| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Nov 5 00:00:01 CET 2011 | ||
| 2011-11-05 00:21 <hoRn> search_quantity - got it | ||
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| 2011-11-05 12:28 <sisalp> just checked service sale workflow. Tryton works well. | ||
| 2011-11-05 12:58 <cedk> sisalp: I saw your post on OE forum | ||
| 2011-11-05 12:59 <cedk> sisalp: I was wondering how to manage it in Tryton | ||
| 2011-11-05 12:59 <cedk> sisalp: I think I will adapt/check sale_supply module to also work on services | ||
| 2011-11-05 13:05 <cedk> sisalp: indeed it works correctly :-) | ||
| 2011-11-05 13:05 <cedk> sisalp: but perhaps the name: 'on_stock' is not really good when it is a service | ||
| 2011-11-05 13:06 <cedk> ACTION request for suggestion about "On Stock" supply method for services | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:20 <sisalp> cedk: there are two problems with OE | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:22 <sisalp> cedk: a user creates endless orders because a product uses some option it shouldn't, even if it makes sens: a real trap | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:23 <sisalp> second : to manage services you must add modules which contradict others | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:25 <sisalp> cedk: on_stock makes sens for stockable products | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:26 <sisalp> cedk: it should not be possible to select this value for products which cannot be stocked | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:27 <cedk> sisalp: but you can see the manpower of the company as a stock | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:28 <sisalp> cedk: manpower is a capacity but not a stock, only computer scientists can think it is the same ;-) | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:28 <sisalp> cedk: similat mechanisms can apply to both, but it is not the same | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:28 <sisalp> similar | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:29 <cedk> sisalp: that's why I'm asking for a better term | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:30 <cedk> a merge of "On Stock" and "On Task" | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:30 <sisalp> what is not on stock ? on order ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:31 <cedk> sisalp: On Purchase | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:31 <sisalp> not for sales also ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:32 <cedk> sisalp: a sale does't supply | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:32 <sisalp> ok | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:33 <sisalp> is it possible that : if product is stockable choice=Purchase|Stock, else choice=Purchase|task ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:34 <cedk> sisalp: we can not do it with selection field | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:35 <sisalp> too bad | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:35 <sisalp> would "From Scheduler" be correct ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:37 <sisalp> does "On" means "originated by" ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:44 <Telesight> Although a service can not be put on the shelf, you can make preparations for the service to be sold (i.e: creating documents) at that moment these service parts are on stock. | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:44 <cedk> sisalp: "On" comes from "Supply On ..." | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:45 <cedk> Telesight: come on, you don't take care of the stock for paper | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:46 <Telesight> cedk: I mean digital documents ;-) | ||
| 2011-11-05 15:56 <Telesight> The problem is that a service may exists out of different parts (intake, design etc) and hours made at a clients place. The first you can create earlier/before the real sale is made. You made hours for these parts (so they have a value) and you create something for it (where to stock?) | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:03 <cedk> Telesight: you don't sale hours based on timesheet with sale orders | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:15 <sisalp> cedk: does "Supply On ..." mean "Supply originated by..." ? or "Supply which will be directed to..." ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:16 <cedk> sisalp: I don't understand | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:18 <sisalp> On is one of these word like "sur" in French which means many different things : on a wall, on demand, on behalf, on/off..., so whic one here ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:18 <cedk> sisalp: it says, the sale line product will be supply/ | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:18 <cedk> sisalp: it says, the sale line product will be supply on purchase | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:19 <cedk> or on stock | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:20 <cedk> sisalp: in french: "Approvisioner par le stock" ou "Approvisioner par achat" | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:21 <sisalp> the sale line will supplied by a purchase | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:23 <sisalp> so it's clearer for me : get_from_stock, buy_it | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:24 <cedk> sisalp: not for me, because buy_it is valid for both | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:24 <sisalp> if it is in stock it cannot be bought again, I think | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:25 <sisalp> I'm not proposing a solution, I just think I now understand what it meant | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:26 <cedk> sisalp: but perhaps it is not in stock, so it will be buy | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:26 <sisalp> you mean that if there is not enough in stock, it will be bought | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:26 <cedk> sisalp: yes | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:27 <sisalp> but will if go through stock before being assigned to this order ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:28 <sisalp> it | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:31 <cedk> sisalp: yes in any