| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Wed Jan 17 00:00:01 CET 2018 | ||
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| 2018-01-17 13:27 <LordVan> Hi. quick question: is the stock module intended to be used for articles "only" or is it also likely to be useful for other materials and management of an inventory of those (in our case metal sheets which are rarely ever sold as a whole) | ||
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| 2018-01-17 13:43 <pokoli> LordVan: you can use any type of material as far as you create a product for it | ||
| 2018-01-17 13:43 <pokoli> LordVan: for example you can manage the stock on non sallable products | ||
| 2018-01-17 13:43 <LordVan> ok not really what i was looking for i think | ||
| 2018-01-17 13:44 <LordVan> since we are talking about a lot of different sizes and materials | ||
| 2018-01-17 13:44 <LordVan> and most probably one-off and short lived | ||
| 2018-01-17 13:48 <LordVan> cna't be cluttering up the articles with that much stuff | ||
| 2018-01-17 13:48 <LordVan> that needs to be separate | ||
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| 2018-01-17 13:53 <LordVan> just for curiousity: how easy would it be to create a "clone" of stock that doesn't use articles/variants, but something else completely? | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:08 <pokoli> LordVan: not sure to understand what kind of material you want to track | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:08 <LordVan> metal sheets mostly | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:08 <LordVan> different sizes (and maybe shapes) , .. | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:09 <pokoli> LordVan: Not sure if using the size as unit of measure will be ok for your side | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:09 <LordVan> well maybe ^^ | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:09 <Timitos> LordVan: maybe you could do it with stock_lot. you could define the correct measurements of the part on the lot | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:10 <LordVan> hm | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:10 <LordVan> i shall have a look | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:10 <pokoli> LordVan: the question is: once you have separated shapes of diferent sizes, you can join them? | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:10 <LordVan> well 90% would be rectangular | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:10 <LordVan> just a few might be L-shaped or sth | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:11 <LordVan> but that could be just like a tickbox for "( ) not rectangle" and then add a comment - or maybe a pic | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:11 <pokoli> LordVan: if you want to get the measure of every shape, you should use the lot and add the size on it. | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:11 <LordVan> but i need to be able to filter by location, type of material, thickness, .. - but also would want some sort of spreatsheet type bulk- import/edit | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:11 <LordVan> hm | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:12 <pokoli> LordVan: and when moving one shape you must say which lot is (so the system knows the concrete shape you are moving) | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:12 <LordVan> hmm | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:13 <LordVan> seems probably a bit too complicated | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:13 <pokoli> LordVan: the complexity is proportional to the level of detail you want to store on tryton | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:14 <LordVan> yes which is why i was thinking just a marker for "not rectangular"/"partly damaged" to indicate that one needs tor ead comments or look @ an attached pic | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:14 <LordVan> would be enough | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:14 <pokoli> LordVan: if you use one lot for each shape, you can add pics as attachments to the lot | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:15 <LordVan> hmm | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:18 <LordVan> i shall install that .. one question though: i still need to set up articles? | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:19 <Timitos> yes, but you can use one product for a group of similar parts | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:20 <LordVan> ah | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:20 <pokoli> LordVan: for example you can use an article for each type of material | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:21 <LordVan> like create one article for "Metal Sheets" and then variants for the different types of material and lots with that? | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:24 <Timitos> you got it. but maybe you should create more than one product.template. i am not sure if you should use the variant thing | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:25 <LordVan> Timitos, not sure about that either (yet) just installed that module too ^^ | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:25 <LordVan> took me a minute to figure out what it was called in the german UI ^^ | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:25 <Timitos> i am always open to improve the german translation. lets discuss that on #tryton.de | ||
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| 2018-01-17 14:26 <pokoli> LordVan: For example, you can use diferent variants if the Metal Sheet have diferent densities and you need to know the quantity of each density | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:26 <pokoli> LordVan: otherwise one variant per template is enought | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:27 <LordVan> pokoli, well more different quality that matters (steel, stainless steel, .. ) ;) | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:27 <LordVan> just not sure if there are any advantages to having one article + variants or more articles with 1 variant each | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:30 <Timitos> most of the product fields are on the template. so if there is a difference in this fields you will need to create more than one template and i think it will be like that | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:36 <LordVan> all sheet metal have the same fields and/or attributes so that would be ok | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:38 <pokoli> LordVan: indeed with product_attribute modules, you can define on the template a set of fields, and define on each variant the value of this fields | ||
| 2018-01-17 14:38 <LordVan> pokoli, that is how i was planning to enter our products ;) | ||
