| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Feb 24 00:00:03 CET 2011 | ||
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| 2011-02-24 04:20 <alexbodn> hello friends | ||
| 2011-02-24 04:20 <alexbodn> i wish to make a module. would the openerp documentation help? | ||
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| 2011-02-24 08:54 <hoRn> cedk: at the new server install monit - since installed it, i can sleep better, because some expensive task are restarted depending on serverload ;) | ||
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| 2011-02-24 08:59 <cedk> hoRn: I'm not sure to understand | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:02 <hoRn> cedk: we have some a server with a complex zopinstallation, roundup, subversion, mail, mysql etc - sometimes it crashes because of crazy load of some processes and a posible bug in debian kernel. so we installed monit to monitor all thsi processes - by cpuload, memory etc. if something looks strange, monit restart the services and processes. since using it, our server runs more sane | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:03 <hoRn> cedk: i saw that tryton.org is sometimes not responding | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:07 <cedk> hoRn: it is just because we have only 256M on it | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:07 <hoRn> cedk: that's not to much ;) | ||
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| 2011-02-24 09:13 <cedk> hoRn: by the way, I don't like "auto-restart" service because it makes people not looking at fixing issues | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:15 <hoRn> cedk: that's true - but sometimes for me its better to read the logs and thinking about the problem than making changes stressed by telefon calls of the clients | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:18 <cedk> hoRn: don't have this stress with Tryton infra | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:28 <alexbodn> hello friends | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:28 <alexbodn> i wish to make a module. would the openerp documentation help? | ||
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| 2011-02-24 09:35 <hoRn> alexbodn: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HelloWorld is a good starting point | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:39 <cedk> alexbodn: and after you can follow the mq patch repo http://hg.tryton.org/1.6/training/ | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:40 <cedk> alexbodn: and you can read the OE doc but be careful to not take bad coding habit with it :-) | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:41 <alexbodn> hoRn: seen that, but well, that's for hello world ;) | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:42 <alexbodn> cedk: reading | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:43 <cedk> alexbodn: it is still for 1.6 but most of it is still valid | ||
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| 2011-02-24 09:50 <alexbodn> cedk: i'm trying to understand the files' format | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:52 <cedk> alexbodn: it is a mq repository | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:52 <alexbodn> mq? | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:52 <cedk> alexbodn: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MqExtension | ||
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| 2011-02-24 09:55 <cedk> alexbodn: I put command lines in description http://hg.tryton.org/1.6/training | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:56 <alexbodn> cedk: is mq used to show the stages of building this module? | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:57 <alexbodn> and every stage is a diff? | ||
| 2011-02-24 09:57 <cedk> alexbodn: yes | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:01 <alexbodn> good cedk :) | ||
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| 2011-02-24 10:12 <alexbodn> cedk: could i add custom locations to tryton to find modules in? | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:14 <alexbodn> or should i use python setup.py develop? | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:14 <cedk> alexbodn: trytond looks in trytond/modules directory | ||
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| 2011-02-24 10:15 <cedk> alexbodn: and also use the pkg_resources | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:15 <cedk> alexbodn: with entry_point starting with trytond.modules | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:17 <alexbodn> cedk:i wish to develop a module not as root, outside that. i thought of using develop to put a link instead | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:21 <cedk> alexbodn: I think you can install the module in user directory | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:21 <cedk> alexbodn: and the entry_point will do the job | ||
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| 2011-02-24 10:25 <alexbodn> if you look at the way modules are been installed, you'll see they are physically copied under the entry_point | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:28 <alexbodn> hence i'd need a link under entry_point to my location. i know this will be done using python setup.py develop. that will put a file at location that specifies where my files are. (not a real link). | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:29 <alexbodn> to go this way' everything should become more intimate, in /usr/local. is there a way to batch easy_install all modules? | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:30 <alexbodn> or should i parse the modules.txt ;) ? | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:40 <cedk> alexbodn: modules are on PyPI | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:50 <hoRn> is there a way to open a view without using wizard? | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:51 <cedk> hoRn: yes with the menu, the Many2One, the relate action etc. | ||
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| 2011-02-24 10:53 <hoRn> cedk: sorry - bad explanation - but i will take a look to relate | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:54 <abeamud> Hi.. where is the helloWorld tgz?... the link in the wiki links to a non exists resource | ||
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| 2011-02-24 10:58 <hoRn> btw: yesterday i had a small talk and beer with a professor from http://www.htwk-leipzig.de/ - this school is teaching in ms navision and SAP. he was very interested in our experience with tryton. so he ask me about some community events and i was thinking about this after .. | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:58 <cedk> abeamud: seems the wiki has been removed | ||