cases (except drop shipping) | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:32 <sisalp> the purchase order will be generated from the stock rules (min/max/qty) isn't ? independently from the order ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:32 <cedk> sisalp: yes | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:34 <sisalp> will the purchase order be separate in case of On_purchase, or will it be grouped with other needs (other orders or stock rules) ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:35 <cedk> sisalp: On purchase will generate a purchase request, so the convertion into purchase could be grouped or not | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:36 <sisalp> sounds correct | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:38 <sisalp> the fact that it will be bought in case stock is low can be understood by anybody I think | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:39 <sisalp> the salesman thinks : I consider the stock is illimited, it is not my job to provision it. Does it make sens ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 16:42 <cedk> sisalp: yes in some way | ||
| 2011-11-05 18:33 <fremo_> Yo ! is there some people going to Liège through/from Paris on the 10 or 11 ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 18:33 <fremo_> (with a not full yet car) | ||
| 2011-11-05 18:34 <cedk> fremo_: I think you will have better result if you ask on the mailing list | ||
| 2011-11-05 18:35 <fremo_> cedk: you right, I will ;) | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:20 <vahid_> hi all | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:21 <vahid_> i install tryton in pip with pip install tryton trytond ... command | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:22 <vahid_> and run tryton in command line, how connect to local databse ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:22 <cedk> vahid_: you must configure it | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:23 <cedk> vahid_: follow https://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/SetupAndStart | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:25 <vahid_> in localhost port 8000 not open | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:25 <vahid_> how open it? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:25 <vahid_> run trytond | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:27 <vahid_> cedk: this page error 403 :( | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:27 <cedk> vahid_: you must connect with the client | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:28 <vahid_> cedk: i try connect to server with client and not respond server | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:29 <cedk> vahid_: did you create a database? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:30 <vahid_> cedk yes create it | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:30 <cedk> vahid_: how? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:32 <vahid_> cedk: in install tryton in debian repo and create db with instruction and towday remove it and try install tryton with pip | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:34 <cedk> vahid_: is the user running trytond able to connect to the database? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:34 <vahid_> cedk: in dont know | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:35 <vahid_> cedk: when run trytond : ImportError: No module named psycopg2.pool | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:36 <cedk> vahid_: so it misses psycopg2 module | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:37 <vahid_> cedk: how install it? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:38 <vahid_> cedk: install psycopg2 :) | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:38 <vahid_> cedk: tanks | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:40 <vahid_> vahid_: this step freez trytond : server:waiting for connections... | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:43 <cedk> vahid_: it is normal, now the server is waiting for connection | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:46 <vahid_> cedk: database: couldnot conncet to the server | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:49 <plantian> vahid_: Did you leave server running in one console and start another console for the client? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:50 <vahid_> plantian: yes | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:54 <plantian> vahid_: I guess maybe the database does not exist yet, did you follow the directions on creating the database through client ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:55 <vahid_> plantian: i create it now | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:55 <vahid_> plantian: what tryton server password? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:56 <vahid_> plantian: Can't create the database, caused by an unknown reason. | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:57 <plantian> vahid_: Maybe admin by default. | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:57 <plantian> vahid_: Is there any message outputted by the server? | ||
| 2011-11-05 20:59 <vahid_> plantian: when create new databse this mmessage genrated | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:00 <vahid_> plantian: Error message: | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:00 <vahid_> could not connect to server: No such file or directory | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:04 <vahid_> how create db | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:06 <vahid_> :( | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:07 <cedk> vahid_: it seems that the user can not connect to the database | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:07 <cedk> vahid_: or the database connection is not correctly configured | ||
