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| 2011-01-13 11:39 <yangoon> cedk: hi | ||
| 2011-01-13 11:39 <yangoon> cedk: could we schedule maintenance release for beginning next week, when cron fix could be in 1.8? | ||
| 2011-01-13 11:42 <yangoon> cedk: btw: fix for product_cost_fifo 'Fix default fifo_quantity naming' is missing for 1.4 | ||
| 2011-01-13 11:55 <cedk> yangoon: yes for release schedule | ||
| 2011-01-13 11:55 <cedk> yangoon: for fifo, I have no access to the computer where I manage the transplant | ||
| 2011-01-13 11:55 <cedk> yangoon: could you send me an email as reminder? | ||
| 2011-01-13 11:56 <yangoon> cedk: will do | ||
| 2011-01-13 12:54 <cedk> yangoon: received | ||
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| 2011-01-13 18:50 <marga> In tryton, if I want to re-order a list of items that is more than the current limit of items to be shown... Does the current list get reordered? Or does it get a new subset of the reordered list? | ||
| 2011-01-13 18:55 <bechamel> marga: when you click on the column title, the client trigger a new read to the server | ||
| 2011-01-13 18:56 <bechamel> marga: and the order by is made in the database | ||
| 2011-01-13 18:57 <marga> Awesome | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:03 <marga> Was it not possible to fix OpenERP instead of forking? | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:03 <marga> forks make me sad | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:08 <bechamel> marga: no it wasn't, amongst other reason, fixing openerp would means migrating a lot of module | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:09 <bechamel> we prefered to have a sane base and rewrite the modules (and try to improve modelisations) | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:10 <marga> bechamel: right, but when doing that you lose a lot of momentum :-\ | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:11 <bechamel> marga: the example of the day I saw on #openerp is the field "partner_shipping_id" that points to the partner_address table, this makes no sense, it should be shipping_address | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:11 <marga> bechamel: yeah, I know. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:11 <marga> It sucks big time. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:12 <bechamel> marga: yes but otho you get a framework that is more pleasant to use, and you develop even faster | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:12 <marga> It's just that in my case I'm using quite a number of modulest that are not present in tryton, and that'd mean much more coding that I already have to do. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:13 <bechamel> and BTW there are a lot of module in OERP but how much are maintained for current version, and for older version ? | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:13 <marga> But yeah, I've spent quite a while fixing OpenERP stupidity, only to get my patches rejected :-\ | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:14 <marga> Did you get a lot of patch rejection before forking? | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:14 <bechamel> marga: you answer to "why forking" :) | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:15 <marga> Yeah, I know. But forking is still sad because it divides efforts. I'm not saying that "thou shall not fork", only that it's a sad situation. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:15 <bechamel> marga: at the time we where tiny employee, we tried to push changes (like the employee that left before we arrived), but it didn't work, so we left and started tryton | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:18 <bechamel> marga: it's not so sad because, we have another approach | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:18 <bechamel> so it's not the same software with different features, it's another software | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:19 <marga> bechamel: yeah, ok, I'm not critizing | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:19 <bechamel> tryton is more a toolbox + modules that can be used for an erp, while openerp is a "product" | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:19 <marga> I just want to understand because I hate OpenERP and I feel that if some of your work would be integrated my life would be easier. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:20 <marga> bechamel: and there's no hope of Tryton becoming a product? | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:20 <marga> BTW, OpenERP sucks as a product as much as it sucks as a framework. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:20 <marga> It's just a lot of ugly code... A LOT. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:22 <bechamel> marga: yes, having a product is clearly possible and not difficult, it's just that it's better to separate clealy the toolbox from it | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:22 <marga> Right | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:22 <marga> I think a better orm would also help. | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:26 <bechamel> I don't know very well the openerp orm, but imo the tryton orm is not that bad | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:26 <bechamel> it could look more pythonic, but the perf and feature set is quite good | ||
| 2011-01-13 19:28 <bechamel> I have to go, bye | ||
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