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2015-11-26 11:47 <csotelo> Good morning coders
2015-11-26 12:14 <pokoli> csotelo: good morning
2015-11-26 12:18 <cedk> csotelo: I will have to refuse your emails on the mailing as you are still top-posting
2015-11-26 12:19 <csotelo> cedk, I understand, nbut I dont know how to explain on better way
2015-11-26 12:19 <cedk> csotelo: I don't understand what you are talking about
2015-11-26 12:20 <cedk> csotelo: please don't top-post
2015-11-26 12:20 <cedk> csotelo: and read http://groups.tryton.org/netiquette
2015-11-26 12:21 <csotelo> cedk, sorry, was a mistake on my side, I am sorry of that
2015-11-26 12:21 <pokoli> csotelo: in spain, we have some normal invoice and simplified invoice, and for me it seems very similar on what you are talking about
2015-11-26 12:22 <pokoli> csotelo: we only use two diferent reports for thath
2015-11-26 12:22 <csotelo> pokoli, could you explain me a little how you are managed that, or maybe I could write on private or is ok here
2015-11-26 12:22 <pokoli> csotelo: but on your case, when you report the taxes to the national authority, what do you have to report?
2015-11-26 12:23 <cedk> pokoli: I think I already said that your Spain localisation could be generic
2015-11-26 12:23 <csotelo> as a seller, both
2015-11-26 12:24 <cedk> pokoli: for me, it is about using the MatchMixin pattern to get the sequence for numbering
2015-11-26 12:24 <pokoli> csotelo: ok, to both, but you sum both types or report them in a separated way?
2015-11-26 12:24 <csotelo> report on separated,
2015-11-26 12:25 <pokoli> cedk: yes, sadly we have a lot of things to improve in our localization
2015-11-26 12:25 <csotelo> different account entryies
2015-11-26 12:26 <pokoli> csotelo: so you have to create a tax for each of the types
2015-11-26 12:27 <pokoli> csotelo: which is the default one? Invoice or simplified (sorry didn't remember the noun you are using)
2015-11-26 12:28 <csotelo> pokoli, default is "invoice", for natural people is "Boleta" (spanish)
2015-11-26 12:30 <aroncero> csotelo: although the report does not print, you must pay taxes to the government of the "Boleta"?
2015-11-26 12:31 <csotelo> aroncero, yes, it has its own account entry
2015-11-26 12:31 <aroncero> csotelo: so, I think it is only a report
2015-11-26 12:32 <pokoli> cedk: BTW, have you checked https://bugs.tryton.org/issue5118 ?
2015-11-26 12:33 <csotelo> on my side, I also see it as a report, but for peruvian goverme, If I use justa document I could go to jail
2015-11-26 12:33 <csotelo> is no legal to use just one way with different report
2015-11-26 12:33 <csotelo> is a mandatory according our laws
2015-11-26 12:33 <pokoli> csotelo: you can implement two views on the same model :)
2015-11-26 12:34 <pokoli> csotelo: but for me this is so much complicated :P
2015-11-26 12:35 <csotelo> pokoli, I have done that :) ( but I didnt know if it was ok ) but I dont know how to make or how tu create two different parties ( or types ) and assign them the views by default
2015-11-26 12:35 <cedk> pokoli: no, I will not perform any review until tox is fixed
2015-11-26 12:36 <cedk> csotelo: "is no legal to use just one way with different report" I never believe such quote
2015-11-26 12:38 <csotelo> cedk, yes.. they some time check computing solutions for check if all is ok according legal terms
2015-11-26 12:38 <cedk> pokoli: also I'm almost pretty sure those different invoice "type" should be managed with different journals
2015-11-26 12:38 <cedk> csotelo: I even beleive less now
2015-11-26 12:39 <csotelo> I am calling an account friend
2015-11-26 12:43 <aroncero> cedk: In Spain we must have a different sequence for each invoice type
2015-11-26 12:44 <aroncero> maybe in Peru is similar
2015-11-26 12:48 <cedk> aroncero: I know that's why I propose to have a generic design
2015-11-26 12:51 <aroncero> cedk: I think that is the way, then each localisation must make the change for each country
2015-11-26 12:52 <pokoli> cedk: sorry, i though that only commit process was stoped, and we can continue uploading reviews
2015-11-26 12:53 <pokoli> and, yes I agree we can find a generic solution
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2015-11-26 13:29 <csotelo> cedk, pokoli aroncero I was talking with an accountant friend ( I am a computer scientis no accountant ), I was wrong on many things.
2015-11-26 13:35 <csotelo> My friend explain me that is no need to have two differnt views, but is required having two differnt clients ( natural parties and legal parties ), the default one is natural parties for simple invoicing ( as spain ), and for legal parties, I just could use normal invoice. As aroncero, finally, depending on party type, the report could be choiced between a normal invoice and simple invoice, and .. on the account entry, there is no difference, but on
2015-11-26 13:35 <csotelo> reporting to goverment authority, must be separated ( I havent understood very well that, since my friend told me that both simple and normal invoice goes to the same account, sellings account, but must be reported on separated way )
2015-11-26 13:35 <cedk> csotelo: I think it is better that you post on your mailing list thread
2015-11-26 13:36 <csotelo> cedk, I wil do that, I though could be good also post here just as a part on information and then notice that I will continue the discussion on mailing, cause of the large text
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2015-11-26 18:29 <tatilu> hola
2015-11-26 18:29 <tatilu> a todos
2015-11-26 18:30 <tatilu> Hello everyone
2015-11-26 18:31 <tatilu> consultation: it is best to install a Debian or Ubuntu Operating System
2015-11-26 18:32 <pokoli> tatilu: this channel is for tryton questions, so your question is unrealted
2015-11-26 18:32 <pokoli> tatilu: you can install tryton on both operating systems
2015-11-26 18:33 <tatilu> that's what I mean
2015-11-26 18:34 <pokoli> tatilu: have a look at the wiki, https://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationOnDebian https://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationOnUbuntu
2015-11-26 18:35 <tatilu> Thank you
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2015-11-26 18:46 <pokoli> tatilu: you're welcome
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2015-11-26 22:25 <csotelo> hello coders, any updated about my mail sent this morning about localization for Peru? thanks a lot
2015-11-26 22:33 <cedk> csotelo: for me nothing new, I have said all I could on the topic
2015-11-26 22:34 <csotelo> cedk,then I am not understanding ....
2015-11-26 22:36 <csotelo> just one more thing... then how could I make two diferent report bases on the paty type? Must I create two different party types?
2015-11-26 22:36 <cedk> csotelo: I think you can manage with one single template and some if statement
2015-11-26 22:37 <cedk> even if I don't understand why you could not use the same for both type
2015-11-26 22:42 <cedk> csotelo: so to sum up, I think you should try to collaborate with others (Spanish and Argentina at least) guys to make a proposal for a generic module/patch to implement multi-numbering of invoice based on MatchMixin
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2015-11-26 23:30 <csotelo> I am trying on collaborate with coder from Spain or Argentina, they have similar implementations
2015-11-26 23:32 <csotelo> and learn how they work
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