IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2009-02-02

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2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1508:dfa3b49d1209 trytond/trytond/web_service/db.py: Use template0 when restoring database
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1509:102e1348acb0 trytond/trytond/tools/convert.py: Remove unused import
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1510:b07795fac9a7 trytond/trytond/ (21 files in 9 dirs): Add modelstorage and modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 374:a0c1b92f0d47 account/ (account.py journal.py move.py tax.py): Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 260:c4743cf2265f account_invoice/ (invoice.py payment_term.py): Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 58:96116eede04a analytic_account/account.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 39:c3676e3463cd analytic_invoice/invoice.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 40:560c972316a2 analytic_purchase/purchase.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #766/Exception: ('Argument must be string or unicode.', 'Traceback (most recent call last):\n File "/trytond/netsvc.py", line 282, i...: [resolved] Fix with changeset 53270480858f
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 32:0aa8ae67fa9a analytic_sale/sale.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 127:cbde71ecbb87 product/uom.py: Fix for new modelstorage
2009-02-02 13:14 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 216:1bfc452d3eaf purchase/purchase.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:15 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 113:d03be09667ba sale/sale.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:15 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 474:53270480858f stock/ (location.py product.py): Fix for new view_header_get must return string for issue766
2009-02-02 13:15 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 475:970cf34ca7b1 stock/packing.py: Fix for new modeldb
2009-02-02 13:15 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 61:23b942619d75 timesheet/line.py: Fix for new view_header_get must return string
2009-02-02 13:21 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1173:9b9390ec9d0c tryton/tryton/gui/window/win_import.py: Improve memory used of import csv by removing StringIO
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2009-02-02 13:28 <BleSS> I've seen a demo about how can be customized an openerp project
2009-02-02 13:28 <BleSS> I'm supposed that can be made the same with tryton, doesn't?
2009-02-02 13:34 <cedk> BleSS: globally, yes but there is some differences
2009-02-02 13:36 <BleSS> does OpenObject framework is also used by tryton?
2009-02-02 13:38 <BleSS> I was reading about differences between openerp and tryton, there are changes important and interesting overall related to conection/network
2009-02-02 13:39 <carlos> BleSS: as far as I know, OpenObject is an abstraction of the TinyERP/Tryton infrastructure so we may say that Tryton uses a modified version of OpenObject framework
2009-02-02 13:40 <carlos> well, is more correct to say that OpenObject is a modificed version of the original TinyERP/Tryton infrastructure
2009-02-02 13:44 <BleSS> I question myself if those changes could not be sent to openerp, and avoid a fragmentation. (I mean to have a community greater)
2009-02-02 13:45 <cedk> BleSS: we try it but it was not possible
2009-02-02 13:45 <carlos> BleSS: well, Tryton is a fork of TinyERP with a lot of rewrites not small changes
2009-02-02 13:46 <carlos> and then, TinyERP guys evolved their system to OpenObject
2009-02-02 13:48 <BleSS> well, I need create/customize a little application (erm) abount accounts, reporting, etc
2009-02-02 13:48 <BleSS> I want to know if is posstible also intryton
2009-02-02 13:48 <cedk> BleSS: yes, it is possible to customize it
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2009-02-02 13:49 <BleSS> well, then I'm going to startin by the developer manual, thanks
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2009-02-02 14:11 <carlos> Timitos: Hi, seems like the chart of accounts is working now. I moved all root types to a common parent as you suggested and seems like it works now (not sure whether that was the required fix or just a mix of different changes I did...)
2009-02-02 14:11 <carlos> Timitos: but anyway, it works now :-P
2009-02-02 14:12 <Timitos> carlos: great
2009-02-02 14:12 <carlos> I'm now with the taxes part and it should be functional
2009-02-02 14:12 <carlos> Timitos: however, I have a doubt about the way I wrote the chart of accounts
2009-02-02 14:13 <carlos> Timitos: I have two chart of accounts, the regular one and a simplified version
2009-02-02 14:14 <Timitos> carlos: Did you put them into one module? Is this needed? Perhaps it would be better to create two modules?
