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| 2011-08-22 10:31 <cedk> udono: is there any codereview for the POS? | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:37 <udono> cedk: just an older one, with less community participation: http://codereview.tryton.org/38002/. Maybe reichlich will upload again? | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:42 <cedk> udono: it is because I just had a look at what he does and I get some remarks | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:43 <cedk> udono: it is a pity that he did not communicate more | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:43 <udono> cedk: ? | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:45 <cedk> udono: last stuff I saw was an old codereview | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:46 <cedk> udono: now I see he wrote a pos_sale module, a pos in QT etc. | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:47 <udono> cedk: pos_sale module is new to me. | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:47 <cedk> udono: I did not see any talk on mailing list about that | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:48 <udono> cedk: reichlich writes his blog http://pokereichlich.blogspot.com/ he has a repository from the beginning http://hg.holtzberg.de/ | ||
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| 2011-08-22 10:49 <cedk> udono: perhaps but I have the feeling he worked out of the community | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:58 <udono> cedk: Yes maybe, but with me, his mentor, he is in communication. | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:58 <cedk> udono: blog post is not a good communication way for a community | ||
| 2011-08-22 10:58 <cedk> udono: there was some design choice that should have been discussed | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:00 <udono> cedk: yes maybe. We all have now an opinion what GSoC means and how to handle a project, mentor a student, etc. We maybe should collect some guidelines for the next time. | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:00 <cedk> udono: for now, it is far from being "includable" in main | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:02 <cedk> udono: for sure | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:03 <udono> cedk: I can understand it was hard for him, because of the steady changing base. There where many changes in the tryton client last months impossible to plan and develop a POS mode based on it. Removing NETRPC protocol => Rewrite of the synchonization module, etc. | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:06 <cedk> udono: that's false, changing the protocol should be transparent if the software is well designed | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:06 <udono> cedk: That's true, but I can not see your notes on this: http://codereview.tryton.org/38002/ | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:08 <cedk> udono: I did on an other one | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:09 <cedk> udono: I'm not sure I received an email for this one (perhaps the old bug that was not sending to mailing list) | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:13 <udono> cedk: I think we mentors have not be strong enough in the beginning, to shrink the project to something which is solvable in the given time. But for me reichlich did a good choice with producing a functional showcase. I am sure he will work on this topic after the End of GSoC. | ||
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| 2011-08-22 11:15 <cedk> udono: that's not the point of my remarks, for sure he has worked | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:15 <udono> cedk: what is your Point? | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:16 <cedk> udono: communication and community participation | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:16 <bechamel> I agree with udono that for the next gsoc we must have more discusion of the implementation at the beginning | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:17 <bechamel> this will be more clear for us and for the student | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:18 <bechamel> to better evaluate what as been done, to better know who is doing what, to anticipate problems and coordinate works | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:18 <cedk> bechamel: for sure, I realize that students are not ready to work out-of-the-box :-) | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:19 <bechamel> cedk: yes and the fact that the period is finally quite short so it doesn't let us a lot of time to discuss and thing of everything | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:19 <cedk> I thought we could talk with students about implementation design but it doesn't seem to be really doable | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:20 <bechamel> cedk: it's already diffcult between us ;) | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:21 <bechamel> we are learning every day :) | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:22 <cedk> bechamel: yes but I think they will be more proactive | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:22 <udono> cedk: agree | ||
