IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2011-04-01

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Fri Apr 1 00:00:04 CEST 2011
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2011-04-01 03:06 <alimon> hi
2011-04-01 03:10 <plantian> hey
2011-04-01 03:11 <sharoon> hi
2011-04-01 03:11 <alimon> good evening
2011-04-01 03:13 <sharoon> alimon: hi
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2011-04-01 04:47 <alimon> hi again
2011-04-01 04:48 <sharoon> alimon: do you have a question ?
2011-04-01 04:48 <alimon> sharoon: yes
2011-04-01 04:48 <sharoon> alimon: please ask!
2011-04-01 04:48 <alimon> i'm working of traslation for tryton to es_MX
2011-04-01 04:48 <alimon> i clone the repo's
2011-04-01 04:49 <alimon> and finish the client traslation
2011-04-01 04:49 <sharoon> ok
2011-04-01 04:49 <alimon> now i'm working on the server
2011-04-01 04:50 <sharoon> ok
2011-04-01 04:51 <alimon> what is the policy for put traslations in the main repo?
2011-04-01 04:52 <sharoon> if you are a known contributor and you contribute translations you usually get ssh access to repositories
2011-04-01 04:52 <alimon> ok
2011-04-01 04:52 <sharoon> but before that you could submit your translations for code review (see http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowtoContribute)
2011-04-01 04:53 <alimon> ok
2011-04-01 04:53 <sharoon> and also update the tryton-dev mailing list about the translation. We have other contributors also in es_MX and may be they will review
2011-04-01 04:54 <alimon> ok
2011-04-01 04:54 <alimon> thanks
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2011-04-01 05:31 <marcela> Hi, how upload external modules in http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton/
2011-04-01 05:31 <marcela> Hi, how upload external modules in http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton/?
2011-04-01 05:32 <sharoon> marcela: you could just ask the intuxication guys to move your repo under tryton
2011-04-01 05:33 <sharoon> marcela: they are at #intuxication in irc.freenode.net itself
2011-04-01 05:33 <marcela> thanks
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2011-04-01 10:20 <cedk> Cazou: hi, did you find some ideas interresting?
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2011-04-01 11:27 <pjstevns> Hi all, can anyone tell me what is the best way to extend a workflow in a subclass? I'm trying to extend the invoice_activity_open workflow to call a function in the subclass.
2011-04-01 11:27 <pjstevns> Simply overriding the workflow in xml doesn't seem to work...
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2011-04-01 11:44 <Cazou> cedk: I'm a qt user/developer but I always wanted to get to know GTK to see what all the fuss is about
2011-04-01 11:46 <Cazou> but I haven't properly looked at the projects yet
2011-04-01 11:46 <Cazou> came home too late yersterday and I'm in a class right now
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2011-04-01 12:02 <Cazou> cedk: and to answer your question, multiple ideas looked interresting :)
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2011-04-01 12:35 <cedk> Cazou: good don't hesitate to ask questions
2011-04-01 12:35 <cedk> Cazou: also look at the timeline for application
2011-04-01 12:35 <cedk> Cazou: you should absolutly fill applications before the ending
2011-04-01 12:36 <cedk> pjstevns: it is not good to override the activity record
2011-04-01 12:36 <cedk> pjstevns: best will be to override the method colled
2011-04-01 12:36 <cedk> s/colled/called/
2011-04-01 12:36 <pjstevns> I understand, but that eh, kind of sucks.
2011-04-01 12:36 <pjstevns> Would it be possible to use triggers in stead?
2011-04-01 12:36 <cedk> pjstevns: There is a plan to change this for something similar to on_change
2011-04-01 12:37 <cedk> pjstevns: it depends of what you want to do :-)
2011-04-01 12:38 <pjstevns> I described it in a mail to the list just now:
2011-04-01 12:38 <pjstevns> I want to update timesheet_lines connected to invoice_lines to mark them as 'billed' when the invoice is opened.
2011-04-01 12:39 <pjstevns> cedk: are triggers functional in 1.8?
2011-04-01 12:39 <Cazou> cedk: I know, I already applied for something in KDE but I'm not fond about the application I wrote...
2011-04-01 12:40 <pjstevns> cedk: I managed to install a trigger through xml, but the action_function doesn't seem to get called even though 'on_write' is true.
2011-04-01 12:40 <pjstevns> cedk: I'll dig into the trigger.py code to see what I'm missing.
2011-04-01 12:41 <Cazou> The client is pyGTK based is also the core pyGTK or just python ?
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2011-04-01 12:59 <cedk> pjstevns: yes triggers are in 1.8
2011-04-01 13:00 <cedk> Cazou: don't understand the question
2011-04-01 13:00 <pjstevns> cedk: great! somehow the condition field seems critical. Any example code of what it might look like? 'True' or 'False' won't do :-(
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2011-04-01 13:03 <cedk> pjstevns: you can look at the unittest
2011-04-01 13:03 <pjstevns> cedk: Ok. thanks
2011-04-01 13:04 <Cazou> is trytond also pyGTK dependend ?
2011-04-01 13:04 <cedk> Cazou: no only the client
2011-04-01 13:04 <Cazou> and is trytond a library (or service) that is used by tryton ?
