| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Wed May 17 00:00:01 CEST 2017 | ||
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| 2017-05-17 15:08 <Marleyx> Hello everybody! | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:09 <wifasoi> hello, to you and everybody. | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:10 <Marleyx> I have a controversy and i would comment with the community of tryton | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:11 <Marleyx> I'm member of Freedomcoop.eu, and the technical group of Fair.coop made https://market.fair.coop under Odoo | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:12 <Marleyx> I think that this is a mistake, but... what do you think ? | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:13 <Marleyx> Please, visit https://freedomcoop.eu/ and https://fair.coop/ and tell me what do you think about this movement | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:13 <Marleyx> thanks so much | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:14 <wifasoi> I'm trying to make a module for my hackerspace (unfortunally i'm the bookeeper/thresurer/accountant). I am trying to implement a "chart off account/type template". I started with the coockiecutter and shove the xml with my chart of account in it (and changed the tryton.cfg). But i have this error: https://pastebin.com/h5A0bBAt | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:14 <wifasoi> (i added a portion of the xml file) | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:15 <nicoe> Hell Marleyx and wifasoi | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:16 <nicoe> *Hello | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:16 <cedk> wifasoi: it is probably an ordering issue | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:16 <cedk> wifasoi: you must define record before using it as ref | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:17 <wifasoi> ok, make sense. Thanks | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:18 <nicoe> Marleyx: your projects looks interesting I can understand why there is a controversy if the project has opted for odoo | ||
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| 2017-05-17 15:21 <nicoe> Tryton has been built out of a desire to have a community instead of a company behind the software | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:21 <Marleyx> nicoe: I just arrive to the team of fair.coop, but they are working in modules since two years... then it's not correct that I say to the team that they are in wrong way | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:22 <nicoe> Marleyx: yep, on the other hand they've made this choice and I can totally understand that they don't want all their hard work questioned | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:22 <Marleyx> It's for this that I'm investigating | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:23 <nicoe> Marleyx: it's almost an ethical question rather than a technical one: Do you want to spend a lot of time to switch to something more in line with your values or do you want to get things done and maybe never switch … | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:25 <wifasoi> for a person who is switching from gnucash to tryton ( i know, apple to oranges).... is very hard | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:27 <pokoli> wifasoi: it's always hard to learn new systems :) | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:27 <pokoli> wifasoi: and creating a chart of account's is one of the hardests ones | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:28 <wifasoi> learn the new system was easy... crating the chart of accoun... ohh boy | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:28 <pokoli> wifasoi: but tryton allos you to do more thinks than gnucash, specially if you develop your custom modules | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:28 <wifasoi> and i'm an accountant fot an italian APS (assosiation, a no lucrative one) | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:29 <wifasoi> *no.profit | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:33 <wifasoi> pokoli, yeah... that's is very nice indeed... <rant> i can't compile gnucash with python bindings... becouse resons (a very annoing bug)</rant> | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:35 <pokoli> wifasoi: which modules have you tried? Tryton can change a lot depending on the activated modules | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:37 <Marleyx> nicoe: thanks, is that I think, that this tools has to be totally gnu | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:37 <Marleyx> like gnuhealth | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:39 <wifasoi> i tried (and i think i will require) the sale/payment, and the "devaluations of goods" one (for stock goods). very basic and straight forward stuff | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:39 <wifasoi> i want try the new contract module... but first i need to compile the chart of account :) | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:40 <pokoli> wifasoi: the account module contains a minimal chart of account for testing propouses | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:40 <pokoli> wifasoi: so you can test with this chart (one account of each type) and then build the full chart of accounts | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:41 <pokoli> wifasoi: I imagine you mean: sale_subscription module. Otherwise I will recomend you to have a look | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:43 <wifasoi> the difficult module for me was/is the payment module. | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:44 <wifasoi> pokoli, if you have link to some slide in the matter, it would very helpfull :3 | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:45 <pokoli> wifasoi: each module has it's own documentation: http://doc.tryton.org/4.4/modules/ | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:51 <wifasoi> hehe, i did read that. Unfortunally not all modules are documented equally. But it's a start. | ||
| 2017-05-17 15:56 <wifasoi> pgdump/template + docker container = i can broke stuff.. and learn from it without worry :) | ||
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| 2017-05-17 16:10 <pokoli> wifasoi: that's the idea, to learn by breaking :) | ||
| 2017-05-17 16:10 <pokoli> wifasoi: feel free to share your question here with us :) | ||
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| 2017-05-17 16:45 <sisalp> Marleyx: the point is interesting, and we meet the question on many "social" networks. | ||
| 2017-05-17 16:47 <sisalp> Marleyx: many social businesses tend to appropriate efforts from a community and need a centralised platform ie uderisation. | ||
| 2017-05-17 16:48 <sisalp> Marleyx: In that case proprietary or pseudo-open-source fits their strategy better than free software. | ||
| 2017-05-17 16:49 <sisalp> Marleyx: People who really want to spread freedom, will take care that what they build can be replicated and used/improved/distributed by others | ||
| 2017-05-17 16:50 <sisalp> Marleyx: In that case, Odoo is just not the right choice for them. | ||
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| 2017-05-17 16:53 <sisalp> Marleyx: s/uderisation/uberisation/ | ||
| 2017-05-17 16:54 <Marleyx> sisalp: thanks so much... you are confirming my theories | ||
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| 2017-05-17 17:16 <sisalp> Marleyx: I designed something based on Tryton to "de-Uberized" communities. If you are interested in it, we may discuss this separatly. | ||
| 2017-05-17 17:18 <Marleyx> yes sisalp | ||
| 2017-05-17 17:19 <sisalp> Marleyx: dominique.chabord@sisalp.org | ||
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| 2017-05-17 20:50 <wifasoi> Hi | ||
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| 2017-05-17 23:24 <wifasoi> I have another problem (YaY). My module (coockiecutter+xml for chart of account) loads, but when i try to create a chart of account from the template i have this error: https://pastebin.com/WK6VRfnG | ||
| 2017-05-17 23:24 <wifasoi> suggestion? | ||
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