IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2010-09-13

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Sep 13 00:00:04 CEST 2010
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2010-09-13 07:46 <Timitos> cedk: hi
2010-09-13 07:47 <Timitos> cedk: tryton roundup is offline. could you please have a look?
2010-09-13 08:11 <cedk> Timitos: done
2010-09-13 08:12 <Timitos> cedk: thx
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2010-09-13 09:41 <cedk> Okko: I have updated the documentation of account_stock_anglosaxon
2010-09-13 09:41 <cedk> Okko: we should take care of the case if the invoice is received before the delivery
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2010-09-13 13:03 <svaksha> hi. after installing tryton, 'tryton [options]' invokes the interface but the 'connect' button is greyed out. any idea why this happens? TIA
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2010-09-13 13:10 <svaksha> the UI also has the error, 'database: could not connect to server!'
2010-09-13 13:11 <svaksha> could someone help out please
2010-09-13 13:11 <svaksha> tia
2010-09-13 13:11 <bechamel> svaksha: check that the server is running and that you use the correct host
2010-09-13 13:11 <svaksha> bechamel: i started postgres before invoking tryton
2010-09-13 13:11 <svaksha> host = localhost
2010-09-13 13:12 <bechamel> ok, now check that the tryton sever as the acces right to connect to postgres
2010-09-13 13:13 <svaksha> how? any documentation that i can read?
2010-09-13 13:14 <bechamel> there is a small howto on the wiki http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/SetupAndStart
2010-09-13 13:16 <svaksha> bechamel: thanks
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2010-09-13 13:31 <svaksha> bechamel: i have tried that earlier. it created a new user 'tryton' which during system bootup does not let me login
2010-09-13 13:33 <svaksha> bechamel: i installed via the ubuntu repo so cd ~/workspace/tryton-dist/trytond is not relevant i guess
2010-09-13 13:33 <bechamel> svaksha: don't try to login with it, just du "sudo su tryton" and then start the server
2010-09-13 13:33 <bechamel> svaksha: I don't know how is the config when you install it with ubuntu
2010-09-13 13:35 <svaksha> bechamel: sudo su tryton works but does not accept the password given earlier
2010-09-13 13:36 <bechamel> svaksha: when you use sudo you must provide your current password (like all the other time you use sudo)
2010-09-13 13:36 <svaksha> bechamel: ah, i though it wanted the tryton pw
2010-09-13 13:37 <svaksha> bechamel: tried both, its still "[sudo] password for tryton: "
2010-09-13 13:39 <bechamel> "..for tryton" -> this means that your are already logged as the tryton user
2010-09-13 13:42 <yangoon> svaksha: /usr/share/doc/tryton-server/README.Debian contains the installation hints you need on Debian and usually its derivates
2010-09-13 13:57 <svaksha> bechamel: yangoon thanks
2010-09-13 13:58 <yangoon> svaksha: welcome
2010-09-13 13:58 <svaksha> bechamel: if i am logged in it should not ask for a pw, right?
2010-09-13 13:59 <svaksha> $ ./bin/tryton
2010-09-13 13:59 <svaksha> sh: ./bin/tryton: not found
2010-09-13 13:59 <svaksha> ^^ error msg
2010-09-13 14:00 <bechamel> there is probably an init script in /etc/init.d
2010-09-13 14:00 <svaksha> both system pw and tryton setup pw dont work, [sudo] password for tryton:
2010-09-13 14:00 <svaksha> Sorry, try again.
2010-09-13 14:01 <svaksha> bechamel: will it need to be manually initialized?
