IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2010-09-10

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2010-09-09 02:55 <Hydrant> hello all
2010-09-09 02:58 <Hydrant> is anyone here in Canada ?
2010-09-09 02:58 <Hydrant> just curious
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2010-09-09 03:28 <mgaz> I am trying to add a new field for a new model. Does anyone know why the "Create a new record" icon is grayed out?
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2010-09-09 08:00 <cedk> mgaz: you can not do it from the client
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2010-09-09 09:51 <mgaz> I was able to create one field from the client but not more
2010-09-09 09:53 <cedk> mgaz: it is not possible
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2010-09-09 10:05 <mgaz> i did it
2010-09-09 10:06 <mgaz> just click on a new model on the edit icon for the fields or switch view and you can create one field
2010-09-09 10:08 <cedk> mgaz: it should not
2010-09-09 10:09 <mgaz> but it works :-)
2010-09-09 10:09 <mgaz> and this is in addition a very handy feature to quickly customize few models
2010-09-09 10:10 <cedk> mgaz: it doesn't work
2010-09-09 10:10 <mgaz> I have 1.6
2010-09-09 10:10 <mgaz> here are the steps
2010-09-09 10:11 <mgaz> 1. create a new model from Administration -> Models -> Models
2010-09-09 10:12 <mgaz> 2. enter a name and a description
2010-09-09 10:12 <mgaz> 3. on the fields section, just click on the blue icon (edit current record)
2010-09-09 10:13 <mgaz> 4. Enter some field data
2010-09-09 10:13 <cedk> mgaz: but it does nothing
2010-09-09 10:13 <mgaz> *3. Click on the Switch button sorry
2010-09-09 10:13 <mgaz> my mistake
2010-09-09 10:14 <mgaz> the switch button for fields to the right
2010-09-09 10:14 <mgaz> that is it!
2010-09-09 10:16 <mgaz> In addition, a do not know what would bethe benefit of creating a new model, if we can not create fields for it
2010-09-09 10:18 <cedk> mgaz: this is not a feature !
2010-09-09 10:19 <mgaz> but as you see it is working
2010-09-09 10:20 <cedk> mgaz: it is a bug !
2010-09-09 10:20 <cedk> mgaz: it is not working
2010-09-09 10:21 <mgaz> and that is why I logged it and then you have set it to invalid as usual :-)
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2010-09-09 10:30 <bechamel> after "it's not a bug it's a feature" whe have "it's not a feature it's a bug !" xD
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2010-09-09 18:48 <yangoon> cedk:
2010-09-09 18:48 <yangoon> DetectorError: Error: couldn't send email: (452, '4.3.1 Insufficient system storage', 'roundup-admin@tryton.org')
2010-09-09 18:51 <cedk> yangoon: I check
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2010-09-09 19:26 <cedk> yangoon: should be fixed
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2010-09-09 19:30 <heffer> as soon as i add an image to my header_A4.odt i get AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'add_file_entry'. any idea why that is?
2010-09-09 19:30 <heffer> full traceback is at: http://fpaste.org/o3wE/
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2010-09-09 19:46 <yangoon> cedk: thx
2010-09-09 19:54 <cedk> heffer: could you fill an issue
2010-09-09 20:00 <cedk> heffer: and could you tell me which version of Ooo do you use?
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2010-09-10 08:18 <cedk> daniel__, Timitos, yangoon: reboot with the ovh kernel
2010-09-10 08:19 <daniel__> Nice
2010-09-10 08:20 <daniel__> cedk:thanks again, hope you can figure out whats wrong with the new kernel
2010-09-10 08:21 <Timitos> cedk: thx
2010-09-10 08:31 <dba> cedk: what distribution are you running on t.o, gentoo?
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2010-09-10 08:43 <cedk> dba: yes
2010-09-10 08:45 <daniel__> does anyone know how to get to the module wizard if you declined it on the initial setup?
2010-09-10 08:46 <Timitos> daniel__: Administration -> Modules -> Config Wizard Items
2010-09-10 08:47 <Timitos> daniel__: set the state to open and logout and login into the database again
2010-09-10 08:47 <daniel__> timitos: thank you!
2010-09-10 08:49 <daniel__> if there are any core/other developers here just wanted to throw out that I'm going to be learning how to use this for decent size business in chicago, integrated with django soon and I'm going to be blogging about it quite soon
2010-09-10 08:49 <daniel__> so that there are some learning resources in english
2010-09-10 08:50 <daniel__> I'll throw the links up so if there is a gross error please don't hesitate to be merciless
2010-09-10 08:54 <Timitos> daniel__: nice to hear. i think it would be good if you could have a look on the english terms in the modules as we do not have many english native speakers here.