| 2011-02-24 10:59 <cedk> abeamud: any way, the best way to learn is to do it yourself :-) | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:00 <hoRn> he intimate that there could be some support or such things from the school - how a about a tryton conf this year? | ||
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| 2011-02-24 11:01 <cedk> hoRn: why not but I guess it should be in German? | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:02 <hoRn> cedk: english - no problem - programmers pidgin | ||
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| 2011-02-24 11:03 <cedk> hoRn: so what is your request? | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:04 <hoRn> cedk: I'm not tryton - can i talk to them checking out the posibilities for support a meeting of the community | ||
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| 2011-02-24 11:05 <cedk> hoRn: I'm neither tryton :-) | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:05 <bechamel> ACTION think a community meeting is a good idea | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:06 <abeamud> cedk: I've tried create the helloWorld my self, but the form (to fill data) is not created.. I want only to see diffs with the complete code... | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:06 <hoRn> cedk: second question - someone is interested in such a meeting - nice talks about usecases, beer, dancing, sprints | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:07 <nicoe> ACTION thinks like bechamel | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:07 <cedk> hoRn: so you can make a tryton conf if you want | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:08 <hoRn> cedk: thank you ;) | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:08 <cedk> do you think there is enough people who will come to make a meeting? | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:08 <nicoe> That's the main point | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:08 <hoRn> cedk: don't know - for this I'm asking here. | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:08 <nicoe> will there be enough people to come and make talks | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:09 <cedk> for now, there is many people following Tryton but they are all around the world | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:10 <hoRn> yes - need to ping them all with geoip to get a map where they are located | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:10 <cedk> I think making a meeting that will fail because not enough participant will be worse then doing nothing | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:10 <cedk> hoRn: you can ask to fill the ohloh user map https://www.ohloh.net/p/tryton | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:11 <nicoe> We should probably ask on the mailing list also | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:11 <cedk> there is about 200 people on tryton mailing list | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:12 <nicoe> Making a sprint is also a very good idea | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:12 <nicoe> And a newbie coding session would be good too | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:15 <cedk> hoRn: do you the school could sponsor it? | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:16 <hoRn> yes - all that stuff - but first i need a idea how much people is interested. I talked also with a guy from IHK (Chamber of Industry and Commerce with local dependencies) - they are also very interested in open source software for small business | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:18 <hoRn> cedk: sponsoring is always a question how communicating the advantage for the sponsor | ||
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| 2011-02-24 11:20 <hoRn> cedk: the school for example is the place for world plone day in leipzig for example - but this is because of a good connection between a zopista and a teacher from this school | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:22 <cedk> hoRn: first question is to know if it will be business and/or developper talks | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:24 <nicoe> Moreover if we want to attract people from outside germany the conference has to last for more than one day | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:24 <hoRn> yes - a weekend | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:25 <nicoe> But we could make a day of conference (business & technical) and a more technical day (sprints, coding introduction or something like that) | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:26 <hoRn> devel <> business: there should be schedule with some events for interested user - so they can take a look to the community to get a feeling, what powerfull tryton is ;) | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:30 <nicoe> (I am not tryton, eventough I own ~= 33% of the trademark ;)) but it looks good to me. Maybe you could write a to post to the mailing list because I think it is the better place to talk about this (and keep a record about it). | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:32 <hoRn> yes - I implement a tool for researching the interest and write a message to te list | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:34 <nicoe> thank you | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:35 <nicoe> (what kind of tool do you have in mind ? A web based tool ? If so, what kind of questions ?) | ||
| 2011-02-24 11:36 <hoRn> nicoe: yes - webbased . back in hours with a first dummy | ||
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| 2011-02-24 11:50 <alexbodn> hoRn, cedk, nicoe: there's a trend of brief online seminars. this could be made at different hours for far timezone audition. and pre-scheduled meetings here, too. | ||
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| 2011-02-24 11:51 <alexbodn> brb | ||
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| 2011-02-24 21:28 <hoRn> now rock and roll - business of the day has kept me from writing the little dummy for a possible meeting | ||
| 2011-02-24 21:39 <hoRn> oloh needs registration - new mash up needed | ||
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| 2011-02-24 23:18 <cedk> hoRn: why not google moderate | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:19 <cedk> hoRn: http://www.google.com/moderator/#0 | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:19 <hoRn> cedk: who the f*** is google | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:19 <hoRn> cedk: never heard about it | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:20 <hoRn> cedk: i have trunken half a bottle of wine and a first dummy is done | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:21 <hoRn> http://grasbauer.com/tryton | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:21 <hoRn> little play with google maps - dont know if it works | ||
| 2011-02-24 23:30 <hoRn> cache its to cachy ;) | ||
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