IRC logs of #tryton for Tuesday, 2012-05-22

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue May 22 00:00:01 CEST 2012
2012-05-22 00:00 <cedk> by the way, I'm reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Everyday_Things
2012-05-22 00:00 <cedk> great to think about those things
2012-05-22 00:01 <grasbauer1> cedk: ok - i wasn't thinking in the usecase to create a record in the resulting view - but to know that creating a new record in the resulting view will create a related record is to much advanced for the most users
2012-05-22 00:02 <cedk> I don't like when people think users are not smart
2012-05-22 00:04 <grasbauer1> cedk: I never think that users are not smart. I think there are users not interested in software ...
2012-05-22 00:06 <cedk> grasbauer1: if he needs it, he will find it and use it
2012-05-22 00:08 <grasbauer1> cedk: but I'm impressed every day about the issues I have to solve at the phone. Tryton is not working - and it has killed the internet as well - because a cannot see a webpage ...
2012-05-22 00:09 <grasbauer1> cedk: thats a daily discussion with my customers: if you want tu use the advantages of software, you have to know something - else take paper and pencil
2012-05-22 00:10 <cedk> grasbauer1: so you see that user doesn't trust the software
2012-05-22 00:10 <grasbauer1> cedk: yes - but in that case I don't agree
2012-05-22 00:12 <grasbauer1> cedk: today i saw people using the relate button to investigate the condition of relations
2012-05-22 00:13 <grasbauer1> cedk: but you are right - there are other ways to show that to the client - states for example
2012-05-22 00:15 <grasbauer1> cedk: its a big country talking about usability - but interesting
2012-05-22 00:16 <grasbauer1> cedk: i'll go to update the server to 2.4 now - everybody is sleeping now
2012-05-22 00:54 <pilou> grasbauer1: i have build a tryton client with pygtk 2.24.2: i can do some tests if needed
2012-05-22 00:56 <grasbauer1> pilou: we had some trouble on windows with copy and paste - 2.42,2 seems to fix it
2012-05-22 01:32 <grasbauer1> pilou: did you test it with different windows boxes?
2012-05-22 01:34 <pilou> different windows versions ?
2012-05-22 01:34 <grasbauer1> pilou: yes
2012-05-22 01:35 <pilou> yep: builed and tested on windows vista, tested on windows XP SP3
2012-05-22 01:35 <grasbauer1> pilou: ok
2012-05-22 01:37 <grasbauer1> pilou: because don't know what is the result if i build a client on windows 7 64bit - that's the only windows version i have handy
2012-05-22 01:37 <pilou> build and tests systems are 32bits
2012-05-22 01:40 <grasbauer1> pilou: our client has all windows since 1973 in use - so I'm a bit afraid to rollout it tommorrow with my 64bit build. don't know if it could end in trouble ....
2012-05-22 01:42 <grasbauer1> but i have installed only 32bit versions of all the packages - but no idea about the internals - even don't know what bit means :-D
2012-05-22 01:44 <grasbauer1> pilou: can you provide a link with your build?
2012-05-22 02:29 <pilou> grasbauer1: yep, in few minutes
2012-05-22 02:29 <grasbauer1> pilou: thanks
2012-05-22 03:17 <pilou> grasbauer1: uploaded here: http://git.bioecoforests.com/tryton-win32.tar.bz2
2012-05-22 03:18 <grasbauer1> pilou: many thanks!
2012-05-22 03:20 <pilou> grasbauer1: c runtime dll are not included, you need to install http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29
2012-05-22 03:21 <grasbauer1> pilou: thanks - i know - i have already this dlls
2012-05-22 08:36 <grasbauer1> hi
2012-05-22 08:37 <grasbauer1> i was setting the missing cost_price and list_prices yesterday with proteus - today theay are all gone. what happens here?
2012-05-22 09:25 -!- andreasgrab(~andreas@2001:15c0:662b:6:223:18ff:fe99:3e8f) has left #tryton
2012-05-22 10:32 <SISalp1> hello
2012-05-22 10:32 <SISalp1> cedk: set_xml( http://username:password@myhost:port) gives invalid syntax error on ":"
2012-05-22 10:43 <SISalp1> cedk: added quotes and reach the server
2012-05-22 10:43 <SISalp1> ok so far
2012-05-22 10:46 <cedk> SISalp1: it must be a string
2012-05-22 10:55 <SISalp1> and where is database name ?
2012-05-22 10:55 <SISalp1> if it already exists ?