2009-02-02 14:14 <carlos> the accounts are the same, but the simplified version have reports simplified, and thus, some account types are different from the regular one
2009-02-02 14:15 <carlos> Timitos: well, you should use one or the other depending on your past year incomes and number of employees
2009-02-02 14:16 <carlos> so I was thinking on adding a wizard to switch from one to the other
2009-02-02 14:16 <carlos> and in Tryton you get different chart of accounts templates, so you choose the one you want to use, instead of having to look for all modules before you decide which one to use
2009-02-02 14:18 <Timitos> carlos: hm. this is indeed a special feature for spain. in germany you should always keep the same chart if it is possible
2009-02-02 14:21 <carlos> well, you cannot change it in the same year
2009-02-02 14:22 <carlos> but I think it may be useful if you do a mistake and start with the wrong one
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2009-02-02 14:22 <carlos> given that the account numbers and usage is the same, and the only difference are the reports
2009-02-02 14:23 <Timitos> carlos: yes. as only the reports are different there should be not so much to do.
2009-02-02 14:24 <carlos> but I need both chart of accounts, right? there is no other easy way to do it in Tryton, isn't it?
2009-02-02 14:25 <carlos> Timitos: also, I was thinking on adding another chart of accounts template for individuals that are their own company in the same module. Why do you think is better to split it?
2009-02-02 14:25 <Timitos> carlos: i haven´t thought about that yet.
2009-02-02 14:25 <carlos> ok
2009-02-02 14:25 <carlos> I have it done anyway, so I could migrate it later if we find a good way to do it
2009-02-02 14:26 <Timitos> carlos: for me i would prefer to split it into more modules. so i only have those accounts and account.types i really need.
2009-02-02 14:27 <carlos> aren't those just templates until you create a chart of accounts for a company?
2009-02-02 14:28 <Timitos> carlos: but are you able to select these charts by your needs? i haven´t tried that yet. perhaps your way will work too.
2009-02-02 14:29 <carlos> Timitos: what I get right now is the same as having two different modules that provide a chart of accounts
2009-02-02 14:29 <carlos> I get the basic chart of accounts that comes with Tryton by default
2009-02-02 14:30 <carlos> + the German one (I activated it)
2009-02-02 14:30 <carlos> + both chart of accounts that my module provides
2009-02-02 14:30 <carlos> the only problem I had having both chart of accounts in the same module is that I had to use different IDs for the xml entries
2009-02-02 14:31 <carlos> ACTION is using two different .xml files, one for each chart of accounts
2009-02-02 14:39 <Timitos> ACTION is testing carlos account chart and has now a freezing client.....
2009-02-02 14:40 <carlos> Timitos: I tested it with 1.0 series and it takes a while, but it never froze my client
2009-02-02 14:41 <Timitos> carlos: i will try again
2009-02-02 14:53 <carlos> ACTION -> out
2009-02-02 14:53 <carlos> see you later
2009-02-02 14:57 <Timitos> carlos: cu
2009-02-02 15:21 <carlos> back
2009-02-02 15:51 <carlos> Timitos: were you able to load my module or is it still causing problems?
2009-02-02 15:51 <Timitos> carlos: it worked now.
2009-02-02 15:51 <carlos> ok
2009-02-02 15:51 <Timitos> carlos: it takes really much time.
2009-02-02 15:52 <carlos> I guess that's because it's huge
2009-02-02 15:52 <carlos> two 'big' chart of accounts...
2009-02-02 15:52 <Timitos> it seems to be really huge. and i thought my one is already huge :-)
2009-02-02 15:53 <carlos> It may be an argument to split it
2009-02-02 15:53 <carlos> or maybe to improve the parser/importer performance :-P
2009-02-02 15:53 <carlos> yeah, yours is also big
2009-02-02 15:54 <carlos> in fact, yours is bigger than the ones from Spain
2009-02-02 15:55 <Timitos> carlos: but mine does not take so much time. but i think this is because of your two charts in one module
2009-02-02 15:56 <carlos> 449K vs 349K + 360K
2009-02-02 15:56 <carlos> ACTION is talking about file size
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2009-02-02 17:15 <cedk> carlos: I don't think it is the xml parser fault
2009-02-02 17:15 <cedk> I think it is the insert into the database that is slow
2009-02-02 17:15 <carlos> cedk: I was just joking
2009-02-02 17:16 <carlos> I'm sure it's the database insert, it's a lot of information
2009-02-02 17:16 <udono> carlos: how many records you try to insert?