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2010-09-10 08:55 <daniel__> would be my pleasure
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2010-09-10 12:13 <daniel_> anyone: has anyone ever setup tryton via virtualenv?
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2010-09-10 13:01 <svaksha> hi, i was installing the account_invoice_history module and hit this error: http://pastebin.com/46bdPfDz
2010-09-10 13:02 <svaksha> any ideas/help appreciated. TIA
2010-09-10 13:07 <Timitos> svaksha: you should try to install egenix-mx-base or egenix-mx-datetime from your distribution repository instead of using easy_install. i also had already issues with egenix-mx-base from pypi. but it was a long time ago.
2010-09-10 13:09 <svaksha> Timitos: thanks, i installed egenix-mx-base but there is no package for 'datetime' in ubuntu lucid
2010-09-10 13:10 <Timitos> svaksha: it should be included
2010-09-10 13:10 <svaksha> can tryton work without this module? i'm new to tryton so excuse the basic questions :)
2010-09-10 13:13 <Timitos> svaksha: as i remember egenix-mx-datetime should be included in egenix-mx-base. so yes it will work.
2010-09-10 13:13 <svaksha> ok, thanks again
2010-09-10 13:14 <Timitos> you are welcome
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2010-09-10 14:28 <mgaz> does anyone know how to change number formats in tryton to just 2 decimals and not 4?
2010-09-10 14:30 <yangoon> mgaz: which numbers?
2010-09-10 14:30 <mgaz> like prices for products
2010-09-10 14:32 <yangoon> mgaz: currencies/ Tab formatting
2010-09-10 14:34 <mgaz> there I already have 2 for the digits
2010-09-10 14:35 <mgaz> but it stills shows 4 digits
2010-09-10 14:36 <Timitos> mgaz: http://hg.tryton.org/modules/product/file/18ccb5261eb4/product.py#l26
2010-09-10 14:36 <yangoon> mgaz: it is hardcoded like that
2010-09-10 14:37 <mgaz> I saw it
2010-09-10 14:40 <mgaz> this is not very handy for internationalization
2010-09-10 14:42 <mgaz> I could not find a language file for the Dutch market
2010-09-10 14:42 <mgaz> anyone has an idea?
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2010-09-10 14:59 <cedk> mgaz: it is hardcoded because it requires to write a module to have different value
2010-09-10 15:00 <cedk> mgaz: by the way, this value is not linked to a country but to the business
2010-09-10 15:06 <Timitos> cedk: what do you mean with business in this context. or what is the business you mean?
2010-09-10 15:06 <mgaz> cedk: I understand, just if you would install it for an international company like the case I have now, it is difficult to manage
2010-09-10 15:07 <mgaz> in one country we have 2 digits, in the other 3
2010-09-10 15:09 <cedk> Timitos: if you sale, small pieces that have very small unit price or if you sale power plant
2010-09-10 15:10 <cedk> mgaz: I think you did not see that prices uses for accounting are rounding with the currency definition
2010-09-10 15:10 <Timitos> cedk: thx. now i understood the sentence.
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2010-09-10 15:23 <mgaz> is there a dutch chart of accounts and a dutch translation by the way?
2010-09-10 15:25 <cedk> mgaz: not yet
2010-09-10 15:26 <mgaz> I see
2010-09-10 15:26 <mgaz> I am going to work on a dutch chart of accounts cz I badly need it
2010-09-10 15:27 <cedk> mgaz: the best is to announce it on the mailing list
2010-09-10 15:27 <cedk> mgaz: perhaps others will join you
2010-09-10 15:28 <mgaz> well, I have the chart ready and approved by our accountant, I just have to implement it
2010-09-10 15:28 <mgaz> once the first version is ready we could then announce it
2010-09-10 15:29 <mgaz> same would go for the Dutch and the Arabic language
2010-09-10 15:29 <mgaz> another very important feature would be the "product-bundle"
2010-09-10 15:30 <mgaz> bundling products together into a new package
2010-09-10 15:31 <mgaz> a Travel trip is based on: accomodations, flight tickets, transportation services, visum services,...
2010-09-10 15:31 <mgaz> or a PC is made up out of: memory, hard disk, display, case,...
