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2015-02-25 16:42 <Warsaw> hello
2015-02-25 16:42 <Warsaw> I'm trying to install tryton in Window$
2015-02-25 16:42 <Warsaw> I keep getting a missing msvcr90.dll
2015-02-25 16:43 <cedk> Warsaw: this is to build the setup.exe
2015-02-25 16:43 <Warsaw> This thing has Win 7, SP1
2015-02-25 16:43 <Warsaw> I open cmd
2015-02-25 16:43 <cedk> Warsaw: see https://bugs.tryton.org/issue4014
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2015-02-25 16:45 <Warsaw> Does this apply even if I'm trying pip install tryton?
2015-02-25 16:45 <Warsaw> I don't even have visual studio 9
2015-02-25 16:46 <Warsaw> at least, it's not in the Program Files (x86) directory
2015-02-25 16:47 <Warsaw> Should I instead download the zip file for tryton from the PyPI website and run pip install tryton*.zip?
2015-02-25 16:48 <Warsaw> (after having modified the setup.py file with the information shown in the forum)
2015-02-25 16:50 <Warsaw> I can find msvcr90.dll in a C:\Windows\WinSxS subdirectory, but not in Program Files
2015-02-25 16:51 <pokoli> Warsaw: you need a custom build? or you only want the standalone client
2015-02-25 16:51 <Timitos> Warsaw: why don't you use the *.exe files provided as download
2015-02-25 16:52 <pokoli> Warsaw: if you need the client, you can download an exe from http://www.tryton.org/download.html
2015-02-25 16:53 <Warsaw> In summary, because I don't know if I can add zikzakmedia's POS module to the standalone version. The real need of my mom's business is to have a POS (Point of Sale) which can deal with customers and suppliers. Thus, I thought that the best way to do this would be to add zikzakmedia's POS module into the (non-standalone) tryton modules directory.
2015-02-25 16:55 <cedk> Warsaw: ask Zikzakmedia
2015-02-25 16:55 <pokoli> Warsaw: you can use the standard client with zikzakmedia POS module, you only have to download the module on the server modules directory
2015-02-25 16:55 <Warsaw> The question for me right now is: can I add a module (whatever module) to the EXE version of the client?
2015-02-25 16:55 <pokoli> Warsaw: have you installed the server?
2015-02-25 16:55 <Warsaw> Perfect
2015-02-25 16:55 <Warsaw> Thanks
2015-02-25 16:56 <Warsaw> I already did the pip install trytond
2015-02-25 16:56 <Warsaw> should I uninstall it before installing the client?
2015-02-25 16:57 <pokoli> Warsaw: client are server are independent
2015-02-25 16:57 <pokoli> Warsaw: you can have the server installed on one machine, and the client installed in another one if you want
2015-02-25 16:59 <Warsaw> Can I run the client as a stand-alone application without having installed a server on Window$? (I saw that there is no server installer for Win)
2015-02-25 16:59 <Warsaw> Thanks pokoli
2015-02-25 17:00 <Warsaw> There is only one machine
2015-02-25 17:01 <Warsaw> Is there a difference between the client download and neso?
2015-02-25 17:01 <pokoli> Warsaw: neso is the client and the server bundled together
2015-02-25 17:01 <Warsaw> Can I add modules to Neso?
2015-02-25 17:01 <pokoli> Warsaw: yes, you can add module on Neso
2015-02-25 17:02 <Warsaw> Ok, I only add it to the modules directory, then, right?
2015-02-25 17:02 <Warsaw> Sorry, I know this are very basic questions...
2015-02-25 17:02 <Warsaw> these
2015-02-25 17:03 <pokoli> Warsaw: yes, you have to extract it to the modules directory with the right name
2015-02-25 17:03 <Warsaw> Ok. Thank you very much.
2015-02-25 17:04 <Warsaw> I hope that I can use this information to bring Tryton to other small businesses (free)
2015-02-25 17:04 <Warsaw> Have a nice day pokoli and cedk
2015-02-25 17:04 <pokoli> Warsaw: but neso uses SQLite, which have some limitations, see http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/file/02ef4d622282/README#l57
2015-02-25 17:05 <pokoli> Warsaw: and AFAIK it's not easy to update a database between neso series
2015-02-25 17:05 <Warsaw> :(
2015-02-25 17:06 <Warsaw> Can I have trytond installed with "pip install trytond" and tryton client installed from EXE?