2010-09-13 14:01 <svaksha> s/initialized/invoked
2010-09-13 14:01 <bechamel> svaksha: "[sudo] password for xxx" means your are currently the user xxx, so no need to use sudo su once again
2010-09-13 14:02 <svaksha> agree, but since the UI is not invoked ...how does one go about that
2010-09-13 14:03 <bechamel> svaksha: the UI and the server are two separate stuffs, like apache and firefox for the web
2010-09-13 14:04 <yangoon> svaksha: /usr//bin/tryton if you don't invoke it with the menu shortcut
2010-09-13 14:04 <yangoon> svaksha: for the client
2010-09-13 14:04 <bechamel> so you need 1) to run the server and 2) launc the UI client and connect to the server
2010-09-13 14:05 <svaksha> ok, will try again
2010-09-13 14:05 <yangoon> svaksha: if you have followed /usr/share/doc/tryton-server/README.Debian the server should be up and running, thenstart the client
2010-09-13 14:05 <bechamel> and all the sudo su stuff is only needed for the server
2010-09-13 14:12 <svaksha> http://pastebin.com/xFyetyrw, error logs while invoking the client
2010-09-13 14:14 <bechamel> svaksha: FYI those are the server log
2010-09-13 14:15 <bechamel> svaksha: anyway you have to install the python-ldap modules (with apt our aptitude)
2010-09-13 14:15 <svaksha> bechamel: ok, but it says "ImportError: No module named ldap"
2010-09-13 14:15 <bechamel> s/modules/module/
2010-09-13 14:15 <svaksha> k
2010-09-13 14:16 <yangoon> bechamel: is is a depends of tryton-modules-ldap-connection
2010-09-13 14:16 <svaksha> ACTION installed ldap so it should not throw that error
2010-09-13 14:16 <svaksha> its strange
2010-09-13 14:17 <svaksha> also does a localhost need that module?
2010-09-13 14:18 <yangoon> svaksha: you did two different installations
2010-09-13 14:18 <yangoon> one by setuptools, one by debian package management
2010-09-13 14:19 <svaksha> umm...do you mean i have two installations of tryton, ordo you mean that i have installed both server and client
2010-09-13 14:19 <svaksha> for tryton
2010-09-13 14:19 <yangoon> svaksha: the first one
2010-09-13 14:19 <yangoon> svaksha: please read http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/InstallationOnDebian
2010-09-13 14:19 <svaksha> hmm...
2010-09-13 14:19 <yangoon> and decide which way to go
2010-09-13 14:20 <yangoon> afk
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2010-09-13 14:29 <svaksha> fwiw, the server is running but the database setup is not. /me reads a bit more
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2010-09-13 15:13 <svaksha> bechamel: yangoon , got tryton working, thanks
2010-09-13 15:14 <bechamel> svaksha: great
2010-09-13 15:16 <svaksha> thanks for helping a tryton newbie
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2010-09-13 15:46 <svaksha> btw, is there any documentation on all the modules for new users? i checked the tryton site which mostly has development docs.
2010-09-13 15:49 <bechamel> svaksha: some user doc http://doc.tryton.org/1.6/modules/index.html
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2010-09-13 16:01 <svaksha> bechamel: thanks
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2010-09-13 17:41 <cedk> Okko: did you check the doc?
2010-09-13 18:01 <cedk> Okko: I need to validate the behavior when shipment comes after invoice
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2010-09-13 21:21 <Okko> hi Cedk
2010-09-13 21:21 <Okko> which doc do you mean
2010-09-13 21:22 <Okko> the google doc?
2010-09-13 21:23 <cedk> Okko: on codereview
2010-09-13 21:23 <cedk> Okko: http://codereview.appspot.com/2179041/
2010-09-13 21:24 <Okko> doc/index.rst?