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| 2018-01-17 15:06 <mrichez> hi, what is the best way to change a field not displayed on the client when another displayed field is updated ? | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:08 <mrichez> supersede write method ? | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:15 <cedk> mrichez: should it not be a Function field then | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:16 <mrichez> cedk: indeed :-) | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:24 <mrichez> cedk: and no... this field is updated by a cron... | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:26 <pokoli> mrichez: If one field directly depends on the value of another it's better to make it a function field. So it's always updated | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:26 <pokoli> mrichez: otherwise, you can override write and create to recompute the value | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:27 <pokoli> mrichez: here you have an example: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/timesheet_cost/file/fa5c7961c6f8/timesheet.py#l56 | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:27 <mrichez> pokoli: indeed but this field is also updated by another condition linked to product quantity (so a function field on product quantity is not a good solution) | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:28 <cedk> there is the case of pre-formatted data like http://hg.tryton.org/modules/party/file/default/contact_mechanism.py#l221 | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:28 <cedk> mrichez: but you can compute it using also this condition | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:30 <pokoli> mrichez: computing product quantity is quite optimized If you are worried about performance | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:31 <mrichez> cedk: indeed but i'll display view with this field, it will compute stock quantities for all products (and 'im computing quantities for the whole warehouse) | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:32 <mrichez> cedk: i will try both solutions... function field | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:33 <mrichez> pokoli: and override write | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:33 <pokoli> mrichez: personally I will go with a function that accepts a list of records first :) | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:33 <mrichez> thanks for help! | ||
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| 2018-01-17 15:35 <mrichez> pokoli: what do you mean | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:35 <mrichez> ? | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:36 <pokoli> mrichez: the classmethod explained in the docs: http://doc.tryton.org/4.6/trytond/doc/ref/models/fields.html?highlight=function#function | ||
| 2018-01-17 15:37 <mrichez> pokoli: ok thanks | ||
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| 2018-01-17 16:14 <LordVan> ACTION reads http://tryton-documentation.readthedocs.io/en/latest/developer_guide/example_library_1.html | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:14 <LordVan> ;) | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:14 <LordVan> interesting | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:15 <pokoli> LordVan: just note that this guide is a little bit outdated | ||
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| 2018-01-17 16:15 <pokoli> LordVan: it's for 3.2 series which are deprecated | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:15 <LordVan> ah | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:16 <LordVan> it said latest so i was hoping it was up2date | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:16 <LordVan> is the example there still going to work? or is there anything i need to look out for? | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:18 <pokoli> LordVan: it's going to work if you remove the string attribute from view's xmls | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:18 <pokoli> LordVan: it's a pitty because nobody is maintaining this guide | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:19 <LordVan> ok i haven't gotten that far down yet, but i will try to remmeber for testing | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:19 <LordVan> ah too bad | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:19 <pokoli> LordVan: If you want to follow my workshop it's updated for 4.4 | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:19 <LordVan> but if that is the only thing maybe put a note in there above it just saying that for version > whichever version it is one needs to omit that attribute | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:19 <pokoli> LordVan: https://bitbucket.org/pokoli/tryton_workshop | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:19 <LordVan> ah nice | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:20 <LordVan> i assume that it would be ok on 4.6 too? | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:20 <pokoli> LordVan: just clone the repository and follow the instructions on README | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:20 <LordVan> thanks ;) | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:20 <pokoli> LordVan: this workshop explains how to install tryton and client | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:21 <LordVan> i might just skip that part since i have it running ^^ | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:21 <pokoli> LordVan: if you follow the commands explained it will install the 4.4 version, so everything will work as expected | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:22 <LordVan> ah yes, but i want to try to write a module for 4.6 anyway ^^ if it doesn'T work i can still do that of course | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:22 <LordVan> wnat me to let you know if i run into trouble with 4.6? | ||
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| 2018-01-17 16:24 <pokoli> LordVan: yes please | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:24 <LordVan> ok will do ;) | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:29 <LordVan> gtg now .. cya | ||
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| 2018-01-17 16:49 <artem> chat | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:52 <pokoli> artem: with who do you want to chat? xD | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:53 <artem> @pokoli ah sorry, just joined today the IRC and wanted to test how it works :) | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:54 <pokoli> artem: don't worry :) | ||
| 2018-01-17 16:54 <pokoli> artem: most of the IRC clients will highlight the user without using the @ prefix :) | ||
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