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| cedk | I will not review, nor release anything until https://bugs.tryton.org/issue10406 is fixed | 08:46 |
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| mrichez | cedk: you just launch this command ( ./trytond/trytond/tests/run-tests.py) to tests all modules ? Got no error | 09:25 |
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| cedk | pokoli: for me if you want to have plural for the company main menu entry it must be changed in English first | 10:18 |
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| pokoli | cedk: Indeed I want to have the same menu for Parent and Children, to avoid having Company / Companies in action name | 11:00 |
| pokoli | cedk: The same as we have in product and parties | 11:00 |
| cedk | pokoli: I understand but it is wrong to solve that with translations | 11:03 |
| cedk | I already had to fight against such practice on the German translation in the past | 11:07 |
| cedk | it is not fair to solve naming issue only for a specific language | 11:07 |
| pokoli | cedk: sincerly, we have some issues with translations in Spanish/Catalan where we already have specific strings that I try to fix. And I thought this was the case | 11:10 |
| cedk | mrichez: it must be run with empty db cache | 11:15 |
| pokoli | cedk: Indeed the problem is our translation, where the Party and Product form uses the plural translation | 11:26 |
| pokoli | while the English one uses the plural | 11:27 |
| pokoli | Is there any reason to use the Singular for the main menu and the plural for the action one? | 11:27 |
| cedk | pokoli: initially it was because the main menu is a name for the concept | 11:30 |
| cedk | but now with the tab name simplification, I think it makes sense for main menu which are directly named after the main document to use plural like for Sales and Purchases | 11:31 |
| Timitos | we also use the plural for parties, companies and products. it seems more natural for our users | 11:31 |
| cedk | or to have a more generic name | 11:32 |
| cedk | ACTION sad that people change the translation instead of fixing the origin | 11:32 |
| pokoli | cedk: IIRC this was already mentioned earlier (maybe 2012 or so) by nantic and zikzakmedia and it was refused for some reason that I not remember | 11:33 |
| pokoli | probably because the reason you mentionend above | 11:33 |
| pokoli | So it was localized in a diferent way | 11:33 |
| pokoli | I did not remember the details because I did not took care of the translations those years | 11:34 |
| Timitos | i have some english strings on my todo list. i will work on them for the next release | 11:34 |
| cedk | pokoli: This is my complaint that people "fix" in translation. This is wrong (and make me loose trust in translators) | 11:36 |
| pokoli | I created: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue10416 | 11:39 |
| pokoli | cedk: well at least we have a clear path now | 11:39 |
| Timitos | it may be wrong but when you notice a bad english string while translating it during the development freeze it is to late get it fixed for the next release | 11:40 |
| Timitos | i know that this is not valid for the plural usage for parties and so on. but this is something that has been done a long time ago and i know that there was already a discussion about these plural a long time ago where we did not reach an agreement | 11:42 |
| cedk | Timitos: that's false excuses, at least a bug report could be filled (and depending on the problem we may make small updates) | 11:50 |
| Timitos | ok. i will do that for the future | 11:51 |
| Timitos | i planned to focus on the english terms anyway | 11:51 |
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| pokoli | It's clear that we need more forces to fix everything | 12:11 |
| pokoli | ACTION overhelmed with so much forum and bug tracker replies | 12:14 |
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| cedk | ACTION too much takers vs contributors | 12:32 |
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