IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2014-11-14

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2014-11-14 09:55 <xrg_> Hello, any url for the video *stream* (no custom players, please) ?
2014-11-14 09:56 <smarro> xrg_: http://tul2014.tryton.org/360-live/
2014-11-14 09:56 <xrg_> http://stream3.nc3-cdn.com:1935/live/python/playlist.m3u8 seems to be the beamer, any camera?
2014-11-14 09:56 <xrg_> smarro: that's the page, not the stream ;)
2014-11-14 09:57 <smarro> xrg_: ;)
2014-11-14 09:57 <pokoli> smarro: whatching you on the camera :P
2014-11-14 09:57 <nicoe> Hello pokoli !
2014-11-14 09:58 <smarro> pokoli: hi !!!
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2014-11-14 09:58 <pokoli> nicoe: smarro please give a great thanks for the livestream, thats amazing :P
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2014-11-14 09:58 <nicoe> xrg_: The streaming is kindly provided for free by http://www.videostream360.com/ so we don't have control over the technology used
2014-11-14 09:59 <xrg_> nicoe: shame.. They only work with some custom player (platform-limited). I can get one MPEG stream, but not cameras or sound.
2014-11-14 09:59 <pokoli> nicoe: at lest you don't have to be always on the camera
2014-11-14 09:59 <nicoe> xrg_: But I think we will receive the videos afterwards and publish it on our website
2014-11-14 10:00 <nicoe> pokoli: indeed
2014-11-14 10:00 <nicoe> ;)
2014-11-14 10:06 <xrg_> Seems the stream is an apple-only thing :(
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2014-11-14 10:07 <pokoli> xrg_: I'm watching it from a linux computer
2014-11-14 10:07 <kstenger> I have the stream working, on linux, but the sound is not clear
2014-11-14 10:07 <pokoli> xrg_: you just need flash player
2014-11-14 10:07 <xrg_> pokoli: no flash player here.
2014-11-14 10:07 <pokoli> xrg_: so that's what you need :P
2014-11-14 10:07 <xrg_> neither iTunes or anything closed.
2014-11-14 10:08 <munron> I have the stream working on a Windows 7 machine, Firefox browser
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2014-11-14 10:09 <kstenger> pokoli: is sound good for you?
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2014-11-14 10:09 <pokoli> kstenger: no :(
2014-11-14 10:10 <kstenger> :(
2014-11-14 10:10 <pokoli> kstenger: I the problem is the source, not on the stream
2014-11-14 10:10 <munron> The sound is bad here as well
2014-11-14 10:10 <kstenger> yes, it sounds like it's room sound, not the microphone's sound
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2014-11-14 10:12 <kstenger> actually it is very very bad, there's nothing to do about it?
2014-11-14 10:13 <nicoe> kstenger: actually we know about the issue
2014-11-14 10:14 <nicoe> kstenger: we're looking for a new cable the one we have is broken
2014-11-14 10:14 <kstenger> ok :D so there's hope
2014-11-14 10:17 <xrg_> OK, video is here: http://stream3.nc3-cdn.com:1935/live/python360/playlist.m3u8
2014-11-14 10:17 <xrg_> sound is still funny, though..
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2014-11-14 10:22 <pokoli> nicoe: sound is much better now
2014-11-14 10:23 <nicoe> pokoli: good
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2014-11-14 10:43 <kstenger> I can hear people's comments ok, but I still can hardly understand cedric's voice, it still sounds with a lot of echoe
2014-11-14 10:49 <xrg_> KDE?
2014-11-14 10:49 <kstenger> no, archlinux
2014-11-14 10:50 <kstenger> the thing is not my system, because people near the camera sounds perfectly
2014-11-14 10:55 <nicoe> Any questions for Cédric?
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2014-11-14 10:59 <nicoe> kstenger: is the sound of the speaker better ?
2014-11-14 11:00 <kstenger> not enough, but still, when people talks behind the camera or near it they are heard very well
2014-11-14 11:00 <sharoonthomas> kstenger: probably because we are louder :
2014-11-14 11:01 <kstenger> I don't know... it's such a pitty :(
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2014-11-14 11:03 <kstenger> it seems like it sounds better for those who don't use a mic ... weird
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2014-11-14 11:10 <sharoonthomas> @kstenger is the issue echo ?
2014-11-14 11:10 <kstenger> yes
2014-11-14 11:10 <kstenger> when you use the mic
2014-11-14 11:10 <sharoonthomas> could it be because the speaker has a microphone and the sound is picked up in addition by the streaming tool ?
2014-11-14 11:11 <kstenger> yes, definitely
2014-11-14 11:11 <grasbauer> udos talk now its better?
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2014-11-14 11:16 <xrg_> sharoonthomas: AFAICT sound comes /only/ from the streaming device microphone, not the one at the speaker
2014-11-14 11:17 <pokoli> hi video is freezen for me, anyone else or it's only me?