2015-02-25 17:06 <pokoli> Warsaw: yes
2015-02-25 17:07 <Warsaw> Is there something that I should know, may be? In linux, we need to configure postgresql.conf, pg_hba.conf and trytond.conf, for instance
2015-02-25 17:07 <Warsaw> Is there something like that for Win?
2015-02-25 17:07 <pokoli> Warsaw: you should also configure trytond.conf
2015-02-25 17:07 <Warsaw> install postgresql in Win also?
2015-02-25 17:08 <cedk> pokoli: for update, you backup/restore a dump and check the update
2015-02-25 17:08 <pokoli> Warsaw: and if you plan to use Postgresql (which is recomended) you should install postgresql and configure it properly to be accessible from trytond
2015-02-25 17:08 <pokoli> Warsaw: if you use postgresql you also need pyscopg2 (database access driver)
2015-02-25 17:09 <pokoli> cedk: it's to much complex
2015-02-25 17:09 <pokoli> ACTION is joking
2015-02-25 17:09 <pokoli> cedk: didn't know about it, we always upgrade from server side :P
2015-02-25 17:09 <Warsaw> Ok, so it has the same requirements as in linux, then...
2015-02-25 17:10 <pokoli> Warsaw: yes
2015-02-25 17:10 <Warsaw> I'll see if I can do this from Win (I hate that thing! I thought that I was done with it!)
2015-02-25 17:11 <Warsaw> (Windo$ SUCKS)
2015-02-25 17:11 <Warsaw> Thank you guys. Do you mind if I come back asking more simple questions if I get stuck?
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2015-02-25 17:14 <pokoli> Warsaw: you can install virtualbox with an linux image from the server (with postgresql) and run the client from windows
2015-02-25 17:14 <pokoli> Warsaw: also its possible to host trytond on some VPS
2015-02-25 17:15 <pokoli> Warsaw: and yes, feel free to come back whenever you get stuck. We will try to help as much as possible
2015-02-25 17:16 <cedk> Warsaw: I think the choice between full client/server vs neso depends if you plan to customize it (installed external module) and the features used (well supported by SQLite or not)
2015-02-25 17:16 <Warsaw> I have no server (I think), there is only one PC here, and it runs Win. I have tried installing linux before here, and everytime I do it, it's like if I poisoned the keyboard.
2015-02-25 17:18 <Warsaw> I don't know what VPS is (I will look it up), but this little business is at the verge of bankrupcy. I don't think that paying for this service is an option
2015-02-25 17:18 <Warsaw> I know that Tryton can help to keep this business in order and possibly save my mom (and other little businesses) a lot of cash
2015-02-25 17:20 <Warsaw> I will first try running all the requirements from within Win$. What annoys me the most is that my mom always buys equipment that seems to work as well as bricks when connected to Linux
2015-02-25 17:20 <Warsaw> I could simply force her computer to run Linux, and help her with the learning curve while I'm here, but she has this thermal printer which just doesn't work with Linux
2015-02-25 17:21 <Warsaw> I'm completely against non-free software, and even with that, I downloaded the privative driver which... DIDN'T F**ing work!
2015-02-25 17:22 <Warsaw> Anyways... I'll try and let you know
2015-02-25 17:25 <pokoli> cedk: BTW its possible to build a custom version of neso with custom modules?
2015-02-25 17:26 <pokoli> Warsaw: we can not help you installing linux, and with propietary drivers, but feel free to ask whatever related to tryton :)
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2015-02-25 17:28 <Warsaw> Thanks, just letting out some steam.
2015-02-25 17:28 <unicode2013> Hi, i'm just trying out the account_deposit review 14801002, and i'm getting a 'The value of the field "Account" on "Invoice Line" is not valid according to its domain.'
2015-02-25 17:31 <unicode2013> is this because in account/account_invoice.py in InvoiceLine the account domain is set to revenue and expense and not changed in account_deposit?
2015-02-25 17:32 <cedk> pokoli: probably by tuning setup.py to include new modules
2015-02-25 17:33 <cedk> unicode2013: fill a comment
2015-02-25 17:33 <pokoli> cedk: thanks i will try that :)
2015-02-25 17:35 <unicode2013> okay, will do, thanks
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2015-02-25 18:20 <Warsaw> restarting...
2015-02-25 18:22 <pokoli> cedk: it worked, thanks :)
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