IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2018-01-07

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Jan 7 00:00:01 CET 2018
2018-01-07 00:37 <csotelo> Hi Comunity, I have noticed that there is no more credit note, instead of it, an invoice with negative values, Am I ok?
2018-01-07 00:39 <cedk> csotelo: yes, it is a credit note if all lines are negatives
2018-01-07 00:41 <csotelo> cedk, what about if we need a document named "credit note" with its own number sequence? as 3.8. Negative values are no valid for electronic invoicing on Peru
2018-01-07 00:42 <cedk> csotelo: I do not know, never hear about such constraint
2018-01-07 00:42 <csotelo> is there a way to manage it?
2018-01-07 00:42 <cedk> csotelo: credit = negitavie
2018-01-07 00:45 <csotelo> unfortunately, yes, SUNAT ( tax authority on Peru ) manage 4 basic documents invoice ( comercial and simple ) and credit note ( simple and comercial ) on any case, negative values are no admited. 3.8 fill our constraint, but 4.2 no no fill. And for invoicing, electronic invoicing, has a hard constraint, no cero or negatives values
2018-01-07 00:46 <csotelo> I am thinking on take credit note behavior from 3.8 in order to manage it
2018-01-07 00:47 <cedk> csotelo: but how do you make rebate?
2018-01-07 00:48 <cedk> csotelo: what is "cero"?
2018-01-07 00:48 <csotelo> cedk, zero no cero, sorry for the mistake
2018-01-07 00:50 <csotelo> cedk, for been honest, I am no really sure how to rebate them, however when I have doing tests with 3.8, it was fully according to the tax authority, however, after doing the upgrade, the accountant notice this issue and notice me that that it is no according Peruvian Tax Authority constraints
2018-01-07 00:51 <cedk> csotelo: If you do not know exactly how it works, I can not help
2018-01-07 00:51 <cedk> csotelo: also I do not trust accountant to provide relialable information about real constraints
2018-01-07 00:51 <csotelo> cedk, I mean, I dont know how I could get 3.8 credit note behavior to 4.2 as a invoice customization, in order to rebate
2018-01-07 00:52 <csotelo> the only feed back this morning is that credit note is no working any more and the way on how it is working on 4.2 is no according Peruvian restriction
2018-01-07 00:52 <csotelo> since is no possible an invoice with negatives values
2018-01-07 00:53 <csotelo> that is the reason on thing on take 3.8 version behavior on invoicing
2018-01-07 00:53 <csotelo> cedk, as I have written on before, 3.8 was fully ok,
2018-01-07 00:54 <cedk> csotelo: and I ask you how can you make a rebate if you can not have a negative line
2018-01-07 00:54 <csotelo> credit note as a document to rebate invoice
2018-01-07 00:55 <cedk> csotelo: so you *never ever* have any mixed document?
2018-01-07 00:55 <csotelo> is no posible
2018-01-07 00:55 <csotelo> since negative values are denied
2018-01-07 00:55 <cedk> csotelo: not sure to understand the answer
2018-01-07 00:57 <csotelo> I understand that you ask for a mixed document as a document with negative values, right? then mi answer is no, is no possible
2018-01-07 00:58 <cedk> csotelo: so you will have to add a constraint on invoice to prevent that but only on customer invoice because you may receive invoice from other countries were this is allowed
2018-01-07 00:58 <csotelo> now it is 18:57 on Peru .. I am still working at office since accountants says that my tryton upgrade, done before december 31th is no filling SUNAT requirement
2018-01-07 00:59 <csotelo> and now I must find before monday a solution
2018-01-07 00:59 <csotelo> that is the reason on asking
2018-01-07 00:59 <cedk> csotelo: you must override every code that generate an invoice to create two invoices per line sign
2018-01-07 00:59 <csotelo> one thing Thta I was thinink, is check code on how credit notes was working on before on 3.8 and copy an dpaste for a fast solution
2018-01-07 01:00 <cedk> csotelo: this is not possible, code evolves
2018-01-07 01:00 <csotelo> omg, ten I am on seriuos problems
2018-01-07 01:00 <csotelo> then*
2018-01-07 01:01 <cedk> csotelo: for me, you mainly just have to fix your code
2018-01-07 01:01 <cedk> csotelo: the constraint and code override is just to avoid issue earlier but accountant should not post such invoice
2018-01-07 01:02 <csotelo> I am using it on a health institution
2018-01-07 01:02 <csotelo> named Clinica Virgen del Rosario
2018-01-07 01:03 <csotelo> I guess I am explaining it to much
2018-01-07 01:03 <cedk> csotelo: indeed I thought you have to interface with an external software, but I reread and it does not seem
2018-01-07 01:03 <cedk> csotelo: so I do not see where is the problem
2018-01-07 01:03 <csotelo> my guesing was, how to get back credit note from 3.8
2018-01-07 01:05 <cedk> csotelo: I do not understand what you want, invoice works the same way as before with just that the display is a negative value for credit note
2018-01-07 01:05 <cedk> csotelo: but it is a formal change, the accounting is the same
2018-01-07 01:07 <cedk> https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5225
2018-01-07 01:07 <csotelo> as told you, we manage 4 basic documents types: invoice for companies named "factura", one of no companies, names "boleta", and its repectives credit notes, the main issue, on 4.2 version a credit note is an invoice with negative values managing the same sequence as a normal invoice
2018-01-07 01:08 <csotelo> restriction for our authority: none document could manage negative values, other wise will be rejected, and each document manage its own sequence
2018-01-07 01:08 <csotelo> that are the contraints
2018-01-07 01:10 <csotelo> is there a way to manage it? that is the reason what I am thinking on moving to 3.8 or find a way on get back account invoice module from 3.8
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2018-01-07 01:11 <cedk> csotelo: wrong it is not the same sequence
2018-01-07 01:11 <cedk> csotelo: but nothing changed from the accounting point of view…
2018-01-07 01:12 <cedk> I think you are just focusing on formatting detail
2018-01-07 01:13 <csotelo> no exactly, I ma focusing on sequence an negative values. But if sequenece is specific for credit note, that is ok for me, since I could manage the negative formating :)
2018-01-07 01:13 <csotelo> and now I ahev a solution for my accountan and no scare myself
2018-01-07 01:16 <cedk> csotelo: but you should add a constraint against mixed signes
2018-01-07 01:17 <csotelo> probably just on the electronic reporting for the tax authority in order on no sent negatives
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2018-01-07 01:19 <cedk> csotelo: no, on the invoice object because Tryton can now generate mixed content invoice
2018-01-07 01:19 <cedk> it was the all goal of the change
2018-01-07 01:19 <csotelo> I see
2018-01-07 01:20 <cedk> but if I follow you, you can not do such document in Peru
2018-01-07 01:23 <cedk> csotelo: by the way such constraintful module could be a generic module, there are probably other countries with similar constraints
2018-01-07 01:25 <csotelo> you are right
2018-01-07 01:25 <csotelo> tehre are a probability with similar constraints
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2018-01-07 13:48 <csotelo> dear comunity
2018-01-07 13:51 <csotelo> I need to skip / avoid wrintting validation when an invoice have been payed?
2018-01-07 13:53 <csotelo> I mean just for specific operatins
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2018-01-07 15:52 <plaes> um.. bugs and wiki are down?
2018-01-07 15:55 <plaes> actually whole tryton.org is down...
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