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| 2014-02-06 08:44 <jvblasco> morning everyone | ||
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| 2014-02-06 13:00 <buxy> what's the purpose of the account_statement module ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:01 <buxy> Is it a way to make it easier to input moves ? is it a way to reconcile already existing moves lines ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:02 <cedk> buxy: it is to book statements | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:03 <cedk> buxy: and common usage of statements are bank statement | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:03 <cedk> buxy: but it could also be used to cash registry | ||
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| 2014-02-06 13:04 <buxy> why does it require a special kind of "journal" ? shouldn't the moves from bank statement be recorded in the "cash" journal ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:05 <buxy> or are those two kind of journals entirely unrelated ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:05 <buxy> hum I guess the latter | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:06 <buxy> to be able to differentiate bank statements / cash registry and so on, nothing to do with the moves themselves I guess | ||
| 2014-02-06 13:07 <buxy> I was wondering if there was some "recurring_move/invoice" module, I mean I have expenses that are the same each month and it's tedious to type everything manually | ||
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| 2014-02-06 13:16 <cedk> buxy: no but you can use the copy action | ||
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| 2014-02-06 14:02 <buxy> cedk: can we configure the "Account Move" view to display the description ? At least it would be possible to quickly identify the correct move to duplicate. | ||
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| 2014-02-06 14:32 <grasbauer> sale - http://hg.tryton.org/modules/sale/file/8f6af54494db/sale.py#l1336 - should this check the default accounts of account.configuration before raising an erro? | ||
| 2014-02-06 14:33 <cedk> buxy: copy the invoice! | ||
| 2014-02-06 14:34 <cedk> grasbauer: it is done with the Property | ||
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| 2014-02-06 14:40 <grasbauer> cedk: ah - ok - need to set a default property for product.template or product.category | ||
| 2014-02-06 14:41 <grasbauer> "Learn, learn and keep learning," W.I. Lenin | ||
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| 2014-02-06 14:50 <buxy> cedk: When you use an invoice, you have two moves, one for the invoice and one for the payment of the invoice, since most of those recurring expenses are auto-debited, I tend to add them in the accounting after the fact in a single move (expense->bank, instead of expense->party & party->bank). | ||
| 2014-02-06 14:51 <buxy> Using an invoice just brings more overhead and no real value to me. | ||
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| 2014-02-06 15:39 <cedk> buxy: but what about taxes report | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:39 <cedk> buxy: and by the way, this sounds breaking the accounting principles | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:40 <buxy> cedk: "tax lines" are at the "move" level, not at the invoice level, so it seems to me that I should be ok ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:40 <buxy> (or rather "move line") | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:41 <buxy> I took care to fill them properly. | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:44 <cedk> buxy: if you fill it is easier, good for you. Personaly, I find invoice easier to edit the invoice date, the payment term etc. | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:46 <buxy> I should probably go down that way, the "cost" to me is that I keep a paper copy of all account moves with the required proof (paper invoice, credit statement, etc.) | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:49 <buxy> so 2 papers to write down is annoying and the payment proof tends to be just the bank statement | ||
| 2014-02-06 15:52 <buxy> One way to mitigate this would be to be able to print the moves from tryton directly. | ||
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| 2014-02-06 21:30 <buxy> when I click on the "pay" button on a supplier invoice, there's nowhere where I can pick the account used for the payment, it seems to automatically use the default account configured in the journal | ||
| 2014-02-06 21:31 <buxy> how can I select the account to use for the payment ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:07 <cedk> buxy: it is the one of the journal | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:08 <buxy> cedk: so I need one journal for each bank account and even one for the credit-card associated to my bank account? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:09 <cedk> buxy: bank account is normally managed by statement and not manual pay wizard | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:10 <cedk> buxy: and for supplier it will be the account_payment | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:10 <cedk> buxy: account payment to generate payments but still the statement to book it | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:14 <buxy> cedk: you mean that if I record the payment via account_statement, it will use the account_payment configured on the party? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:14 <buxy> or were you referring to some other way to record the payment? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:17 <buxy> hum, no, the party just has accounts for payable/receivable (aka customer/supplier account, not bank account) | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:17 <cedk> buxy: there is no account_payment on party | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:18 <buxy> so where's account_payment? on the statement journal? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:21 <cedk> buxy: what is "account_payment" ? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:22 <buxy> cedk: you wrote "and for supplier it will be the account_payment" | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:22 <cedk> http://codereview.tryton.org/926002/ | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:34 <cedk> buxy: but it is to prepare the payment | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:35 <cedk> buxy: for example, there is also the account_payment_sepa in review | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:35 <cedk> buxy: that will allow to generate the sepa file to send to bank | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:36 <buxy> nice | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:37 <cedk> buxy: but any way, if you pay your supplier invoices by bank transfer | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:37 <cedk> buxy: you should use the account_statement to fill your bank statement | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:42 <cedk> buxy: FYI, the pay button on the invoice is really just for people who don't want to do accounting | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:43 <buxy> cedk: in that case, it should be better hidden under "actions" or something less visible because it seemed to me to be the canonical way to pay | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:43 <buxy> cedk: should I submit all such usability issues in the bug tracker? | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:45 <cedk> buxy: it was hidden but community wanted to show it any way | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:45 <cedk> buxy: despit I was not in favor | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:47 <cedk> buxy: https://bugs.tryton.org/issue2375 | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:57 <buxy> thanks for the context | ||
| 2014-02-06 22:57 <buxy> interesting read | ||
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