IRC logs of #tryton for Sunday, 2017-11-05

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Nov 5 00:00:01 CET 2017
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2017-11-05 08:48 <myself21> hello, does anyone know how to deal with invoices where VAT is included in the price ?
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2017-11-05 13:40 <LiberTango> Hello
2017-11-05 13:40 <LiberTango> is there a book to learn Tryton Framework ?
2017-11-05 13:41 <LiberTango> like odoo Development Cookbook ?
2017-11-05 13:41 <cedk> LiberTango: I'm not aware of
2017-11-05 13:41 <cedk> LiberTango: but this may help: http://downloads.tryton.org/TUL2014/crash-course.pdf
2017-11-05 13:42 <LiberTango> thank you
2017-11-05 13:42 <LiberTango> is the odoo new API a clone of tryton api ?
2017-11-05 13:42 <LiberTango> since V8 ?
2017-11-05 13:44 <cedk> LiberTango: no, Tryton follow ActiveRecord pattern
2017-11-05 13:44 <cedk> LiberTango: it is more object oriented
2017-11-05 13:45 <LiberTango> Nice choice
2017-11-05 13:46 <cedk> LiberTango: but we still have the CRUD API for lower level
2017-11-05 13:59 <myself21> cedk how i deal with invoices that have the VAT in the price ?
2017-11-05 14:00 <myself21> the perfect example is car fuel
2017-11-05 14:02 <cedk> myself21: what do you mean?
2017-11-05 14:08 <cedk> myself21: normally you should have also price without VAT
2017-11-05 14:16 <myself21> well all gas prices have the vat placed here in spain
2017-11-05 14:34 <cedk> myself21: I do not understand
2017-11-05 14:35 <myself21> cedk check your PM i show you some examples
2017-11-05 14:36 <cedk> myself21: complain about your supplier that it is not a valid invoice if you do not have VAT details
2017-11-05 14:36 <myself21> it has
2017-11-05 14:37 <myself21> and i cant complain about highway tolls thats literally the government
2017-11-05 14:37 <cedk> myself21: so no problem
2017-11-05 14:38 <myself21> yes but i cant input that on tryton it fails to sum up the numbers
2017-11-05 14:38 <cedk> myself21: edit the field to have the right numbers
2017-11-05 14:39 <myself21> so the user need to be invoice admin ?
2017-11-05 14:39 <myself21> i mean on permissions
2017-11-05 14:39 <cedk> myself21: I do not understand
2017-11-05 14:39 <cedk> myself21: edit the invoice to be as your paper invoice
2017-11-05 14:44 <myself21> the user cant edit the amout https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LNfbcKcd/image.png
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2017-11-05 15:09 <cedk> myself21: put a quantity of 1 and a unit price of what you want
2017-11-05 15:14 <myself21> 👍
2017-11-05 15:15 <myself21> i will ask pokoli about how to sum IEH
2017-11-05 15:23 <cedk> myself21: what is IEH?
2017-11-05 15:27 <myself21> is a spanish healthcare tax that vary from region to region on car fuel that some times it give reimbursed and something is not
2017-11-05 15:28 <cedk> myself21: this sounds again like a complex Spanish taxes
2017-11-05 15:29 <myself21> cedk for that reason i need to keep track of every invoice line and cant put just the total + vat = total invoice
2017-11-05 15:29 <cedk> myself21: sounds like a crazy buracratic stuffs
2017-11-05 15:30 <cedk> myself21: any way, just create a tax for each specific case
2017-11-05 15:38 <cedk> myself21: what will be the problem to have a tax for each case?
2017-11-05 16:50 <myself21> cedk is there anyway to edit total amount on a invoice ? because all the rounding the math dont adds up placing 1 quantity is not a viable solution
2017-11-05 16:52 <cedk> myself21: it is wrong, you have to have to the unit price
2017-11-05 16:52 <cedk> myself21: and you said that you have all the information
2017-11-05 16:53 <cedk> myself21: and it will be the same problem if you enter the total amount, you still have to ensure the same tax computation and so the same unit price
2017-11-05 16:54 <myself21> that is a issues if the fields affect each other if they are just entry in the db where there is no math involved there is no issue
2017-11-05 16:55 <cedk> myself21: I do not understand
2017-11-05 16:55 <myself21> for example in excel u put the total in a cell
2017-11-05 16:56 <myself21> then in the next cell u dont put = cell1/1,21 u simply put the vat number
2017-11-05 16:56 <cedk> myself21: this is not excel but an ERP
2017-11-05 16:56 <cedk> myself21: it generates accounting which requires to have proper information
2017-11-05 16:56 <myself21> yea
2017-11-05 16:57 <myself21> the proper info comes in PDF
2017-11-05 16:57 <myself21> and so far is ignoring math
2017-11-05 16:58 <cedk> myself21: you can not ignore math
2017-11-05 16:58 <cedk> any way, I do not see why you can not enter the data
2017-11-05 16:59 <myself21> because i need to keep track of the amounts
2017-11-05 16:59 <myself21> the about of product used i mean
2017-11-05 16:59 <cedk> myself21: do not understand
2017-11-05 17:00 <myself21> in car fuel the date come with 2 digits rounding 3 and even 4
2017-11-05 17:00 <myself21> i need to event the most precise about to know the use of fuel per trip per km etc
2017-11-05 17:01 <cedk> myself21: do not understand
2017-11-05 17:01 <myself21> what u dont udestand ?
2017-11-05 17:01 <cedk> myself21: the English
2017-11-05 17:01 <myself21> in PM i send u a sample to see what i am talking about
2017-11-05 17:02 <cedk> myself21: I do not understand what that means
2017-11-05 17:02 <myself21> i have quantity x price = total
2017-11-05 17:03 <cedk> myself21: you can enter taht
2017-11-05 17:03 <myself21> every one of those 3 data points have random rounding to 2 3 or 4 digits
2017-11-05 17:04 <cedk> myself21: enter quantity and price final point
2017-11-05 17:06 <myself21> then i cant compute the expense per trip
2017-11-05 17:06 <cedk> myself21: what are you talking about?
2017-11-05 17:06 <cedk> myself21: what is your goal? Is it not to enter the *invoice*
2017-11-05 17:08 <myself21> to put it on analytical account and track expenses for trip and KM
2017-11-05 17:09 <cedk> myself21: What? first time you are talking about analytic
2017-11-05 17:09 <cedk> myself21: so just put the analytic account on the line or put it later on the move
2017-11-05 17:11 <myself21> let me read the doc again because i lost you there
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