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2016-08-02 10:50 <prayashm> How should I write tests for import/export? I read about QUnit. Going through tests/sao.js. | ||
2016-08-02 10:51 <cedk> prayashm: it is going to be very difficult because it will require to have a trytond server running | ||
2016-08-02 10:51 <cedk> prayashm: but you can try to test some methods | ||
2016-08-02 10:54 <prayashm> cedk: Thanks. I will ask if I get stuck. | ||
2016-08-02 10:59 <cedk> prayashm: do not worry too much, in Tryton the GUI is not really tested automatically | ||
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2016-08-02 11:53 <prayashm> cedk: Oh alright. :) | ||
2016-08-02 11:56 <g5pw> hey all! I'm dealing with a bug when creating sequences: if sequence.last_timestamp > next_timestamp: | ||
2016-08-02 11:56 <g5pw> TypeError: unorderable types: NoneType() > int() | ||
2016-08-02 11:56 <g5pw> is this known? | ||
2016-08-02 12:14 <cedk> g5pw: yes and fixed | ||
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2016-08-02 12:18 <pokoli> g5pw: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5591 :) | ||
2016-08-02 12:22 <g5pw> oh :/ I just installed from pip though, is the fix already released? | ||
2016-08-02 12:32 <pokoli> g5pw: not released, but you can manually apply the patch if needed | ||
2016-08-02 12:33 <g5pw> ok, thank you | ||
2016-08-02 12:40 <cedk> I planned to do some releases this week | ||
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2016-08-02 13:37 <g5pw> thanks pokoli and cedk, I applied the patch and now it works :) | ||
2016-08-02 14:50 <g5pw> Hello! is there any way to import gnucash transaction in tryton? we are trying to switch and having past transactions would be useful. | ||
2016-08-02 15:11 <pokoli> g5pw: there is no module that i'm aware, but as far as gnucash can be exported in a readable format it should be doable | ||
2016-08-02 15:12 <g5pw> aha, something like gnucash -> csv -> tryton | ||
2016-08-02 15:17 <pokoli> g5pw: normally accounting migrations are a llittle bit more complex as you have several relations | ||
2016-08-02 15:17 <pokoli> g5pw: the easier option is to migrate only the initial balance with a manually entered initial move | ||
2016-08-02 15:22 <g5pw> well, yeah, you'd have to migrate parties, invoices, etc | ||
2016-08-02 15:23 <pokoli> g5pw: yes for parties, invoices are not necessary as you have the balance in the accounting moves | ||
2016-08-02 15:23 <pokoli> g5pw: so as far as you have the amount in the customer account tryton will compute correctly the amount to pay for the party | ||
2016-08-02 15:40 <cedk> g5pw: usually we write proteus script for such migration | ||
2016-08-02 15:40 <cedk> g5pw: you can find example here: http://hg.b2ck.com/openerp2tryton/ | ||
2016-08-02 15:40 <g5pw> I see, thanks! | ||
2016-08-02 15:41 <g5pw> right now I need to reinstall everything in python2 because trytond-contract does not work with python3 :D | ||
2016-08-02 15:53 <pokoli> g5pw: you can try using 2to3 to convert it to python3 | ||
2016-08-02 15:54 <g5pw> heh, I just reinstalled in a separate virtualenv for now :) | ||
2016-08-02 16:00 <cedk> g5pw: be aware of https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5760 | ||
2016-08-02 16:01 <g5pw> oh, fresh from the presses, cedk ๐ thanks! | ||
2016-08-02 16:01 <g5pw> is it derived from https://bitbucket.org/nantic/trytond-contract/src? | ||
2016-08-02 16:15 <pokoli> g5pw: it's not the same, as nantic one is focused on invoicing, and this is focused managing the contracts, and generating the contract document using templates | ||
2016-08-02 16:15 <pokoli> g5pw: you can find the discussion on: https://discuss.tryton.org/t/contract-management/165 | ||
2016-08-02 16:15 <g5pw> yeah, I noticed from the discussion associated with the bug | ||
2016-08-02 16:16 <pokoli> g5pw: but I'm also interessed on invoicing contracts :P | ||
2016-08-02 16:17 <cedk> pokoli: I do not think you invoice a contract | ||
2016-08-02 16:17 <g5pw> I'll take a look at the implementation and see if I can contribute something, althugh tryton is still a bit esoteric to me ๐ | ||
2016-08-02 16:17 <pokoli> cedk: no you invoice some services related to it | ||
2016-08-02 16:31 <cedk> pokoli: so there is nothing to do | ||
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2016-08-02 16:35 <pokoli> cedk: generate the tasks to do the services :) | ||
2016-08-02 16:36 <cedk> pokoli: I do not think neither that a contract generate tasks | ||
2016-08-02 16:37 <cedk> pokoli: but you could have a reference to the contract on the task | ||
2016-08-02 16:38 <pokoli> cedk: I think the part about generating the tasks is quite specific, so I understand this is customization. | ||
2016-08-02 16:38 <pokoli> cedk: and Yes, I agree that tasks can reference a contract | ||
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2016-08-02 16:55 <g5pw> is there any website to familiarize myself with some tryton terms like "journal", etc? | ||
2016-08-02 17:00 <pokoli> g5pw: The account doc may be a good starting point http://doc.tryton.org/4.0/modules/account/doc/index.html | ||
