| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Mar 19 00:00:01 CET 2011 | ||
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| 2011-03-19 15:08 <yagami_i> From what I see Tryton is very usable already, but it lacks documentation on the level that, say, the Fedora project enjoys. Are the manuals that I'm just not seeing? | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:09 <yagami_i> I don't mind wrting some, but I want to make sure I'm not: | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:09 <yagami_i> 1- Writing manuals for 1.8 if a significant change in features is coming in 2.0 *and* that release will occur in less than 6 months | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:10 <yagami_i> 2- Duplicating work that already exists. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:11 <yagami_i> And on a similar note, I'm about halfway through a Japanese translation for all modules carried at tryton.org other than the two LDAP modules. This is by count, though -- the error messages are going to take some more time. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:12 <cedk> yagami_i: all the documentation is on http://doc.tryton.org/ | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:12 <cedk> yagami_i: the release 2.0 is in about 1 month | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:13 <yagami_i> How radical is the change from the current version? (other than the move to Python3 if that is going to happen) | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:13 <cedk> yagami_i: we don't make "big bang" changes, we just improve progressly the system | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:13 <yagami_i> Cool. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:13 <yagami_i> Is 1.8 the one in the Fedora 15 repository? | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:14 <cedk> yagami_i: I don't know what is in Fedora, I don't understand the website | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:14 <yagami_i> ? | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:14 <yagami_i> ok, I'll check myself then. | ||
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| 2011-03-19 15:17 <yagami_i> Another thing I want to look in to is handing you the basic template information that comes out of setting up our first Tryton-based project. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:18 <yagami_i> As in, we will wind up with a few chart of account templates, invoices, voucher workflows, etc. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:19 <yagami_i> And we may wind up using the existing Project Manager package that is in Fedora now to render Gannt chart exports (basically, exporting a .proj inclusive of project management module information instead of a .odt in other modules) | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:27 <cedk> yagami_i: I guess it is possible to write an .proj generator | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:28 <yagami_i> It may be easier for us to do that in the short-mid term than waiting on a native gannt chart rendering engine. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:29 <yagami_i> And that is just us. We have a customer (and bottom line) to worry about. On the Tryton community end of things, it'll be fun to see what comes out of the GSoC initiative. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:29 <yagami_i> I wish I could take part in that. Those sort of events are always really interesting. (^.^) | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:34 <cedk> yagami_i: if you want to have translations in the comming 2.0, you must submit it at least 2 weeks before the release | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:35 <yagami_i> I'm translating 1.8 right now. How close will an upgraded database be to satisfying a 2.0 translation release? | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:36 <yagami_i> Either way my customer will get it, but I want to make sure the project benefits as well. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:36 <cedk> yagami_i: normally there is not too much changes | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:36 <yagami_i> I mean, we're putting a lot of effort in, I would hate for all that effort to benefit only a single client! | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:36 <cedk> but we only accept translation for coming release | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:36 <yagami_i> OK, I see. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:37 <cedk> based on trunk | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:37 <yagami_i> What is the release date? I need to make sure we have our deadline locked in. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:37 <cedk> April 18 | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:38 <yagami_i> I'll give you whatever we have in 10 days. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:38 <yagami_i> The rest will get into 2.1/2,2 if we're not finished. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:39 <yagami_i> Nevermind, we'll give you what we have in 12 days. March 31st. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:40 <cedk> yagami_i: ok but based on trunk | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:44 <yagami_i> I'll do my best to make them match. A few fields will not be complete, of course (new 2.0-only modules probably) | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:44 <yagami_i> We should be on track with you by the next release anyway. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:46 <cedk> yagami_i: what is important for us is that one translation of a module is complete | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:46 <cedk> yagami_i: it is not an issue if we miss some modules | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:52 <yagami_i> Ultimately every module our customer uses will be complete -- which at the moment is everything in 1.8 accept for the LDAP bits. Anyway, we may not be 100% by this release but we'll be close. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:52 <cedk> yagami_i: it will be great | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:53 <yagami_i> What's really awesome is if we get more than two clients on this I can make Tryton modules a regular development task. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:53 <yagami_i> And its paid work for us, so why not? | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:53 <yagami_i> Yay! | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:53 <yagami_i> And... that's why open source is fekkin awesome. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:54 <cedk> yagami_i: it is the way we wanted the project grows | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:55 <yagami_i> Well you've done a great job fostering a useful framework. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:56 <yagami_i> As developers you are interested in building mechanics. As a customer-focused business we are interested in filling in the blanks on documentation, templates, translations, workflows and basic example data. | ||
| 2011-03-19 15:56 <yagami_i> And probably adding a few modules by the end... | ||
| 2011-03-19 16:17 <many> it is probably a very nice framework but the documentation really lacks some bits. *whistle* | ||
| 2011-03-19 16:19 <many> for example (cedk might be interested :) it took me hours to figure what i wrote in the comment to http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/RemoteCalls | ||
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| 2011-03-19 21:01 <plantian> I don't think this wizard documentation ever made it anywhere, what should I do now ? -- http://codereview.appspot.com/3422044/ | ||
| 2011-03-19 21:05 <plantian> I just made an issue. | ||
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