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| 2011-08-22 11:25 <cedk> next year, I think we should reduce the number of students | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:25 <udono> cedk: ... but I learned that we Trytonians try to follow a very special culture. The aspects and unwritten rules are not obvious for new people coming to the project, even when they have not worked in OS communities. | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:27 <cedk> udono: I don't understand, which rules? | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:31 <udono> cedk: ... at least all your expectations you told us in the last hour. | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:31 <cedk> udono: it is part of the rules of the GSoc | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:31 <cedk> udono: I think it is obvious that students must talk on mailing list and irc chan | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:32 <cedk> udono: and we repeat that many times | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:35 <udono> cedk: yes, but reichlich_ did talk to you and to me when he needs help. If he has something to announce he uses his blog. | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:35 <cedk> bechamel, udono: I also discover that most of the students was working on their own and have difficulty to work in community | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:35 <bechamel> cedk: OTOH, must of the discussion about fodt was on the french irc or by private mail | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:36 <cedk> udono: yes exactly the issue, the GSoC is not about working alone and just have mentor for help but it is about being part of the community | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:36 <udono> cedk: True. And that's the failure of all mentors. We did not include them into the project. | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:36 <cedk> bechamel: yes the student doesn't want to speak english here and indeed it was difficult to communicate with him | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:38 <bechamel> me and dfamorato did communicate a lot on irc | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:38 <bechamel> but a bit late in the process imo | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:39 <bechamel> next year rule: the mentor and the student must not share the same langage (except english) ! | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:40 <cedk> bechamel: or at least, don't allow to speak on other chan | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:41 <cedk> udono: perhaps but also of the students, I think being part of OS community is a personal engagement | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:43 <cedk> I personnaly send frequently email to my student to get news, asking about irc communication etc. but I did not get many answers | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:44 <cedk> also I was expecting from students to know a little bit about VCS and being able to use codereview but it seems to be too much asking | ||
| 2011-08-22 11:45 <cedk> one difficulty is perhaps because we want high quality | ||
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| 2011-08-22 12:38 <cedk> udono: your patches don't apply | ||
| 2011-08-22 12:38 <cedk> udono: I guess it is because you use the git diff format | ||
| 2011-08-22 12:41 <cedk> udono: indeed it is because you edited the patch instead of generating a new one with the right commit | ||
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| 2011-08-22 12:43 <udono> cedk: ups. Ok, I generate new ones, sorry. I tested it local and it works, when editing the patch. | ||
| 2011-08-22 12:45 <cedk> udono: I apply the patches with --exact options otherwise you will have your local repository diverging | ||
| 2011-08-22 12:45 <udono> cedk: so I make new patches? | ||
| 2011-08-22 12:48 <cedk> udono: yes | ||
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| 2011-08-22 19:17 <cedk> meanmicio: hi, is the LRU patch improved the memory usage? | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:19 <meanmicio> cedk: hi, I haven't tried yet. I'm finishing the Spanish translation. Hopefully tonight I will finish :-) | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:20 <cedk> meanmicio: ok | ||
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| 2011-08-22 19:50 <meanmicio> cedk: I'm going to create a new DB now to check some translations. In 2.0.1, which file was the one to patch in 2.0.1 ? I can check the memory issue now | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:51 <cedk> meanmicio: http://hg.tryton.org/trytond/rev/0f95dd4eec16 | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:52 <dfamorato_> cedk: ping | ||
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| 2011-08-22 19:53 <cedk> dfamorato: pong | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:53 <dfamorato> cedk: Hi... I saw the review about my latest patch | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:54 <dfamorato> cedk: by your comment here ( http://codereview.tryton.org/90001/diff/8001/bin/xmlpipe2_trytond#newcode50 ) I understood that you don't want me to stream to stdio | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:56 <cedk> dfamorato: yes I want to be able to call the method through the any rpc protocol | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:57 <cedk> dfamorato: like that you can use proteus | ||
| 2011-08-22 19:59 <dfamorato> cedk: the problem with the same is when you have too many records, storing in memory will make it run out of memory | ||
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| 2011-08-22 20:02 <cedk> dfamorato: so paging | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:02 <dfamorato> cedk: yes.. i dit write a todo for that | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:03 <dfamorato> cedk: but here is my question, can you please give an example of when this would be required ? | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:04 <dfamorato> cedk: I am trying very hard to try finding a use case | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:04 <dfamorato> cedk: but could not come up with one still | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:05 <cedk> dfamorato: If I put the sphinx server on an other hosts | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:06 <dfamorato> cedk: well, you could run tryon from that server too (without daemon) but yes i understand. But even then proteus would not work in an iterative way | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:07 <dfamorato> cedk: Because then we have to handle pagination, network conectivity errors and so on | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:09 <cedk> dfamorato: indeed it is simple to do pagination | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:09 <cedk> dfamorato: you just have to process records ordered by date | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:09 <cedk> dfamorato: and store as last_updated the date of the last record processed | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:10 <cedk> dfamorato: and you put a limit on the search | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:11 <dfamorato> cedk: ok then, i will see what can i come up with and push to code review | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:12 <cedk> dfamorato: is sphinx consume on the fly the XML? | ||