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| 2011-11-05 21:10 <vahid_> cedk: the port 8000 open in localhost and db passwd is admin | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:11 <vahid_> cedk: when create db trytond say : ERROR:database:CREATE DB: test failed | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:11 <vahid_> ERROR:database:Exception in call: | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:13 <cedk> vahid_: yes it is a database connection issue | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:20 <Telesight> To install the Tryton client on Ubuntu 11.10 I have to go to the directory "client " in the terminal and type: sudo python setup.py install , isn it? | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:21 <cedk> Telesight: yes, it is a way | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:21 <cedk> Telesight: but isn't Ubuntu has a package | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:22 <Telesight> cedk: ok yes stupid ... | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:23 <cedk> Telesight: mixin setup install and packages in such distribution are often trouble | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:24 <Telesight> cedk: I was so focused on the terminal that I forgot the rest of the world ;-) | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:27 <Telesight> cedk: The package manager shows me only version tryton-client 2.0.1 and I need version 2.2 for the client. | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:29 <cedk> Telesight: Debian guys did not yet update the packages | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:31 <Telesight> cedk: Lazy guys ... just when you need something ... | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:33 <cedk> Telesight: they are there | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:33 <cedk> yangoon, dba: ping | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:37 <Telesight> cedk: Back to the terminal. When I type this I get the error: /client$ python setup.py install | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:37 <Telesight> Traceback (most recent call last): | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:37 <Telesight> File "setup.py", line 5, in <module> | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:37 <Telesight> from setuptools import setup, find_packages | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:37 <Telesight> ImportError: No module named setuptools | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:39 <cedk> Telesight: you must install the setuptools module | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:39 <Telesight> cedk: I tried to install setuptools but I only found python3-setuptools and this does not work. | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:39 <dba> i guess yangoon or me will update to 2.2 soon (next week). | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:39 <cedk> dba: ok | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:39 <cedk> dba: any news about debian.tryton.org ? | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:40 <dba> Telesight: 'lazy guys' is totally uncalled for and absolutely out of line. | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:40 <dba> cedk: the 'linux-container' sub-package of lxc, which is the last bit i need for setting up stuff, just passed new this morning. | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:41 <dba> cedk: i can now start on monday doing the actual move (from the old server to the new, which will host d.t.o) | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:41 <cedk> dba: it is funny, for the first time OpenBSD is faster on packaging than Debian :-) http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/productivity/tryton/trytond/ | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:42 <dba> well, the required repackaging we have to do for debian doesn't help in that regard. | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:42 <cedk> dba: repackaging? | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:42 <dba> which reminds me that i should follow up on the list at some point with the outstanding license/source issues once i've | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:43 <dba> looked at the current 2.2 stuff. | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:43 <Telesight> dba: That was of course a joke, I am working on a How to and than one want to speed up to finish it. No offence ... ;-) | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:45 <cedk> Telesight: i think instead of setuptools, you can install distribute | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:50 <Telesight> cedk: Well at least, this does not work: sudo apt-get install python3-setuptools | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:50 <cedk> Telesight: no you need python2 | ||
| 2011-11-05 21:57 <Telesight> cedk: Yes this helps, thanks: sudo apt-get install python-setuptools | ||
| 2011-11-05 22:02 <Telesight> test1234 | ||
| 2011-11-05 22:07 <Telesight> dba: Version 2.2 of the client for Ubuntu will be available next week? Great thanks, I will take this in account. | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:24 <pickle_> Hi all... does anyone here know the status of the 2.2 demo server? | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:26 <cedk> pickle_: it must be up | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:27 <cedk> pickle_: it works I just connect to it | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:27 <pickle_> cedk: Looks up and working, but it looks like it's missing module to me - I am a n00b though to Tryton (I've been living in the Dynamics AX world for the last 6 years)... | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:28 <cedk> pickle_: you can install any modules you want on it | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:28 <pickle_> cedk: Oh really? Err, woops :) Sorry, maybe I should keep digging :) | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:28 <cedk> pickle_: we started to use a script to generate demo data, but it is not yet fully complet | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:28 <cedk> pickle_: so there is only few modules installed | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:29 <pickle_> cedk: Ahh okay, would the 2.0 demo be more complete? | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:29 <cedk> pickle_: more modules installed by default | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:31 <pickle_> cedk: Ok perfect, I'll take a look - just hoping to get a feel for the system and its capabilities before trying to install anything - I'm shopping for a client :) | ||
| 2011-11-05 23:31 <pickle_> cedk: Thanks for your help :) |
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