2010-09-13 21:24 <cedk> Okko: yes
2010-09-13 21:25 <cedk> Okko: the main issue is to do when invoice comes before shipment
2010-09-13 21:26 <Okko> yes I am thinking
2010-09-13 21:26 <Okko> to me the booking is the same
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2010-09-13 21:27 <Okko> only problem is that receiving goods is updating the costprice
2010-09-13 21:27 <Okko> and receiving part is not yet done
2010-09-13 21:28 <Okko> I think acount 444 should be booked as to what price is in the purchase order
2010-09-13 21:28 <Okko> and after the invoice is booked, the prices in the purchase order should be protected
2010-09-13 21:29 <Okko> so the booking is exactly the same
2010-09-13 21:30 <cedk> Okko: ok
2010-09-13 21:46 <Okko> I think it is good to add the terms periodic and perpetual accounting
2010-09-13 21:46 <Okko> periodic = continental
2010-09-13 21:46 <Okko> perpetual = anglosaxon
2010-09-13 21:46 <Okko> these two are more common
2010-09-13 22:13 <cedk> Okko: I don't think it is the same
2010-09-13 22:15 <cedk> Okko: in fact the current behavior of account_stock_continental is based on perpetual
2010-09-13 22:15 <cedk> Okko: and it is the same fo anglo-saxon
2010-09-13 22:15 <cedk> Okko: periodical means that you write move on stock account periodicaly (often once per year)
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2010-09-13 22:22 <Okko> cedk: ok
2010-09-13 22:23 <cedk> Okko: so I will start writing code ;-)
2010-09-13 22:23 <Okko> other possible stupid question: how to change the draft state of a supplier move
2010-09-13 22:24 <Okko> it is protected
2010-09-13 22:24 <cedk> Okko: don't understand
2010-09-13 22:24 <Okko> I created purchase order and confirmed it
2010-09-13 22:24 <Okko> now I want to receive goods
2010-09-13 22:24 <Okko> but the supplier move shows a protected 'draft' state
2010-09-13 22:24 <cedk> Okko: create a supplier shipment
2010-09-13 22:24 <Okko> manually
2010-09-13 22:24 <cedk> Okko: yes
2010-09-13 22:25 <cedk> Okko: then you will be able to fill it with pre-created stock move
2010-09-13 22:25 <cedk> Okko: edit with the right quantity
2010-09-13 22:25 <cedk> Okko: and validate to shipment
2010-09-13 22:25 <Okko> oke let me try
2010-09-13 22:26 <cedk> Okko: I know it is strange the first time but it is the best behavior we found
2010-09-13 22:26 <cedk> Okko: because:
2010-09-13 22:26 <cedk> - you don't know when and how you will receive goods
2010-09-13 22:26 <cedk> - you don't know how many shipment you will receive from your supplier
2010-09-13 22:27 <cedk> - it is a good way to ensure verification of reception
2010-09-13 22:30 <Okko> true, but I do want to see my outstanding purchase order lines sorted per expected delivery date
2010-09-13 22:31 <Okko> after I have selected the supplier
2010-09-13 22:31 <cedk> Okko: why not
2010-09-13 22:31 <cedk> Okko: just need to add planned_date in _order of stock.move
2010-09-13 22:33 <Okko> but I experienced the purchaseorder lines are not visible within the new supplier shipment
2010-09-13 22:34 <Okko> so I have to select the product manually
2010-09-13 22:34 <Okko> or do I miss something?
2010-09-13 22:36 <cedk> Okko: do you fill the supplier?
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2010-09-13 22:39 <Okko> yes
2010-09-13 22:39 <cedk> Okko: that is strange
2010-09-13 22:39 <cedk> Okko: you click on the + button
2010-09-13 22:41 <Okko> w8
2010-09-13 22:42 <Okko> got it
2010-09-13 22:42 <Okko> that one could be more obvious
2010-09-13 22:42 <Okko> we will think of something better
2010-09-13 22:42 <Okko> Fri and sat is still confirmed by the way?
2010-09-13 22:43 <cedk> Okko: for us yes
2010-09-13 22:43 <Okko> for us yes
2010-09-13 22:43 <cedk> Okko: you should send details
2010-09-13 22:43 <Okko> I will send the list of questions tomorrow
2010-09-13 22:44 <Okko> long list of questions ;-)
2010-09-13 22:45 <cedk> Okko: hope we could answer :-)
2010-09-13 22:53 <cedk> Okko: but what is the issue with the supplier shipment?
2010-09-13 22:56 <Okko> the + is working
2010-09-13 22:57 <Okko> I wanted to check the average costing
2010-09-13 22:57 <cedk> Okko: you can edit unit price on the move
2010-09-13 22:58 <Okko> yes I see
2010-09-13 22:58 <Okko> I will do more testing this week
2010-09-13 22:59 <Okko> and first tomorrow a great sales opportunity
2010-09-13 22:59 <cedk> Okko: ok
2010-09-13 23:00 <Okko> so I am off now
2010-09-13 23:00 <cedk> bye
2010-09-13 23:00 <Okko> thanks for the help
2010-09-13 23:00 <cedk> me too :-)
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