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| 2011-08-22 20:20 <meanmicio> cedk : had some issues with the patch for 2.0.1, I just copied the whole revision for the server | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:21 <meanmicio> cedk : but it looks that I also need to update the client now | ||
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| 2011-08-22 20:33 <meanmicio> cedk : I'm going to use the latest hg revision | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:46 <cedk> meanmicio: becareful that it will require some update of the code, like the Pool etc. | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:46 <cedk> meanmicio: normally you should be able to apply the patch or at least redo it in 2.0 | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:47 <meanmicio> cedk : some portions of the patch were rejected.... at least we can check the load of the DB now... then I drop it back | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:49 <meanmicio> is loading it now... | ||
| 2011-08-22 20:50 <dfamorat_> cedk: ping | ||
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| 2011-08-22 21:05 <ndn_pit> hello | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:05 <ndn_pit> I have a problem | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:05 <ndn_pit> with states={'readonly': Bool(Eval('active_id'))} | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:07 <ndn_pit> is it right? | ||
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| 2011-08-22 21:30 <ndn_pit> please help me | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:30 <ndn_pit> ? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:34 <cedk> dfamorato: pong | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:34 <cedk> ndn_pit: it depends on what you use this statement | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:34 <ndn_pit> what I want? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:36 <ndn_pit> I want: my field was readonly only on edit form, but not in create form | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:37 <ndn_pit> someone told me that I can use readonly states with id | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:37 <ndn_pit> but it is not work | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:38 <cedk> ndn_pit: active_id is not define | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:38 <ndn_pit> but id is not work too | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:38 <ndn_pit> as active_id | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:38 <cedk> ndn_pit: you must use something like: Bool(Greater(Eval('id', -1), 0)) | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:38 <cedk> ndn_pit: record has always an id, but it is negative if not saved | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:39 <ndn_pit> thank you | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:39 <ndn_pit> very mach | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:39 <ndn_pit> second problem^ | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:39 <ndn_pit> : | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:39 <ndn_pit> I create model | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:41 <ndn_pit> with 2 fields: Char and Selection (both of them required=True), when I try to change view mode tryton always says me that data was changed, "do you want save them before?" | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:42 <ndn_pit> I had not ever seen this problem | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:43 <cedk> ndn_pit: are you displaying create_date or write_date? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:43 <ndn_pit> no | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:43 <cedk> ndn_pit: is you default value for Selection fields correct? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:44 <ndn_pit> my fields are: name, month... if it helps | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:44 <ndn_pit> model has not default value | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:45 <cedk> ndn_pit: but is your Selection fields has a value for False? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <ndn_pit> can i show my code for this model? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <cedk> meanmicio: good keep me in touch | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <cedk> ndn_pit: use a copy/paste service like pastebin | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <ndn_pit> from trytond.model import ModelView, ModelSQL, fields | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <ndn_pit> from trytond.pyson import Not, Bool, Eval, Equal | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <ndn_pit> class TabelMonth(ModelView, ModelSQL): | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:46 <ndn_pit> 'Tabel Mounth' | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <cedk> ndn_pit: don't copy/paste in the chan | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> _name = 'slt.hr.tabel_month' | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> _description = __doc__ | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> name = fields.Char('Name', required=True) | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> mnth = fields.Selection([ | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> (1, 'January'), | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> (2, 'February'), | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> (3, 'March'), | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> ], 'Month', sort=False, required=True) | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> TabelMonth() | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <meanmicio> ced: 800 MB | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:47 <ndn_pit> sry | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:48 <cedk> ndn_pit: the issue is that you don't have a default value for mnth | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:48 <cedk> meanmicio: and before? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:48 <meanmicio> cedk : pretty much the same | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:49 <ndn_pit> is it required? why should I have to have default value? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:50 <cedk> ndn_pit: because the field can have only 3 value, so the client will set one then it considere that the value of the field has changed | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:50 <cedk> meanmicio: what is the size of the XML | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:51 <ndn_pit> and I don't understand how to copy/paste? | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:51 <cedk> ndn_pit: http://pastebin.com/ | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> from trytond.model import ModelView, ModelSQL, fields | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> from trytond.pyson import Not, Bool, Eval, Equal | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> class TabelMonth(ModelView, ModelSQL): | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> 'Tabel Mounth' | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> _name = 'slt.hr.tabel_month' | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> _description = __doc__ | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> name = fields.Char('Name', required=True) | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> mnth = fields.Selection([ | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:52 <ndn_pit> (1, 'January'), | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <ndn_pit> (2, 'February'), | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <ndn_pit> (3, 'March'), | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <ndn_pit> ], 'Month', sort=False, required=True) | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <ndn_pit> | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <ndn_pit> TabelMonth() | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <ndn_pit> result is same sorry for flood | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <meanmicio> cedk : 3 files, each 5 MB. 72589 records | ||
| 2011-08-22 21:53 <dfamorato> cedk: My questions is about Average Cost: Is average cost on products purchase orders or on the supplier invoices? | ||
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| 2011-08-22 22:00 <cedk> dfamorato: it is on shipment | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:01 <dfamorato> cedk: on incoming shipment ? | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:01 <cedk> dfamorato: yes | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:01 <dfamorato> cedk: you mean as soon as it's received, it computes the average cost to update the product ? | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:01 <dfamorato> ACTION learned something new ! | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:04 <cedk> dfamorato: yes that why you have the purchase price in incoming shipment | ||
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| 2011-08-22 22:20 <ndn_pit> cedk: I set default value but result is same... ( | ||
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| 2011-08-22 22:23 <ndn_pit> can you list - what widgets can I use in form view? | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:28 <ndn_pit> and in what timezone you are? when I should chat in there? | ||
| 2011-08-22 22:36 <ndn_pit> are you here? | ||
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| 2011-08-22 23:08 <meanmicio> cedk: ping | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:08 <cedk> meanmicio: pong | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:09 <meanmicio> cedk : I'm loading again the db load with the 2.0.1 server. Will send you the exact mem consumption, so we can compare | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:10 <cedk> meanmicio: ok | ||
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| 2011-08-22 23:19 <sharoon> cedk: is it your birthday today ? | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:19 <cedk> sharoon: yes | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:19 <sharoon> cedk: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:19 <cedk> sharoon: thanks :-) | ||
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| 2011-08-22 23:33 <meanmicio> cedk : Today is also my son's 8th birthdate. I knew Cedric was a cool guy ! Now I know why :-) | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:34 <dfamorato> cedk: Happy Birthday !! | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:34 <dfamorato> ACTION wishes cedk Happy Birthday ! | ||
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| 2011-08-22 23:42 <cedk> thanks everybody | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:43 <meanmicio> cedk : I got the exact same results (memory-wise) in the run on 2.0.1 and in the latest hg revision. (799 MB) | ||
| 2011-08-22 23:46 <cedk> meanmicio: ok so we need to investigate further | ||
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