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2014-11-14 11:17 <kstenger> pokoli: me too, thought it was my connection
2014-11-14 11:17 <bechamel> it's also frozen for me
2014-11-14 11:17 <cedk> is the sound better now?
2014-11-14 11:17 <kstenger> now there's no video :D
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2014-11-14 11:21 <pokoli> cedk: grasbauer sharoonthomas i think that the device microphone is too loud
2014-11-14 11:21 <grasbauer> better?
2014-11-14 11:23 <pokoli> grasbauer: yes :)
2014-11-14 11:26 <kstenger> now sounds seems much better :)
2014-11-14 11:29 <kstenger> pokoli: is the video continuous to you? it's now pausing every few seconds for me
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2014-11-14 11:30 <pokoli> kstenger: no, not continuos here too
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2014-11-14 12:08 <tarunbhardwaj> Hi all
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2014-11-14 12:37 <kstenger> I'm very sorry to say this... but the stream is not working good... it was steady for about half an hour, but then it went back to a jumpy state, imposible to follow the conversation :-(
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2014-11-14 12:39 <nicoe> kstenger: we're sorry for the quality of the stream
2014-11-14 12:40 <nicoe> we're working on it
2014-11-14 12:41 <kstenger> thank you nicoe and everyone else, I know you guys are doing a big effort!
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2014-11-14 15:05 <Michele__> test
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2014-11-14 15:49 <nicoe> kstenger: The talks has started again, is the sound better?
2014-11-14 15:49 <pokoli> nicoe: no sound nor image here
2014-11-14 15:49 <kstenger> I have no stream
2014-11-14 15:49 <nicoe> kstenger: oops
2014-11-14 15:49 <kstenger> :)
2014-11-14 15:50 <cedk> work in progress
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2014-11-14 15:53 <pokoli> cedk: working :)
2014-11-14 15:53 <kstenger> oh, much! much better!
2014-11-14 15:53 <kstenger> :D
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2014-11-14 16:00 <kstenger> stream is gone again nicoe
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2014-11-14 16:00 <kstenger> back, nm
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2014-11-14 16:22 <kstenger> it's been jumpy for a while, and now gone
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2014-11-14 16:29 <rmu> hi - FYI re. stream: didn't work here the whole day, now it is jumpy, and completely out of sync to beamcast. sound is not that bad, if there is any.
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2014-11-14 17:02 <rp__> No streaming :(
2014-11-14 17:06 <kstenger> it's been a frustrating torture ... *sigh*... I guess we should wait for the videos to be uploaded, because the talks look amazing one after the other
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2014-11-14 17:19 <xrg_> talks look amazing, conversation very interesting. But streaming has failed us. That 360 format seems to be very bandwidth-hungry, cannot cope.
2014-11-14 17:20 <kstenger> indeed
2014-11-14 17:21 <xrg_> if only we could have the sound in a separate, lean, stream..
2014-11-14 17:22 <kstenger> the plain beamcast with sound would be as good as necessary
2014-11-14 17:23 <rp__> same here..no streaming at all
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2014-11-14 17:43 <pokoli> are they discusing about git vs. mercurial????
2014-11-14 17:44 <pokoli> smarro: can you inform?
2014-11-14 17:46 <rp__> yes
2014-11-14 17:47 <pokoli> I think this is a waste of time....
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2014-11-14 17:52 <rp__> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/golang-dev/sckirqOWepg
2014-11-14 17:53 <pokoli> rp__: most tryton contributors work on mercurial currently
2014-11-14 17:53 <Pilou> all operations - even review - (apart from commit) can be done using git and the unofficial git repository
2014-11-14 17:54 <rp__> i think the talk is about how contributions can be made easily...Tryton community certainly needs to grow
2014-11-14 17:55 <pokoli> If i remember well, git misses pre-commit codereview, which is what we are doing now with rietvield
2014-11-14 17:55 <pokoli> rp__: we created easy issues for this https://bugs.tryton.org/issue?status=-1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7&@sort=-activity&@search_text=&@columns=id,activity,title,creator,status&@dispname=Show%20Easy&keyword=27&@group=priority&@filter=status,keyword&@pagesize=50&@startwith=0
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2014-11-14 18:23 <Pilou> pokoli: this you could use upload.py with a git repository
2014-11-14 18:23 <Pilou> s/this//
2014-11-14 18:27 <rituparnapanda> @pokoli why you think its waste of time?
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2014-11-14 18:35 <tarunbhardwaj> pokoli: Creating issue on Github is far easy and better than bugs.tryton.org
2014-11-14 18:47 <tarunbhardwaj> pokoli: most tryton contributors work on mercurial currently because we are still in Hg. If we move to git and host on github we will surly have contributors in git.
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