| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Tue Feb 15 00:00:03 CET 2011 | ||
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| 2011-02-15 00:01 <legutierr> OK. My experience with larger OSS projects so far has been limited to making some contributions to Django. They are quite well structured, I think, out of necessity. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:02 <legutierr> I'm sure that you all feel that your documentation might be lacking as well. Are you looking for contributions in that area? | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:02 <cedk> legutierr: yes of course | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:03 <legutierr> I think that documenting it would be a great way to learn the ins-and-outs of your architecture. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:05 <cedk> legutierr: yes but there is a difficulty in documenting it is the high modularity of the system | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:05 <cedk> which is difficult to put back in the documentation | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:06 <legutierr> in what way is it difficult? In my experience, if it can be used, it can be documented. | ||
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| 2011-02-15 00:08 <wt> I am trying to find the real story for tryton and openerp | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:08 <legutierr> Things that are very generalized can be hard to document in the abstract, sure, but that's why it's important to combine high-level descriptions, I think, with concrete examples. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:08 <cedk> legutierr: it depends at which level you want to docuement | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:08 <wt> Is it true that OpenERP still uses the float type instead of decimal at the DB layer? | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:08 <cedk> legutierr: if it is at the developer level, yes it is doable and quiet easy | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:09 <cedk> legutierr: if it is for end-user then the usage can change depending of the modules installed | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:09 <legutierr> Ah, so there are different behaviors based on what has or has not been installed. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:09 <cedk> wt: yes but not at the DB layer but in the Python code | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:09 <wt> cedk: so they use PostgreSQL decimal with python float? | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:10 <cedk> legutierr: yes and it can be very different, the screen can be different, the workflow etc. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:10 <legutierr> Are you money-patching run-time code, or is it just that the execution path differs? | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:10 <cedk> wt: yes it is insane | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:10 <wt> what a mindbending thing to do | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:10 <wt> thanks | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:11 <cedk> legutierr: no, the system load modules depending of the configuration (in the DB) | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:11 <legutierr> ok | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:12 <legutierr> see, this is the technical level of understanding that in my view needs to be documented. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:12 <legutierr> I am very interested in understanding how all of that works, but I don't know where to start looking except for right here :) | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:13 <legutierr> (i.e. talking to you in irc) | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:14 <cedk> legutierr: on the wiki, there is the HelloWorld example | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:14 <cedk> legutierr: or I have made a training mq repository if you want | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:14 <cedk> http://hg.tryton.org/1.6/training/ | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:15 <cedk> it is for 1.6 but it could help | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:15 <cedk> I will try to update it soon | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:15 <legutierr> Yeah, the wiki didn't make much sense to me. I have XML narcolepsy I think, I kept nodding off as I read through the XML (not kidding ;) ) | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:17 <legutierr> I'll try to look over your training module, cedk . Is it OK if I come back to ask you some questions about it? | ||
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| 2011-02-15 00:19 <cedk> legutierr: yes | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:19 <cedk> legutierr: it is a mq series of patches | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:20 <cedk> legutierr: that tries to show the development process of a simple module step by step | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:20 <legutierr> by mq do you mean hg? I'm not familiar with mq. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:21 <cedk> legutierr: yes it is an mercurial mq repository | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:21 <cedk> legutierr: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MqTutorial | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:21 <cedk> legutierr: start there after that you should understand | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:22 <legutierr> ok, thanks cedk | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:22 <legutierr> I'll be in touch. | ||
| 2011-02-15 00:39 <cedk> legutierr: ok, bye | ||
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| 2011-02-15 14:22 <cedk> udono: I have updated the dnd tree mq repo with the left pane menu | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:22 <cedk> ssh://ced@tycho.b2ck.com//home/ced/public_html/hg/tryton-dnd-tree | ||
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| 2011-02-15 14:45 <udono> cedk: I need your password for the above link ;-) | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:46 <cedk> http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/hg/hgwebdir.cgi/tryton-dnd-tree/ | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:48 <udono> cedk: thanks | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:55 <cedk> udono: updated with some minor fix | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:56 <udono> cedk: btw is there an easy way how to put the patch repos inside my trytond repos. | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:56 <udono> cedk: I looked at mq, but have not found docs about... | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:58 <cedk> udono: fetch it as .hg/patches | ||