2010-09-10 15:54 <mgaz> how coould I apply a discount on an invoice?
2010-09-10 16:04 <cedk> mgaz: there is nothing for now
2010-09-10 16:05 <cedk> mgaz: by the way, discount can mean a lot of things
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2010-09-10 17:21 <mgaz> cedk:discount on the toal price of the invoice
2010-09-10 17:24 <cedk> mgaz: I mean in accounting language
2010-09-10 17:25 <mgaz> cedk: I know, but I am refering to a simple feature, where the discount is applied to the invoice in total
2010-09-10 17:25 <mgaz> cedk: and is written back in the revenue account
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2010-09-10 17:31 <Timitos> mgaz: this is not so easy as you need to consider taxes and cases when there is more than one revenue account.
2010-09-10 17:32 <Timitos> mgaz: we had a module that allows to set a discount on invoice line. but there seemed to be no interest in the module.
2010-09-10 17:33 <mgaz> Timitos: what was the module name?
2010-09-10 17:33 <mgaz> Timitos: was it a tested module?
2010-09-10 17:34 <Timitos> mgaz: it was account_invoice_discount. what do you mean with tested module?
2010-09-10 17:34 <mgaz> Timitos: for some cases like travel agencies where you do not have sales taxes, the module is very interesting
2010-09-10 17:35 <Timitos> mgaz: http://mercurial.intuxication.org/tryton/account_invoice_discount/
2010-09-10 17:35 <mgaz> Timitos: I mean functionally tested
2010-09-10 17:35 <mgaz> Timitos: great! thnx
2010-09-10 17:35 <mgaz> I will take a look at it
2010-09-10 17:35 <Timitos> mgaz: i think it only works for 1.2 for the moment. or 1.4. i do not know exactly. need to check
2010-09-10 17:37 <Timitos> mgaz: should work with 1.4
2010-09-10 17:37 <mgaz> Timitos: I will check it
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2010-09-10 17:39 <mgaz> Timitos: I am new to python. Do you have a good editor for me inclusing debugging and may be on which OS is it best to develop? I am using Ubuntu
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2010-09-10 17:43 <Timitos> mgaz: i formerly used ubuntu too. i think you could try eclipse with pydev if you prefer a bigger editor. but many others use vim or emacs. it is a decision of your own flavour.
2010-09-10 17:44 <pheller> mgaz: I use eclipse with pydev and virtualenv on Mac OS. You can just as easily use vim and print statements for debugging
2010-09-10 17:45 <mgaz> Timitos: I am using vim too as for now
2010-09-10 17:46 <pheller> make sure to check out virtualenv, though. it allows you to create a separate environment in which you can install python modules, without infecting the OS python installation
2010-09-10 17:46 <pheller> .... there are also some nice vi style plugins for Eclipse, if you want the big IDE, but still want to do everything without a mouse
2010-09-10 17:47 <mgaz> pheller: thank you for the tip
2010-09-10 17:47 <pheller> no problem, enjoy
2010-09-10 17:49 <mgaz> I would like to contribute to this project with the Dutch and Arabic translation
2010-09-10 17:49 <mgaz> any tips on how to do that?
2010-09-10 17:49 <mgaz> Editor, environment, tools,...
2010-09-10 17:50 <mgaz> I am an MS developer :-( with PHP and MySQL knowledge
2010-09-10 17:50 <mgaz> in Python I am a beginner unfortunately
2010-09-10 17:53 <Timitos> mgaz: for translation you should ask yangoon. he does the german translation
2010-09-10 17:54 <mgaz> I will join him on the german channel
2010-09-10 17:54 <mgaz> thnx
2010-09-10 17:55 <Timitos> mgaz: editor: if you know vim then use it. debugging -> use print statements in the code. should be enough. tools? i think for the start you do not need any :-)
2010-09-10 17:56 <Timitos> mgaz: i forgot an important tool: the IRC-Client ;-)
2010-09-10 17:56 <mgaz> Timitos: then I am already on the suggested env.
