <bechamel> the website seems to be down too
2009-02-03 20:48 <cristi_an> website ?
2009-02-03 20:48 <cristi_an> is up
2009-02-03 20:48 <bechamel> no sorry it's ok now
2009-02-03 20:48 <cristi_an> the demo server is down
2009-02-03 20:48 <bechamel> yes
2009-02-03 20:49 <cristi_an> :(
2009-02-03 20:49 <bechamel> cedk: ping
2009-02-03 20:49 <cristi_an> i just gave the link to some potential "customer" :)
2009-02-03 20:50 <cristi_an> he told me ...is not working...
2009-02-03 20:50 <cristi_an> however he will try this later..
2009-02-03 20:50 <cristi_an> tommorow or even on my server if it will nto start
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2009-02-03 20:54 <snowch> hi irc
2009-02-03 20:59 <vengfulsquirrel> snowch: hello
2009-02-03 20:59 <cristi_an> hi snowch
2009-02-03 20:59 <udono> hi snowch
2009-02-03 21:03 <snowch> I have a bit of time on my hands tonight, so I thought I'd catch up with tryton. Anyone know what is happening with the refactoring?
2009-02-03 21:04 <bechamel> snowch: you talk about the current refactoring ?
2009-02-03 21:07 <snowch> yes, I was just looking at the code again and seeing lots of cyclic dependencies like: osv -{depends} -> orm -{depends}-> cache -{depends}-> osv
2009-02-03 21:10 <bechamel> snowch: osv and orm are gonna be deleted in favor of model, modeldb, modelstorage, modelview, etc
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2009-02-03 21:12 <bechamel> this will provide a more clean code and a more flexible kernel, but cyclic dependies cannot be avoided
2009-02-03 21:15 <bechamel> snowch: more info http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/browse_thread/thread/49af894ff4bb624f/8e99e93f302f98f8
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2009-02-03 21:16 <snowch> bechamel: thanks for the link - i'll check it out...
2009-02-03 21:19 <snowch> bechamel: that looks much cleaner.
2009-02-03 21:21 <bechamel> snowch: you can see the result in the trunk repo
2009-02-03 21:23 <vengfulsquirrel> Is there a way to search for ids in a many 2 many ? For example if a product has a many2many relationship with features how could I find a product with features X, Y and Z? I'd like to just join over and over(as many times as there are features to check for -1 ) on the many 2 many relationship table.
2009-02-03 21:31 <snowch> bechamel: one of the things I am struggling with is that loads of classes get packed into one file. then it's difficult to identify which classes are using which imports without reading the whole file. for example in netsvc, would there be any benefit in pulling SERVICE and LOCALSERVICE into a separate file (I know there is some data that is shared _SERVICE[], etc)? SERVICE and LOCALSERVICE are used by many other files in the code base and keeping them in
2009-02-03 21:33 <bechamel> vengfulsquirrel: it's not possible to launch a query on the m2m table (but ced think about somthing to improve this), what you can do is to loop on the product feature and do the test in python (which is ok if there are not too much features for a product). Or write an sql query but it's less clean
2009-02-03 21:35 <snowch> bechamel: SERVICE and LOCALSERVICE are really there to build the list of services? If so, could they be pulled into a separate file, e.g. ServiceList and separated from the communication protocol related stuff?
2009-02-03 21:35 <bechamel> snowch: services are excessively complicated atm, the current refactoring will also improve it
2009-02-03 21:36 <bechamel> snowch: and yes services will be separated from protocol
2009-02-03 21:36 <snowch> bechamel: that's good to hear!
2009-02-03 21:38 <snowch> bechamel: is the refactoring big bang or piecemeal? i.e. if I check out refactored code, will it work?
2009-02-03 21:38 <bechamel> snowch: it appears clearly in the link i gave you, the only thing that is missin is some code that factorise common task for all protocols
2009-02-03 21:39 <bechamel> snowch: piecemeal, the current code is working, orm is now empty but refer to new modelXX stuff, like that modules are still working, the idea is that you can checkout at any time and have a working code
2009-02-03 21:40 <bechamel> snowch: but of course bugs may arise more frequently
2009-02-03 21:40 <snowch> bechamel: no problem.
2009-02-03 21:44 <bechamel> snowch: after refactoring the only ugly code will be workflow stuff :)
2009-02-03 21:50 <snowch> bechamel: why?
2009-02-03 21:52 <bechamel> snowch: it's not yet planned, and there are other important stuff to do
2009-02-03 21:54 <bechamel> snowch: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/Release_1_2_0
2009-02-03 21:56 <snowch> bechamel: does "hg clone http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/" grab the latest code?
2009-02-03 21:57 <bechamel> snowch: yes
2009-02-03 21:57 <snowch> bechamel: many thanks again!
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2009-02-03 22:11 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1339:6c7af69ea903 trytond/trytond/sql_db.py: Use unicode instead of str to format wrong queries
2009-02-03 22:11 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1340:4bcca56c96d2 trytond/trytond/ir/translation.py: Force __init__ of Cacheable
2009-02-03 22:14 <cedk> bechamel: the demo server is working again
2009-02-03 22:15 <cedk> there was a bad transplant that prevent the server to start
2009-02-03 22:15 <bechamel> cedk: ok
2009-02-03 22:20 <cedk> bechamel: http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=311432&group_id=30402&atid=411646
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2009-02-03 23:09 <udono> I've installed songbird
2009-02-03 23:09 <udono> very interesting use of mozilla
2009-02-03 23:11 <udono> They combine the full XUL Widgets and browser in one Window
2009-02-03 23:11 <udono> for Linux, Windows and mac-OS
2009-02-03 23:16 <bechamel> udono: I tried it some times ago but it was a bit slow (and btw moc: http://moc.daper.net/node/374 is good enough for me)
2009-02-03 23:16 <bechamel> udono: you plan to create a new client for tryton ? ;)
2009-02-03 23:23 <udono> bechamel: :-)
2009-02-03 23:23 <udono> just FYI
2009-02-03 23:24 <bechamel> udono: is songbird fast enough for you ? maybe you use another player with lots of features
2009-02-03 23:25 <udono> Its quite fast
2009-02-03 23:26 <udono> bechamel: I have 10237 'Objects' and its quite fast in sorting and filtering ( <1 sec)
2009-02-03 23:28 <bechamel> udono: sqlite makes wonders :)
2009-02-03 23:29 <udono> I think so
2009-02-03 23:30 <udono> But they have a browser included...
2009-02-03 23:30 <udono> and win, linux and mac os x
2009-02-03 23:31 <udono> but its more technology than we have.
2009-02-03 23:35 <bechamel> udono: and we don't need a browse in the client :)
2009-02-03 23:38 <udono> bechamel: its not only browsing it is showing html, pdf, more picture types then gtk... all showing inline.
2009-02-03 23:39 <udono> bechamel: btw. I use moc on another machine. Its a good console player
2009-02-03 23:39 <bechamel> :)
2009-02-03 23:40 <cedk> udono: generaly I prefer one application that makes well one thing
2009-02-03 23:40 <cedk> udono: instead of one that makes every things
2009-02-03 23:41 <udono> for me its just showing content on different OS
2009-02-03 23:42 <udono> there are even pythonbindings for xul
2009-02-03 23:42 <udono> http://nufox.berlios.de/
2009-02-03 23:44 <cedk> udono: it is better to show content with the user prefered application
2009-02-03 23:45 <udono> cedk: yes, and its more easy to handle.
2009-02-03 23:45 <udono> cedk: As I told FYI

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