| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Oct 10 00:00:02 CEST 2011 | ||
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| 2011-10-10 11:35 <Pander> Hi all, how can I change the date format for the Tryton client? | ||
| 2011-10-10 11:45 <nicoe> The date is linked to the user preferences | ||
| 2011-10-10 11:45 <nicoe> Update his language the date will follow | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:43 <hoRn> This morning I discussed a possible redesign of tryton.org with a designer. His first fundamental question: if black is the first color, a second must be choosen. so we build a quick and dirty playground for trying some additionals colors: if you like you can play with it ;) http://cms.grasbauer.com/cms/tryton?color=74AC13 | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:44 <Pander> My Tryton client only offers English as language to select while Administration/Localization/Languages show more languages. How can I enable more language in the Prefereces... so I can get another date format? | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:46 <Pander> hoRn: Nice! Do you know the image in the header has a reddish hue over it? Perhaps also alter that in accordance with the second color. | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:49 <hoRn> Pander: good idea - but it needs work with transparency in the logo I guess - I took the image as is ... | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:55 <udono> Pander: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/UserFAQ#How_to_change_the_language? | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:55 <Pander> hoRn: as for the colors, the green and blue may be a bit darker to put some more weight in the scale, the red perhaps a bit less bright. You could perhaps also put some gradients on the button in the navigation menu bar to offer some more subletties. weel my 2 cents.. | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:56 <bechamel> hoRn: There are really nice website without any second color : http://www.apple.com/ipod/ | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:56 <hoRn> Pander: the gradient can be put after a second color was found | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:58 <bechamel> IMO the main problem with the current colors is that it's too dark | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:59 <hoRn> bechamel: this was a opinion of a designer - he said: if you have a lot of pictures, use less colors - if you you have more textual content choose a fresh second color | ||
| 2011-10-10 13:59 <bechamel> I like the layout you proposed but I would switch the white logo on black bg to a black logo on white bg | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:00 <hoRn> bechamel: that isn't a design ;) - where can i find a eps of the logo? | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:01 <bechamel> hoRn: let me check | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:01 <hoRn> bechamel: it was only a quick fork of our webpage to test some colors | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:03 <bechamel> hoRn: there is an svg here https://bugs.tryton.org/issue1996 | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:03 <bechamel> hoRn: I can provide other stuff later when I get back home if you want | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:05 <hoRn> bechamel: ok - but I think it's anoug for playing around ... | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:17 <hoRn> bechamel: so the black isn't set as default look for tryton? | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:20 <bechamel> hoRn: IMO swithing the logo for black on white instead of white on black is a less radical change than choosing a new secondary color | ||
| 2011-10-10 14:22 <hoRn> bechamel: ok | ||
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| 2011-10-10 17:37 <hoRn> cedk: ping | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:40 <cedk> hoRn: pong | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:42 <hoRn> cedk: I'm trying to get a sphinx-output using the build.py from repo, no luck | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:43 <hoRn> cedk: seems that the script is made for a other structure in the repo? | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:44 <bechamel> hoRn: was the error msg ? | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:45 <bechamel> s/was/what's | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:45 <hoRn> bechamel: No such file or directory: XXXX/branches/1.0 | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:46 <bechamel> hoRn: sorry I have to go | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:49 <cedk> hoRn: you are using doc.tryton.org ? | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:49 <hoRn> cedk: yes | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:49 <cedk> hoRn: normally it must download every series | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:50 <cedk> hoRn: but I did not run it since 6 months | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:50 <hoRn> cedk: ;) | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:51 <hoRn> cedk: ok - i will download a example for the mock-up, no worries | ||