2010-09-10 17:56 <mgaz> Timitos: true :-)
2010-09-10 18:10 <mgaz> on every report, i have the address of the company in the header, can I remove that? I could not find it in the report itself
2010-09-10 18:16 <Timitos> mgaz: take a look on header_A4.odt in the company module
2010-09-10 18:16 <mgaz> Timitos: thank you
2010-09-10 18:17 <mgaz> just a last one: I have a customer where the language is set to German, but I still get all reports in English
2010-09-10 18:17 <mgaz> Sales Invoice as an Example
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2010-09-10 18:21 <Timitos> mgaz: strange. should not happen
2010-09-10 18:24 <Timitos> mgaz: can you check if german is marked as translatable in administration -> localization -> languages
2010-09-10 18:24 <udono> mgaz: hi, try to update the database with trytond -u all -d <dbname>
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2010-09-10 18:32 <mgaz> Timitos: I will try
2010-09-10 18:33 <mgaz> Timitos: It is
2010-09-10 18:35 <Timitos> mgaz: you should try it again after an module update as udono recommended.
2010-09-10 18:53 <mgaz> Timitos: I get an error
2010-09-10 18:53 <mgaz> [Fri Sep 10 18:51:57 2010] ERROR:sql:Wrong SQL: SELECT code FROM ir_lang WHERE translatable
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> Traceback (most recent call last):
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> File "/usr/bin/trytond", line 30, in <module>
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> trytond.server.TrytonServer().run()
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/trytond/server.py", line 105, in run
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> cursor.execute('SELECT code FROM ir_lang ' \
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/trytond/backend/postgresql/database.py", line 292, in execute
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> res = self.cursor.execute(sql)
2010-09-10 18:54 <mgaz> psycopg2.ProgrammingError: permission denied for relation ir_lang
2010-09-10 18:54 <pheller> mgaz: for anything more than say 2 or 3 lines or text, please use pastebin or similar
2010-09-10 18:55 <mgaz> pheller: where can I find that?
2010-09-10 18:55 <pheller> http://www.pastebin.com
2010-09-10 18:55 <mgaz> pheller: thank you
2010-09-10 18:55 <pheller> you basically cut and paste into the form on that site, it will then give you a url, which you can paste here
2010-09-10 18:55 <mgaz> oh! I know understand
2010-09-10 18:56 <pheller> mgaz: it keeps the irc archives a little cleaner for reading and searching
2010-09-10 18:58 <mgaz> pheller: thank you for the tip
2010-09-10 18:58 <mgaz> http://pastebin.com/QBYBHTKt
2010-09-10 18:58 <mgaz> here we go
2010-09-10 18:59 <pheller> hmmh. have you tried running the server under two different uids by chance?
2010-09-10 19:00 <mgaz> not what I know of
2010-09-10 19:00 <mgaz> I just switched to the tryton user in the shell and run the command
2010-09-10 19:00 <pheller> ... and if you create a new db and try to login to it, same result?
2010-09-10 19:00 <cedk> mgaz: it is an access right issue on postgresql
2010-09-10 19:01 <mgaz> cedk: that is what I can read as well, only question is where?
2010-09-10 19:01 <mgaz> cedk: tryton is the owner of the DB
2010-09-10 19:01 <mgaz> cedk: and I would expect the language to be ready to use, as it is installed by default
2010-09-10 19:03 <cedk> mgaz: it is a wrong configuration of postgresql
2010-09-10 19:03 <mgaz> cedk: it is a clean tryton installation from the Ubuntu repository and a DB created from the client
2010-09-10 19:04 <mgaz> cedk: it is running without issues without the update command
2010-09-10 19:04 <cedk> mgaz: the use doesn't have access to the table ir_lang
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2010-09-10 19:05 <mgaz> cedk: but then why to all tables and just this one not
2010-09-10 19:05 <mgaz> cedk: it could load all modules and run them as you can see in the log
2010-09-10 19:05 <svaksha> mgaz: for python editor try stani's python editor (/me just read scrollback
2010-09-10 19:05 <cedk> mgaz: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/sql-grant.html
2010-09-10 19:06 <cedk> mgaz: I don't know, I don't have access to your database
2010-09-10 19:06 <mgaz> cedk: thank you for the URL. I know how to change the rights, I just do not know why just this table
2010-09-10 19:07 <mgaz> I know how to fix it, but I am interested to analyse this may be "failure"
2010-09-10 19:08 <cedk> mgaz: Tryton doesn't change any grantt access
2010-09-10 19:09 <cedk> mgaz: could you reproduce the issue?
