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| 2015-01-15 09:51 <marius__> what's proper way of starting using tryton for accounting? What is the correct way to move amounts into accounts? | ||
| 2015-01-15 09:57 <pokoli> marius__: sorry but i don't understand what are you asking | ||
| 2015-01-15 09:57 <pokoli> marius__: if you want to use accouting, use the account module, create a chart of accounts and then just create Moves | ||
| 2015-01-15 10:02 <marius__> pokoli, I have fiscal year that ended in another system and I want to start new fiscal year in tryton | ||
| 2015-01-15 10:03 <marius__> so I want to move accounts from the old system | ||
| 2015-01-15 10:03 <marius__> only the totals probably | ||
| 2015-01-15 10:04 <cedk> marius__: you must create a big move with the balance of each account on an adjustement period | ||
| 2015-01-15 10:04 <cedk> marius__: for account with party required (payable/receivable) you must have a balance per party | ||
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| 2015-01-15 10:19 <marius__> thanks cedk , will try | ||
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| 2015-01-15 12:10 <cedk> pokoli: with who and where could I talk about the stock_lot_expire module? | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:19 <pokoli> cedk: I asked to my mates, i will keep you informed :) | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:31 <pokoli> cedk: you can send an email to Guillem, do you have the email address? | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:37 <cedk> pokoli: would prefer an open discussion | ||
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| 2015-01-15 12:39 <pokoli> cedk: talk to guillemNaN :) | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:41 <cedk> guillemNaN: I don't understand the usage of removal and alert date | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:42 <cedk> guillemNaN: nor why you need a special location for expired | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:44 <cedk> I would like to create a standard module called stock_sled (shelf life expiration date) | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:44 <cedk> with a sled date and an optional expiration date | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:45 <cedk> I think those date should be computed at the reception of the goods using the reception date | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:46 <cedk> I don't think we need to prevent to move expired product | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:46 <cedk> but just a warning when it goes to customer | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:46 <cedk> I want that expired products not being computed in the stock quantity | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:47 <cedk> using the sled date with option extra delay | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:49 <cedk> ACTION bbl | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:52 <guillemNaN> removal and alert date are used to advert user about it | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:52 <guillemNaN> when the lot should be removed, and the alert date is a previous advert. | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:54 <guillemNaN> the configuration by location allows to be more flexible. the restriction (not only advert, it must to be more strict) is also for productions | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:55 <cedk> guillemNaN: see nowhere it is usage | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:55 <cedk> guillemNaN: when it should be removed is at the sled date | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:55 <guillemNaN> alert and removal could be removed. now we doesn't have any use case and could be added in another module | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:56 <guillemNaN> cedk: nop, for pharma industries it's more strict. | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:57 <cedk> guillemNaN: you mean the delay between the sled date will very per product | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:57 <guillemNaN> cedk: expiry date is fixed information of lot. depends of kind of product you have different security margins | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:57 <cedk> guillemNaN: any way, it doesn't need to be stored on the lot | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:58 <guillemNaN> cedk: yes, an option is have this margin in the product. | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:58 <guillemNaN> cedk: the only advantage to have it materialized in the lot is if this margin change in the time... but it could be managed by history if it's needed | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:59 <cedk> guillemNaN: for the move, I realy thing the location type is enough | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:59 <guillemNaN> cedk: correct | ||
| 2015-01-15 12:59 <cedk> guillemNaN: indeed, for changes it is better without storing it as if laws change it apply also on your current products | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:00 <cedk> guillemNaN: OK I will work on a rework of this module | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:00 <guillemNaN> cedk: provably. We agree it's enough have the margins in the product. changes over it should be customer/industry specific modules | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:02 <guillemNaN> cedk: so the final design is one expiry date in the lot, one or two margin in product and some kind of configuration about the allowed location types using this margins, isn't it? | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:03 <cedk> guillemNaN: two dates on lot: sled and expiration date | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:04 <guillemNaN> cedk: ok, nice. the sled date is what is used to allow or not the move | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:05 <guillemNaN> cedk: enough for us | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:06 <guillemNaN> cedk: already exists a review? | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:13 <Timitos> cedk: if you don't store the expiry date on the lot. what date will you use to compute the expiry date? | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:13 <guillemNaN> Timitos: it will be stored 2 dates in the lot | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:14 <Timitos> guillemNaN: thx. seems that i missed the last few posts | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:16 <guillemNaN> cedk: have you seen this review? 7881002 | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:40 <cedk> guillemNaN: not yet | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:43 <cedk> guys, in this http://bit.ly/1KGVSw6, Fabien Pinckaers states that Tryton is dead :-) | ||
| 2015-01-15 13:50 <cedk> always good at jokes :-) | ||
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| 2015-01-15 13:50 <marius__> cedk, any plans for 3.4.2? | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:00 <pokoli> cedk: don't see where do you read this joke | ||
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| 2015-01-15 14:16 <Timitos> pokoli: its in the comments | ||
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| 2015-01-15 14:21 <marius__> why tests in tryton are written so that order of execution is important.. | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:21 <marius__> I hate that ;) | ||
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| 2015-01-15 14:33 <marius__> https://www.google.com/trends/explore#cat=0-5&q=tryton%2C%20odoo%2C%20openerp&date=1%2F2007%2097m | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:41 <cedk> marius__: because we must rely on database | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:41 <cedk> marius__: but I agree that unittest should try to be independent | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:43 <marius__> it's really hard to write tests for a module | ||
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| 2015-01-15 14:46 <cedk> marius__: it depends what you are testing | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:49 <cedk> marius__: trends means almost nothing for a real free software | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:51 <cedk> marius__: Odoo always shows trends because the implicit goal is to sale the company | ||
| 2015-01-15 14:57 <cedk> marius__: for the unittest order, I think almost any are sequencial, except some depending on company or account for which we should better to create tools to setup per test such things | ||