2009-02-02 17:17 <carlos> udono: it's a chart of accounts
2009-02-02 17:17 <carlos> actually, two of them
2009-02-02 17:17 <cedk> the main issue, I think it is that we create on INSERT per record
2009-02-02 17:18 <bechamel> updating indexes and one by one insert are costly but i don't see a way to improve that
2009-02-02 17:18 <cedk> in psycopg, there is the possiblity to make multiquery in one request
2009-02-02 17:18 <bechamel> cedk: the problem is when there are reference for id that are in the same file
2009-02-02 17:19 <carlos> the total number of <record> tags are 2084 in total (both chart of accounts)
2009-02-02 17:19 <cedk> bechamel: to have multiqueries, we must create a new xml syntax
2009-02-02 17:19 <carlos> and that's without the tax information
2009-02-02 17:20 <carlos> cedk: I'm wondering, why are we using 'parent' references instead of nested tags?
2009-02-02 17:22 <carlos> I'm not sure whether that's going to improve the performance, but at least nested tags seems more correct when using XML, don't you think so?
2009-02-02 17:22 <cedk> carlos: no, because you can have many trees in one model
2009-02-02 17:24 <bechamel> carlos, cedk and above all the xml reflect the db, parent is just a foreign key
2009-02-02 17:25 <carlos> you said it, trees, without loops, right?, so that shouldn't be a problem...
2009-02-02 17:25 <carlos> bechamel: so the XML is more an exported SQL table using XML instead of SQL
2009-02-02 17:26 <bechamel> carlos: xml is a ready-to-be-imported-in-the-db file :)
2009-02-02 17:27 <carlos> I guess the performance of the python code that process such xml file is better as it's right now than if it needs to map the nested tags to foreign keys
2009-02-02 17:27 <cedk> carlos: we can have trees with loop
2009-02-02 17:29 <carlos> cedk: really? in that case there is no way to use nested tags. I didn't get any loop in my chart of accounts neither I was able to image its utility, so I assumed there aren't such loops
2009-02-02 17:29 <udono> We are using XML only for inserting data out of modules and via XMLrpc. For me it is not a problem, that it takes some time...
2009-02-02 17:31 <carlos> udono: well, as I said, I was joking about improving its performance, given that the speed problem that Timitos got is easily fixable using different modules for different chart of accounts
2009-02-02 17:33 <cedk> carlos: loop in account charts is forbidden but for other models it can be allowed
2009-02-02 17:33 <carlos> ok
2009-02-02 17:37 <cedk> carlos: by the way, we use a sax parser which has better performance on big file
2009-02-02 17:39 <carlos> do you think the speed may change if I merge both xml files in a single one?
2009-02-02 17:40 <cedk> carlos: no, I don't think it will be visible
2009-02-02 17:40 <carlos> ok
2009-02-02 17:40 <cedk> carlos: but I think like timitos, that it will be better to have two modules
2009-02-02 17:41 <carlos> yeah, that's what I'm going to do
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2009-02-02 18:31 <cedk> carlos: and by the way, the installation of a module is all in one transaction, so that can also slowdown the import process if there is a lot of data
2009-02-02 18:32 <carlos> indeed
2009-02-02 18:32 <Timitos> this is an important notice. yes
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2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1328:3b386601061b trytond/trytond/ir/model.py: Restart cache on fields_view_get after model access change
2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1329:201f5660bc9a trytond/trytond/osv/orm.py: Add missing fuzzy test in _where_calc and _order_calc for issue697
2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 1330:4a3b8eac3a13 trytond/trytond/tools/convert.py:
2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: xml import: Fetch the correct default value when a field belongs to
2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: the parent model of the record.