2010-09-10 19:09 <mgaz> cedk: I followed a very normal installation procedure
2010-09-10 19:10 <mgaz> cedk: I will create a brand new DB
2010-09-10 19:10 <cedk> mgaz: retry it to see if it reproductible
2010-09-10 19:10 <mgaz> cedk: and test it again
2010-09-10 19:11 <cedk> mgaz: because nobody has this issue and personnaly I create DB very often for testing
2010-09-10 19:11 <mgaz> cedk: the main question for me is regarding the languages however. They are installed by default, so I would expect them enabled in the DB
2010-09-10 19:12 <mgaz> cedk: I am testing heavily on Ubuntu with the version 1.6 too
2010-09-10 19:12 <mgaz> cedk: English is not an issue
2010-09-10 19:12 <mgaz> cedk: everything is running smoothly there
2010-09-10 19:14 <mgaz> Timitos: thank you for the header tip. It works fine
2010-09-10 19:16 <mgaz> cedk: on a default install as you add a new user, you have just the english language as an option
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2010-09-10 19:28 <cedk> mgaz: because you don't have activated other languages
2010-09-10 19:29 <mgaz> cedk: not true
2010-09-10 19:29 <mgaz> cedk: All are enabled
2010-09-10 19:29 <mgaz> with the flag active
2010-09-10 19:29 <mgaz> cedk: I am just preparing a DB with test data
2010-09-10 19:30 <mgaz> cedk: you can then take a look at it
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2010-09-10 19:34 <mgaz> cedk: now I am getting even an ERROR. I will log it
2010-09-10 19:34 <mgaz> issue1684
2010-09-10 19:36 <mgaz> I think it it related to the header I removed from header.odt
2010-09-10 19:37 <mgaz> I did not want the company name and address in the header
2010-09-10 19:37 <mgaz> header_A4.odt
2010-09-10 19:39 <mgaz> yes it is
2010-09-10 19:41 <mgaz> cedk: even on a new database the language is not working
2010-09-10 19:41 <mgaz> cedk: can I post you the DB somewhere?
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2010-09-10 19:41 <mgaz> cedk: a test DB
2010-09-10 19:43 <mgaz> cedk: a 1.3 MB DB
2010-09-10 19:50 <cedk> mgaz: put it somewhere where it is downloadable
2010-09-10 19:58 <mgaz> is it possible to add a logo to the reports?
2010-09-10 20:00 <cedk> mgaz: yes
2010-09-10 20:01 <mgaz> cedk:I did that but then the report does not load until I remove the pic
2010-09-10 20:07 <cedk> mgaz: I don't understand "does not load"
2010-09-10 20:10 <mgaz> if you add a logo.jpg to the Sale.odt and then by calling the Sale Report, Openoffice displays a message that the report is corrupt
2010-09-10 20:11 <cedk> mgaz: do you use the last relatorio version?
2010-09-10 20:11 <mgaz> I have Ubuntu 10.10 with Tryton 1.6 from official repositories
2010-09-10 20:11 <mgaz> how can I check that?
2010-09-10 20:12 <cedk> mgaz: I don't know ubuntu
2010-09-10 20:12 <mgaz> no problem
2010-09-10 20:12 <mgaz> cedk: is it installed by the tryton package by default?
2010-09-10 20:13 <cedk> mgaz: I don't know
2010-09-10 20:13 <mgaz> cdek: is it mandatory for graphics in reports?
2010-09-10 20:14 <cedk> mgaz: it is a dependency of trytond
2010-09-10 20:17 <mgaz> cdek: I am using Version: 0.5.4-1
2010-09-10 20:17 <mgaz> cdek: of python-relatorio
2010-09-10 20:18 <cedk> mgaz: you should update to 0.5.5
2010-09-10 20:18 <mgaz> cdek: ok
2010-09-10 20:21 <mgaz> cdek: i did update
2010-09-10 20:22 <mgaz> cdek: it does not help
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2010-09-10 20:27 <cedk> mgaz: so need to see the odt generated
2010-09-10 20:28 <mgaz> cdek: ok
2010-09-10 20:35 <mgaz> cdek: could you please provide an FTP location to upload it or may be an email
2010-09-10 20:42 <cedk> mgaz: I don't have
2010-09-10 20:49 <mgaz> cdek: ...so how can I pass you the doc then?
2010-09-10 20:51 <cedk> mgaz: I don't know. Put a webserver on your host?
2010-09-10 20:51 <mgaz> cdek: then look at Issue1685 please
2010-09-10 20:51 <mgaz> cdek: is easier
2010-09-10 20:52 <mgaz> cdek: ...and many thanks for the tip!
2010-09-10 21:07 <pheller> cedk: proteus is looking very cool!
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