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| 2015-01-15 15:49 <cedk> nicoe: reminder: https://twitter.com/nicoe/status/550949666347814912 | ||
| 2015-01-15 15:50 <nicoe> cedk: indeed | ||
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| 2015-01-15 17:19 <pokoli> cedk: any plans for release 0.5 version of python-sql | ||
| 2015-01-15 17:19 <pokoli> i will like to use CTE on one of my developments :) | ||
| 2015-01-15 17:29 <cedk> pokoli: I would like to include schema before | ||
| 2015-01-15 17:40 <pokoli> cedk: nothing prevents you to commit schema before the release | ||
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| 2015-01-15 18:17 <laurent_> Hi, I'm installing tryton 3.4.0 server on a ubuntu server installation and I don't really understand what is the correct configuration for Postegresql for the client to be able to create databases | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:18 <laurent_> what I mean is, I don't know what (and how) is the tryton client expecting to find | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:18 <cedk> laurent_: the client doesn't connect to the database | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:18 <cedk> laurent_: only the server trytond does | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:19 <cedk> laurent_: also the server only answer to database creation from the client if the super_pwd is set | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:19 <cedk> http://doc.tryton.org/3.4/trytond/doc/topics/configuration.html#super-pwd | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:20 <laurent_> thank you, I have created a password using that command | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:20 <cedk> laurent_: otherwise the easy way is: http://doc.tryton.org/3.4/trytond/doc/topics/setup_database.html#topics-setup-database | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:20 <laurent_> and included it in a file named trytond.conf | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:21 <laurent_> But I keep getting a wrong password error | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:21 <laurent_> ok, I will try this option right now | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:22 <cedk> laurent_: are you sure you are connecting to your local server and not the demo for example | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:23 <laurent_> cedk: yes, I'm sure, localhost:8000 | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:26 <cedk> laurent_: so maybe the password is not correctly encrypted | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:27 <laurent_> cedk:yes, I'm cheking that, I re-encrypted the same password and got a completely different encrypted string | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:27 <laurent_> is that normal? is there a random elemento to encryption? | ||
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| 2015-01-15 18:28 <cedk> laurent_: yes | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:29 <cedk> laurent_: there is a random seed | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:34 <laurent_> cedk: when following your suggestion for the database creation I get: FATAL :password authentication failed for user "user" | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:36 <cedk> laurent_: are you creating a database or just login? | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:40 <laurent_> cadk: I've been trying to login | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:41 <laurent_> at some point I assumed to problem had something to do with the database | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:42 <laurent_> but now that you mention it, it doesn't really make sense... | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:43 <laurent_> I start the server trytond pointing at the trytond.conf file, but I can´t login with the password I used | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:45 <cedk> laurent_: you have to create a database first | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:49 <laurent_> I tried creating it with the client | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:50 <laurent_> and with the command in the link you sent me | ||
| 2015-01-15 18:54 <laurent_> in both cases it says I have the wrong tryton server password | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:21 <cedk> laurent_: this is strange | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:22 <cedk> laurent_: when do you get this message? | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:25 <cedk> laurent_: there is two kind of password: one for DB management and one link to user for login | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:25 <laurent_> I opne the client, cancel the login, go to create new database, enter the name, tryton server password I previously encrypted(but the non-encrypted version), enter a new password for the database | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:26 <laurent_> click on create and get the error message that tryton server password is incorrect | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:28 <cedk> laurent_: are you sure the server is reading your configuration file? | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:28 <laurent_> I actually have the same password right now for DB management and tryton encrypted... | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:29 <laurent_> yes, I get a message when starting the server | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:49 <cedk> laurent_: but with the doc, you don't need the super password, so how can it fail on the same error | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:52 <laurent_> I really don't know... | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:53 <cedk> laurent_: probably because you don't try to login but still create a database when the database is already created | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:54 <cedk> laurent_: can not help more if you don't explain what you are doing | ||
| 2015-01-15 19:56 <laurent_> ok, give me second, I'll try to be more specific | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:00 <laurent_> I downloaded all prerequisite packages to run trytond, I downloaded tryton and trytond from the tarball and unpacked them on a user a created on my ubuntu server. With that same username I created a user in postgres with the ability to create databases | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:01 <laurent_> I created a trytond.conf file with the uri for postgres and with a super password I generated | ||
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| 2015-01-15 20:02 <laurent_> I start the server with that config file and then I start the client | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:02 <laurent_> there, I cancel the login window and attempt to create a new database | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:03 <laurent_> for the tryton server password I enter the non encrypted version | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:06 <laurent_> Am I missing something at this point? | ||
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| 2015-01-15 20:38 <cedk> laurent_: so you did not try to follow the doc | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:41 <cedk> laurent_: are you sure you put the super_pwd into the session section? | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:41 <laurent_> If you mean the one for creating the database, I got error | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:41 <cedk> I tested again this way and it is working here | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:41 <laurent_> yes, I'm positive | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:41 <cedk> laurent_: what error? | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:42 <laurent_> FATAL :password authentication failed for user "user" | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:42 <cedk> laurent_: that's not possible | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:42 <cedk> laurent_: what are you doing when you follow the doc? | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:43 <laurent_> Iget that in the terminal after entering: trytond -c <config file> -d <database name> --all | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:44 <laurent_> using the config file I created | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:44 <laurent_> the whole path to it of course | ||
| 2015-01-15 20:44 <cedk> laurent_: please put somewhere the all log | ||
| 2015-01-15 21:14 <laurent_> ok, I had an error in the URI | ||
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