2016-08-02 17:01 <cedk> g5pw: maybe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_journals | ||
2016-08-02 17:04 <g5pw> I went through the account docs, but that explains what data is contained in journal entries, and not what it is, or what it's used for. I'm not really an accountant, just a programmer :) | ||
2016-08-02 17:09 <cedk> g5pw: journal is useful only in the eyes of accountant | ||
2016-08-02 17:09 <cedk> g5pw: it is a way to classify operations | ||
2016-08-02 17:10 <g5pw> well, in this case I'm a programmer and would-be accountant (needed for operations at our hackerspace) | ||
2016-08-02 17:10 <g5pw> :) | ||
2016-08-02 17:10 <g5pw> aha, thanks for the explanations | ||
2016-08-02 17:10 <cedk> g5pw: it comes from past, where accounting was done on paper | ||
2016-08-02 17:10 <g5pw> I'm messing with journals because nantic-contracts needs them | ||
2016-08-02 17:14 <cedk> g5pw: where does it need? | ||
2016-08-02 17:14 <g5pw> when I generate contract consumptions, it says that I need to configure a journal | ||
2016-08-02 17:16 <cedk> g5pw: no idea what it is | ||
2016-08-02 17:18 <pokoli> g5pw: you should define the journal used to invoice the contracts in the contract configuration | ||
2016-08-02 17:18 <g5pw> thanks pokoli, I'll go check ๐ | ||
2016-08-02 17:19 <cedk> pokoli: why does it not choose the default journal? | ||
2016-08-02 17:20 <g5pw> yup, that was it, thanks for the help! :) | ||
2016-08-02 17:21 <pokoli> cedk: don't know, it was introduced recently: https://bitbucket.org/nantic/trytond-contract/commits/350ea54773aebfb7131b9a621e2df80a203704a5 | ||
2016-08-02 17:24 <cedk> pokoli: strange, because it is always possible to change the journal on the invoice | ||
2016-08-02 17:24 <cedk> and this is usually something that project managers do not care about | ||
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2016-08-02 20:33 <csotelo> Hello Dear Coders | ||
2016-08-02 20:33 <csotelo> Hi cedk .. let me ask directly on deposit module since you were full involved please | ||
2016-08-02 20:34 <csotelo> before it.. let em prepare an scenary fort make a clear and smart question | ||
2016-08-02 20:36 <cedk> csotelo: if it is a long question, it is probably better to ask on mailing list | ||
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2016-08-02 20:37 <csotelo> cedk, no long.. just looking to understand why... just I want to make a clear as possble | ||
2016-08-02 20:44 <csotelo> let mne explain an scenary.. | ||
2016-08-02 20:49 <csotelo> I am doing a deposit for Carlos Sotelo of USD 100.00, as a rule each deposit is an invoice and is affected to taxes, the tax is 18%, the the calculation with taxes says that the ammount for been invoiced is 18%. I will buy a product named MyProduct wich one his cost is USD 200. Then the taxes will be USD 36.00, with a total of USD 236.00. When I call deposit, it just call the USD 100.00 with out the taxes payed on before ( USD 18.00 ) and the the | ||
2016-08-02 20:49 <csotelo> invoice tell that I must pay USD 136.00, cause 200 ( Product cost ) plus USD 36.00 ( taxes ) less 100.00 ( deposit without the taxes payed ) | ||
2016-08-02 20:50 <csotelo> when the right ammount for been payed must be USD 118.00 since the depรณsit have its own payed taxes | ||
2016-08-02 20:50 <csotelo> please suggest | ||
2016-08-02 20:50 <cedk> csotelo: deposit should not be taxed | ||
2016-08-02 20:51 <csotelo> then I have an issue there.. since I will invoiced, then must taxed it... | ||
2016-08-02 20:51 <csotelo> issue on my side | ||
2016-08-02 20:51 <csotelo> any suggest? | ||
2016-08-02 20:51 <cedk> csotelo: I do not understand your logic | ||
2016-08-02 20:51 <cedk> csotelo: deposits are not subject of taxes | ||
2016-08-02 20:52 <cedk> ACTION bbl | ||
2016-08-02 20:52 <csotelo> on my country any way of money received must be taxed | ||
2016-08-02 20:53 <csotelo> probably I must do an extension for make the taxes movement on a deposit, right? | ||
2016-08-02 20:53 <csotelo> what do you think? | ||
2016-08-02 21:44 <pokoli> csotelo: but you have to declare the deposits and the taxes to your country regulation? | ||
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2016-08-02 21:48 <cedk> csotelo: what is your country? | ||
2016-08-02 21:51 <cedk> csotelo: but any way, you can add also the same tax on the recall line | ||
2016-08-02 23:13 <csotelo> cedk, sounds great! | ||
2016-08-02 23:14 <csotelo> I am from Peru | ||
2016-08-02 23:14 <csotelo> pokoli, yes.. any kind of income that generate a payment document required taxes declaration | ||
2016-08-02 23:17 <csotelo> I just call the accountant in order to ask about that.. since.. as I understood, a desposit is not a sell, and just sells must have tasks, however accountant told me that any kind of incomming money must be declarated and invoiced | ||
2016-08-02 23:17 <csotelo> and any invoice must declare taxes | ||
2016-08-02 23:18 <csotelo> since the deposit is a kind of income, then must been invoiced and declarate taxes |
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