| 2011-10-10 17:55 <cedk> hoRn: I think it is better to start from scratch the sphinx template and not try to reuse the doc one | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:23 <bechamel> yangoon: about https://bugs.tryton.org/issue1996 I checked on my other laptop and I haven't found anything. I think we have no "source" for it | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:24 <cedk> bechamel: the source is the png | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:25 <bechamel> cedk: it's a collage of two image, but I don't know if it was made with inkscape or gimp | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:26 <bechamel> cedk: but I don't remember working on it, so probably you created it with gimp | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:26 <cedk> bechamel: it will be insane to do it in inkscape | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:27 <bechamel> cedk: inkscape > gimp | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:27 <cedk> bechamel: different usage | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:52 <udono> bechamel: hi, I guess yangoon misses the source file for the image of Neptunes planet Triton | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:56 <cedk> udono: come on, this is not source file | ||
| 2011-10-10 20:57 <cedk> udono: do we need to provide the source files of OpenERP because the code comes from there? | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:03 <udono> cedk: As I told, I just guessed. But I was not precise, I guess yangoon misses _a link to_ the source file for the image of Neptunes planet Triton. Sorry about this. | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:04 <udono> cedk: bechamel: But Iam not sure about this. | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:05 <cedk> udono bechamel: I don't remember the license of the picture but I think it was domain public | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:37 <bechamel> udono: as you said on the bugtracker, the image comes from the nasa | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:37 <cedk> bechamel: do you remember the license | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:38 <bechamel> cedk: not really, I check | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:40 <bechamel> cedk: http://www.nasa.gov/audience/formedia/features/MP_Photo_Guidelines.html | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:40 <bechamel> cedk: this says that images are not copyrighted | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:41 <bechamel> udono: ^ | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:41 <bechamel> but there is also this sentence: "NASA should be acknowledged as the source of the material except in cases of advertising" | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:42 <bechamel> so maybe whe should add something on the website footer and somewhere in the client repo | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:44 <cedk> bechamel: in http://www.nasa.gov/audience/formedia/features/Advertising_Guidelines.html | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:44 <cedk> bechamel: it is said that most of images are in public domain | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:45 <cedk> bechamel: I think the "not copyrighted" is enough | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:48 <bechamel> cedk: the idea is also not to have this conversation every 3 years :) | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:50 <cedk> bechamel: this will not prevent it | ||
| 2011-10-10 21:53 <udono> bechamel: good idea :-) | ||
| 2011-10-10 22:07 <udono> bechamel: cedk: It won't hurt us when we name the source of the photo. | ||
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| 2011-10-10 22:08 <bechamel> udono: I propose to do it on the website footer | ||
| 2011-10-10 22:10 <udono> bechamel: was it ftp://public.sos.noaa.gov/astronomy/triton/media/thumbnail_big.jpg ? | ||
| 2011-10-10 22:14 <bechamel> udono: yes | ||
| 2011-10-10 22:22 <cedk> bechamel: why on the website? | ||
| 2011-10-10 22:24 <bechamel> cedk: because the moon also appear on the website | ||
| 2011-10-10 22:24 <cedk> bechamel: so there is two possibilies, it is required to do it so we must do it everywhere or it is not required and let as it is | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:08 <yangoon> bechamel: cedk udono thanks for looking into it | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:10 <yangoon> my point with https://bugs.tryton.org/issue1996 is, that software (or whatever) under GPL-3 has to be delivered with its sources in the most appropraite way, so that the downloader can work the same with it as the creator | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:11 <yangoon> that is what is meant by 'preferred form of the work for making modifications to it' AFAIs | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:12 <bechamel> yangoon: in this case, the source is the two separate images | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:12 <yangoon> so I didn#t care primarily about the license of the NASA picture (which is another issue), but soleley at the picture in tryton | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:13 <yangoon> bechamel: usually if you provide png, which is created by gimp, you will provide the *.xcf | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:13 <yangoon> because xcf is the standard working format in gimp | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:17 <bechamel> yangoon: yes I see, but there is no xcf for it. iirc it was made in 2 min: open gimp, import files, save as, close gimp. | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:24 <yangoon> bechamel: hopefully dba can give me some input, he is much more experienced in such questions | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:55 <cedk> yangoon: png is a source file | ||
| 2011-10-10 23:58 <cedk> yangoon: otherwise if you follow your reasoning, we should also provide the source of voyager that took the picture of the moon |
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