| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Wed Oct 2 00:00:02 CEST 2013 | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:17 <jeancavallo> cedk: Shouldn't there be a timestamp entry in form/list_gtk parser.py . | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:21 <cedk> jeancavallo: why? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:22 <jeancavallo> cedk: Well because there is one in proteus, and I have a case where the client actually looks for a timestamp widget, then crash | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:24 <cedk> jeancavallo: don't see the point to show a timestamp | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:25 <jeancavallo> cedk: The field exists so someone may want to display it. I display the ModelSQL's create_date field | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:26 <cedk> jeancavallo: not valid argument | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:27 <jeancavallo> cedk: You mean it is forbidden to display create_date ? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:28 <cedk> jeancavallo: yes | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:31 <jeancavallo> cedk: Ok. Just so I know, the Timestamp field compatible with the datetime widget ? Or should I use a function field ? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:32 <cedk> jeancavallo: not compatible, timestamp is different of a datetime | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:35 <jeancavallo> cedk: are domains comparing create_date with DateTime broken then ? http://hg.tryton.org/modules/account/file/d4e449d9a74c/move.xml#l20 | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:39 <lids> "You mean it is forbidden to display create_date ?" <- isn't it worth a bug report ? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:40 <cedk> lids: if you want but give a valid example for the need | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:40 <jeancavallo> lids: According to cedk it is intended behaviour | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:41 <jeancavallo> cedk: Though I think it might be a good thing to provide a function field on ModelSQL to allow to display create_date in a DateTime format | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:41 <lids> i'm not sure i understand everything, but displaying the creation date of a record seems legit to me | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:42 <jeancavallo> lids: The thing is, right now, the creation date is stored as a Timestamp, which is not what i'd call human-readable | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:43 <jeancavallo> lids: So displaying it requires a conversion to a Datetime | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:43 <cedk> jeancavallo: not needed there are the log information | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:43 <cedk> lids: it is not a date | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:43 <Pilou> a binary field contains not human-readable but it can be displayed when it's an image | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:44 <lids> ah, i understand the problem.. it would be great if the client could do the conversion | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:44 <cedk> lids: it is done in log popup | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:46 <Pilou> Users should be able to search, display, export create_date. Is it the case ? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:47 <cedk> Pilou: no because it is not a date | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:47 <Pilou> (lol) | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:48 <lids> well.. the log popup is not really user friendly, the information is at a different place than the other fields | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:49 <lids> what about a timestamp widget then, if the type is a problem ? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:50 <cedk> lids: useless for users | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:51 <jeancavallo> cedk: lids: I think lids is thinking about a widget which would be a datetime widget with an automatic conversion feature | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:51 <pokoli> hi all, it's possible to load Many2Many fields with search value of .xml fields? | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:51 <cedk> jeancavallo: a timestamp is not a datetime | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:52 <jeancavallo> cedk: I know that, but it may be converted to one | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:52 <cedk> jeancavallo: NO | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:52 <cedk> jeancavallo: != precision | ||
| 2013-10-02 10:54 <jeancavallo> cedk: I thoought datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp could do the trick. My bad if it does not | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:03 <lids> cedk: syntax error | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:05 <Pilou> There are use cases for which the precision of timestamp is sufficient. As there are use cases where Float is sufficient (compared to Numeric). | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:07 <Pilou> By default, Tryton should not hide (nor make it difficult to access) informations: 'create_date' should be accessible as other fields. | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:18 <cedk> Pilou: patch is welcome | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:18 <Pilou> as always :) | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:18 <cedk> Pilou: but it should work with any precision type of timestamp of all the database | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:19 <cedk> Pilou: you just say fuzy generality instead of talking about real use case | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:20 <Pilou> really ? | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:26 <Pilou> A 'power user' want compute some statistics about some records created by users. He also wants to known how many records are created by year / month / week. He wants export these records with create_date and do some processing using LibreOffice. | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:28 <cedk> Pilou: no need of timestamp, just define a date field | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:28 <Pilou> no need of date field, there is create_date | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:29 <cedk> Pilou: I don't thing LibreOffice recognise the timestamp as ??? but a date yes | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:29 <cedk> Pilou: moreover those technical field are always the wrong data source for business interpretation | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:40 <Pilou> The power user would user something like "=A1/86400+DATEVAL("1/1/1970")" | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:40 <cedk> Pilou: patch is welcome | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:41 <cedk> Pilou: looks like you are not one of those | ||
| 2013-10-02 11:43 <Pilou> what do you mean ? | ||
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| 2013-10-02 15:27 <pokoli> Hi, I have the following error while updating a module http://pastebin.com/EqkYJkBG | ||
| 2013-10-02 15:27 <pokoli> The strange thing is that the module works perfectly if you install it, but you get this error when updating it | ||
| 2013-10-02 15:28 <pokoli> could someone open my mind? | ||
| 2013-10-02 15:30 <cedk> pokoli: probably res is not a dependency of the module | ||
| 2013-10-02 15:32 <pokoli> cedk: thanks! That solved the problem :D | ||
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