2012-05-22 10:59 <SISalp1> cedk: I mean username and password are related to a database aren't they ?
2012-05-22 11:03 <cedk> SISalp1: yes
2012-05-22 11:03 <cedk> SISalp1: be careful to correctly escape it
2012-05-22 11:04 <SISalp1> I created a database from the client, then try to set xmlrpc to it
2012-05-22 11:06 <SISalp1> and get connection refused
2012-05-22 11:12 <cedk> SISalp1: is it listening for xmlrpc?
2012-05-22 11:13 <SISalp1> it is supposed to be : s101.tryton-online.com port 8229
2012-05-22 11:14 <SISalp1> unauthorized
2012-05-22 11:15 <cedk> SISalp1: at least there is a http server running on it :-)
2012-05-22 11:15 <SISalp1> yop
2012-05-22 11:16 <cedk> SISalp1: oops, you miss the database in the url
2012-05-22 11:17 <SISalp1> good, we agree
2012-05-22 11:18 <SISalp1> but no idea where to put it
2012-05-22 11:19 <SISalp1> hostname:port/db_name !!! got it
2012-05-22 11:19 <SISalp1> :p
2012-05-22 11:20 <SISalp1> ":"p
2012-05-22 11:21 <SISalp1> our first stone to the pyramid, thank you for your help
2012-05-22 12:11 <grasbauer1> ACTION 2.4 seems to be slower in many parts
2012-05-22 12:16 <cedk> grasbauer1: could you be more precise?
2012-05-22 12:17 <andreasgrab> MachMa43
2012-05-22 12:17 <andreasgrab> sorry
2012-05-22 12:18 <grasbauer1> cedk: no - until now its only a feeling. using a wizard for example seems more slow - i have to check if it is caused by bad design in our modules ....
2012-05-22 13:23 <cedk> grasbauer: perhaps the session storage?
2012-05-22 14:58 <grasbauer> cedk: don't know about the internals - what is stored in the session. I have clocked a simple wizard that writes 3 records to another model - it takes 19s
2012-05-22 15:03 <grasbauer> cedk: I create a project.work - could be that the creation of this model causes the problem. are there checks on creation?
2012-05-22 15:06 <grasbauer> cedk: yes - creating 1 project.work-record teakes 19s
2012-05-22 15:07 <grasbauer> cedk: i think nobody is using project.work than excessive - we hav 5894 projects already done
2012-05-22 15:11 <bechamel> grasbauer: you have only the project module or there is another one that extend it ?
2012-05-22 15:12 <grasbauer> bechamel: one moment - its a complex system
2012-05-22 15:33 <cedk> grasbauer: I don't see why creating a work takes so long
2012-05-22 15:35 <grasbauer> cedk: i have an idea - i have a relation to sale and the sale.shipment_state - this can be the reason
2012-05-22 16:44 -!- pjstevns(~pjstevns@nfg3.nfgs.net) has left #tryton
2012-05-22 16:48 <corro> My development cycle got a bit messed up with 2.4: now I have to restart my neso instance in order to reload my code. Before 2.4 it was reloaded automatically. Does someone has an advice on how to revert to the old behavior?
2012-05-22 16:49 <corro> I checked the auto_reload property btw, it's set to True
2012-05-22 16:49 <cedk> corro: you can not
2012-05-22 16:50 <corro> cedk: too bad, saved me hours before
2012-05-22 16:50 <cedk> corro: use client/server
2012-05-22 16:51 <corro> cedk: ok, will do. thx.
2012-05-22 16:51 <cedk> corro: by the way, the previous autoreload did not work correctly and was broken on 2.7
2012-05-22 19:52 <lukio> hello
2012-05-22 19:57 <pilou> grasbauer: could i remove the tryton-win32.tar.bz2 file ?
2012-05-22 19:59 <lukio> is there any way to add a logo to the company? and the use it in the header's report?
2012-05-22 20:02 <bechamel> lukio: just edit the header report and add the logo
2012-05-22 20:05 <lukio> bechamel: but i don't see how can add the logo. i don't see the field in configuraction->company.
2012-05-22 20:07 <bechamel> lukio: I talk about modules/company/header_A4.odt
2012-05-22 20:09 <lukio> bechamel: of course!
2012-05-22 22:21 <lukio> bechamel: do u know how can i add the party name in sale report?
2012-05-22 22:23 <lukio> no problem. i add the line <sale.party.name >
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