2011-04-01 13:04 <cedk> pjstevns: there is also the wiki blueprint but not sure if it is uptodate
2011-04-01 13:04 <cedk> Cazou: yes Tryton is client/server architecture
2011-04-01 13:05 <pjstevns> cedk: I looked at it, but it doesn't include working examples.
2011-04-01 13:05 <cedk> Cazou: client without trytond is not useful :-)
2011-04-01 13:05 <pjstevns> cedk: but I'm getting there. Thanks so far.
2011-04-01 13:05 <cedk> ACTION bbl
2011-04-01 13:09 <pjstevns> cedk: it's working :-)
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2011-04-01 15:01 <Cazou> cedk: why not using CairoPlot for the different charts (pie, bars, gantt) ?
2011-04-01 15:06 <cedk> Cazou: don't know about it. Does it work in widgets?
2011-04-01 15:08 <Cazou> good question, maybe it only can generate image files
2011-04-01 15:10 <Cazou> I'm interrested in the gantt charts idea
2011-04-01 15:10 <Cazou> So, I'm looking on something to base my work on
2011-04-01 15:12 <cedk> Cazou: There is this project http://live.gnome.org/Planner
2011-04-01 15:12 <cedk> Cazou: it is in C/GTK+ and they have a Gantt widget
2011-04-01 15:12 <cedk> Cazou: I think it could be a good model
2011-04-01 15:13 <Cazou> CairoPlot is used to generate images for presentations apparently
2011-04-01 15:13 <Cazou> Well, ideas can come from multiple places too
2011-04-01 15:13 <cedk> Cazou: we adapted pycha (which looks like CairoPlot) to work inside widget
2011-04-01 15:14 <Cazou> yes, I looked into pyche
2011-04-01 15:15 <Cazou> PyCha but they don't have gantt charts
2011-04-01 15:15 <Cazou> the same kind of adaptation could be done for gantt then
2011-04-01 15:15 <cedk> Cazou: no
2011-04-01 15:16 <cedk> Cazou: but we are looking to Gantt widget which means with the display also editing
2011-04-01 15:16 <Cazou> that was my next question
2011-04-01 15:16 <Cazou> :)
2011-04-01 15:18 <Cazou> like editing the percentage done, the dependances between projects, adding/removing projects from inside the widget then ?
2011-04-01 15:19 <Cazou> moving a project start time too
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2011-04-01 15:20 <cedk> Cazou: exactly
2011-04-01 15:20 <cedk> Cazou: you should take a look at Planner it is really what we are looking for as features
2011-04-01 15:24 <Cazou> cedk: ok, I'll do that
2011-04-01 15:25 <cedk> Cazou: also you can start filling your application
2011-04-01 15:25 <cedk> Cazou: the earlier you do, the more we can review it and improve it :-)
2011-04-01 15:26 <cedk> Cazou: also you can apply for many ideas to increase the chance to be picked
2011-04-01 15:26 <Cazou> cedk: I started
2011-04-01 15:26 <Cazou> cedk: how precise should be the tentative time-line ?
2011-04-01 15:28 <Cazou> cedk: I'm trying to make sure I see how i'm gonna do the project before submitting the application
2011-04-01 15:28 <cedk> Cazou: https://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/google.com/embed?src=gsummerofcode@gmail.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK
2011-04-01 15:28 <cedk> Cazou: it ends next week
2011-04-01 15:28 <cedk> Cazou: no problem that is a good way
2011-04-01 15:33 <cedk> Cazou: if you prefer there is also #tryton-fr but we are less
2011-04-01 15:35 <Cazou> my english is that bad ? :D
2011-04-01 15:37 <cedk> Cazou: no but if it is easier for you... It is just to let you know
2011-04-01 15:43 <mhi> Hi. "Email integration" in mentioned in the feature list of the upcoming release 2.0. There is some information available about implementation details such as using twisted, POP3, IMAP... But I wonder what features email integration will provide? What is the use case?
2011-04-01 15:45 <cedk> mhi: I don't think it will be in the next release
2011-04-01 15:46 <cedk> mhi: the user case is to store email in Tryton
2011-04-01 15:48 <mhi> Why should Tryton store emails? (I just can't understand.)
2011-04-01 15:50 <mhi> I would like to see s.th. like trouble ticket support in Tryton (email -> ticket/todo/calendar -> ... -> invoice).
2011-04-01 15:51 <mhi> I'm unsure "email integration" is intended to provide this.
2011-04-01 16:08 <cedk> mhi: because in companies, everybody communicate with email
2011-04-01 16:08 <cedk> mhi: and it is bad to not being able to manage all this information in the management system
2011-04-01 16:09 <cedk> mhi: so of course tickets will be managed with this feature
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2011-04-01 16:13 <mhi> Great. This would help keeping customer related information in a single (CRM like) system.
2011-04-01 16:18 <cedk> mhi: it is a non-convential idea for an ERP but we think it will be a great feature
2011-04-01 16:18 <mhi> I haven't found any information, plans or even thoughts on dunning. The subject never came up.
2011-04-01 16:19 <sharoon> mhi: email storage and email template is already implements and is in the code review process
2011-04-01 16:20 <mhi> I really would appreciate storing information (todos, invoices, offers and communication) about customers in a single application. (communication = emails, phone calls, letters/documents)
2011-04-01 16:22 <mhi> The other way round invoices, offers and so had to be integrated into a separate CRM. But Tryton already supports some CRM functionality (sales opportunity).
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