2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1331:3f717d2af4a8 trytond/trytond/tools/convert.py: Use default value from base model before of inherit model for xml import
2009-02-02 19:47 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1332:54e82a5ef3e0 trytond/trytond/res/user.py: Reset cache for check and fields_view_get when writing res.user
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1333:3c307125cf73 trytond/trytond/osv/orm.py: Disable by default sort on One2Many fields
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1334:72e1824a61bf trytond/trytond/osv/orm.py:
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: Fix Modified Preorder Tree Traversal
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: - _update_tree works if only one record has changed
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: - can not use child_number in update but instead old_right - old_left
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: - set old_left if the same than old_right
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: - pre-select ids before update to prevent collision
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1335:d27fd05245e9 trytond/trytond/osv/orm.py: Don't loop on id in delete for _update_tree because _rebuild_tree will be called many times.
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1336:8c24e50b35ab trytond/trytond/ (ir/translation.py osv/osv.py): Fix Cacheable to prevent attributes collision
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1337:fc66b065fe66 trytond/trytond/web_service/db.py: Use template0 when restoring database
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 206:c890bd635857 account_invoice/invoice.py: If amount_to_pay_today is zero used amount_to_pay in pay invoice wizard
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 207:04fd17846df0 account_invoice/CHANGELOG: Add changelog
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 396:fd1c6a67a106 stock/packing.py: Missing context in assign_force of internal packing
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 397:e0aebda37086 stock/move.py: Set effective_date also for assigned moves
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 398:96d4068b9809 stock/packing.py: Fix warehouse default value: use list instead of string for domain.
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 399:f847ec3157f8 stock/packing.py: Fix on_change: clean location and address when custome/supplier is unset.
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 400:881e02314ff6 stock/packing.py: Fix: use sequence on inventory packing creation.
2009-02-02 19:48 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1075:29471f54e330 tryton/tryton/gui/window/ (win_export.py win_import.py): Use None instead of False when calling fields_get for import/export for issue759
2009-02-02 19:49 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1076:de86ed7470a2 tryton/tryton/gui/main.py: Add logout before backup database for issue763
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2009-02-02 21:15 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: ping
2009-02-02 21:15 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Hey
2009-02-02 21:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I checked your patches
2009-02-02 21:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: for check_type_for_moves
2009-02-02 21:16 <cedk> in the search call, you set double [[]]
2009-02-02 21:17 <cedk> this is not needed, one [] is enough
2009-02-02 21:17 <cedk> and no need to set context=None in the call
2009-02-02 21:18 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm yeah but double [[]] is still okay right its just not the best?
2009-02-02 21:19 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it will be slower
2009-02-02 21:19 <cedk> and generate uggly SQL
2009-02-02 21:19 <vengfulsquirrel> Okay noted
2009-02-02 21:20 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: if you fix those two remarks, you can generate the patch files for inclusion
2009-02-02 21:20 <vengfulsquirrel> For the context=None, I read the coding guidelines and it said "Calling method with default values must explicitly use keywords arguments."
2009-02-02 21:21 <vengfulsquirrel> Ha I think maybe I read too much into that, what is the context for ?
2009-02-02 21:21 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: when you have values but here you don't have any
2009-02-02 21:22 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: context is for contextual value, this can be used for many things like language, timestamp check, etc.
2009-02-02 21:23 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: so what we want to say by explicit call, it is that when you have a value for an args that is default, you must use "="
2009-02-02 21:23 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: because like that we can change the argument order without any problems
2009-02-02 21:23 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: when you have the two patches, you can assign to me the issue
2009-02-02 21:24 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: and ping me
2009-02-02 21:28 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Okay thanks, I think you meant "Never pass keyword arguments as positional arguments."
2009-02-02 21:33 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: yes
2009-02-02 21:33 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: you can update the wiki
2009-02-02 21:33 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: if you have better english sentence
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