chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Nov 24 12:00:01 AM CET 2020 | ||
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fabix | hello ; is there a sample web project which uses flask_tryton and web_user for authentication ? I can't find one... | 07:51 |
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pokoli | fabix: I'm not sure if there is any public but we have some projects using both | 07:59 |
pokoli | fabix: here is some code snippet from one of our projects https://pastebin.com/X3Zed22Z | 08:00 |
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fabix | pokoli: thank you, it's a good start. | 08:12 |
fabix | it's difficult to start with tryton ; I'm sure it's a good plateform but there is not enough documentation and examples for beginners | 08:14 |
fabix | and some parts are outdated | 08:14 |
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cedk | fabix: if you know some outdated official documentation, pleas submit a bug on https://bugs.tryton.org/ | 08:31 |
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pokoli | fabix: we know and we are working to improve our documentation for the next releases | 09:27 |
pokoli | fabix: but we have a helpfull community so if you ask your doubts here or in the discuss forum you will probably get some good replies | 09:28 |
pokoli | fabix: You can improve it by writing some howto on the forum about the flask_tryton and web_user autentication | 09:28 |
fabix | pokoli: I know but it's very frustrating to not be able to start a little project without asking help | 10:38 |
fabix | pokoli: your sample code is very usefull for me ; I think other people would have liked to have it to start | 10:44 |
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pokoli | fabix: feel free to share it on the forum if you think this is valuable for others :) | 11:20 |
fabix | I'm not a real developer and a small complete project can't be put on a forum ; it should be in a documentation | 11:40 |
pokoli | fabix: the issue here is that you are using two separate components that are not directly related | 11:58 |
pokoli | fabix: I think this should be included as part of a how-to topic on the forum | 11:59 |
cedk | flask-tryton not being a Tryton project, I do not think it must be documented by tryton.org | 12:01 |
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fabix | maybe on flask-tryton project ? | 12:40 |
Pilou | There should be a better place than a pastebin :) | 12:55 |
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fabix | where are documented modules methods on the web ? for example, for web_user, I only find the list by instantiating the class and by doing help(WebUser) | 13:27 |
fabix | I thought the API section shows that, but not, https://docs.tryton.org/projects/modules-web-user/en/latest/ is very short and doesn't show what can be done | 13:29 |
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cedk | fabix: code is documented in the code | 15:18 |
fabix | cedk: yes, but a lot of projects build automatically a html documentation by extracting that from the code | 15:22 |
cedk | fabix: we do not but we do not use that | 15:24 |
cedk | the code is the best documentation and it is always accurate | 15:24 |
fabix | I agree but when you want what a module can do, it's easier to read the methods on a web page instead of installing it, instantiating it, etc. | 15:26 |
cedk | we spend our free-time on what is useful for us | 15:30 |
fabix | yes, I imagine that, but I think it prevents some developers to adopt the platform | 15:38 |
cedk | fabix: but who cares? We do Tryton for us not for potential others | 15:41 |
fabix | ok ; so it's open source because it was initialy a fork of another GPLv2 project ? | 15:47 |
cedk | fabix: I do not understand your reasoning | 15:50 |
fabix | c'est trop dur l'anglais pour moi... en général, on met un projet en open source pour qu'il soit utilisé par d'autres, sinon on le garde propriétaire | 15:54 |
cedk | fabix: so join #tryton-fr | 15:59 |
pokoli | fabix: I do not understand you last sentence in English | 16:07 |
pokoli | fabix: but open source is more about giving that asking others for doing thinks for you | 16:07 |
pokoli | fabix: I will like to have everything documented but we must invest our time on doing what is more usefull for the project | 16:08 |
pokoli | fabix: I prefer to have a new feature that it's usefull for our users than documenting something for developers | 16:09 |
fabix | yes, you're right | 16:09 |
fabix | "our users" is "our clients" ? | 16:09 |
pokoli | fabix: But it will be great if others can spend some time creating tutorials while we keep adding new features ) | 16:10 |
pokoli | fabix: both of them | 16:10 |
nicoe | fabix: no "our users" == people using Tryton, but we rather spend our time writing code than documentation | 16:11 |
pokoli | Yes, people using Tryton is better described, thanks nicoe :) | 16:11 |
fabix | I imagine most users are using the Tryton client | 16:13 |
pokoli | fabix: we do not have data, but we have some customers that does not use the Tryton client, only the web client | 16:13 |
pokoli | Indeed, most of our customers use sao | 16:14 |
pokoli | fabix: if you want to really work on documentation there is the Seasson of Docs topic with nices ideas: https://discuss.tryton.org/t/trytons-2020-google-season-of-docs/2614 | 16:15 |
pokoli | Unfortunatly we only get one person to work on them, so we are currently working on the End User documentation for basic modules | 16:16 |
pokoli | but if somebody is interested on working on some of the topics, I will find some time for mentoring | 16:16 |
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