| 2011-02-15 14:58 <udono> cedk: ok, I try | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:09 <udono> cedk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/338917/ I guess I am missing a server site patch... | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:15 <cedk> udono: yes i have updated the menu-board repo also | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:25 <udono> cedk: cool! | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:26 <udono> cedk: not looking nice :P But it works so far. | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:28 <cedk> udono: what ? | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:28 <udono> cedk: the style of the menu. | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:29 <cedk> udono: what ? | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:30 <udono> cedk: would be great for the menu, when we apply bechamel's old idea with the a Accordion Menu | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:30 <udono> cedk: without indent for the inner nested parts. | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:31 <cedk> udono: it is really not userfriendly an accordion menu | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:31 <udono> cedk: ? | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:31 <cedk> udono: how do you want to display a tree without indentation | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:33 <udono> cedk: with more discreet indent. And root level can be different colored, so that an entry with parent root must have no indentation | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:34 <cedk> udono: it is not GTK standard | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:34 <udono> cedk: don't understand? | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:35 <cedk> udono: GTK doesn't display tree like that | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:35 <udono> cedk: ah, ok | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:36 <bechamel> cedk: udono: what about the root items of the menu being the tabs of a notebook ? :) | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:37 <cedk> udono: and also you try to fake an accordion which is not userfriendly | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:37 <cedk> bechamel: why ? | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:38 <bechamel> cedk: I was re-thinking about the MS office ribbon ui, I was not serious | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:39 <cedk> all those pseudo-new design are completly undrivable with keyborad | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:44 <udono> cedk: yes, keyboard accessibility is a 'must-have' | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:48 <udono> cedk: great, I have detected the menu Toggle :-) | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:50 <udono> cedk: but the add shordcut action disappears when toggling the menu | ||
| 2011-02-15 15:57 <udono> cedk: forget the last issue, it was my fault, PDA Mode | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:01 <udono> cedk: adding a new record in a tree view with Ctrl-N or New in toolbar does not work. | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:02 <udono> cedk: drag n drop in tree view does not work. E.g. party categories tree view | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:03 <cedk> udono: if there is no form view it is normal | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:04 <cedk> udono: if the children and parent are not in the view it is normal | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:05 <udono> cedk: hm, but drag n drop is only useful on tree view, isn't it | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:05 <cedk> udono: don't understand | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:07 <udono> cedk: me either :-) How can I test drag n drop? | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:08 <cedk> udono: you must have a view with children field and parent field | ||
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| 2011-02-15 16:08 <udono> cedk: must be a form view? | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:10 <udono> I try it with party categories and account. Both do not work... | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:11 <cedk> udono: of course the fields are not defined | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:11 <udono> cedk: Do you know a view I can test in the default modules? | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:12 <cedk> udono: there is none | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:12 <udono> cedk: ah, now understand. | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:13 <cedk> udono: it is a new feature, any existing view could have it | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:17 <udono> cedk: dnd works fine. | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:21 <udono> ... even with tree_invisible="1" | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:24 <yangoon> cedk: do you plan a release for hgnested? | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:24 <yangoon> cedk: because it was in the news, but there is nor release | ||
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| 2011-02-15 16:26 <cedk> yangoon: don't know | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:27 <udono> ACTION can not find a way to switch view from tree to form. It does not work for party categories, account.account and stock locations. | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:28 <cedk> udono: you must define one | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:28 <yangoon> cedk: just asking because mercurial 1.7 is quite actual | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:29 <cedk> yangoon: hg 1.7 is only 3 months old | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:32 <udono> IC very good. Now the tree does not open another tab, on switch it just work like list and form view. | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:33 <yangoon> cedk: you are right, only thing is: it will hit debian testing in 8 days | ||
| 2011-02-15 16:52 <udono> cedk: Found an issue: When droping an item to itself, then http://paste.pocoo.org/show/338990/ | ||
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| 2011-02-15 18:18 <cedk> udono: there is a TODO in the code with: check drop recursion :-) | ||
| 2011-02-15 18:31 <cedk> udono: solved | ||
| 2011-02-15 18:39 <udono> cedk: works | ||
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