IRC logs of #tryton for Friday, 2010-09-03

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Fri Sep 3 00:00:03 CEST 2010
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2010-09-03 19:20 <sharoon> cedk: <<ping>>
2010-09-03 19:20 <cedk> sharoon: ok
2010-09-03 19:21 <cedk> sharoon: I analyzed the sqlalchemy migration
2010-09-03 19:21 <cedk> sharoon: it will be a big stuff (bigger then Transaction)
2010-09-03 19:21 <sharoon> cedk: great
2010-09-03 19:21 <sharoon> cedk: i agree, it must be huge
2010-09-03 19:21 <cedk> sharoon: so I propose that you do your namedtuple change
2010-09-03 19:21 <sharoon> cedk: ok, will proceed with that :)
2010-09-03 19:22 <cedk> sharoon: because 1.8 is in 2 months and we will not have SA
2010-09-03 19:22 <sharoon> cedk: may be we could push it to 1.9/2.0
2010-09-03 19:22 <cedk> sharoon: I will already starting working on the first step of SA migration
2010-09-03 19:22 <cedk> sharoon: yes, I think it could be ready for january
2010-09-03 19:22 <sharoon> cedk: can you confirm about _datetime? shall i change it to datetime_?
2010-09-03 19:23 <cedk> because we must not stop the dev just for that
2010-09-03 19:23 <sharoon> cedk: agree completely!
2010-09-03 19:24 <cedk> sharoon: is it really not possible to get around
2010-09-03 19:24 <sharoon> cedk: no way out AFAIK :(
2010-09-03 19:27 <cedk> by the way, I see in the doc it is only 2.6 ?
2010-09-03 19:28 <cedk> I see in the doc there is a rename param
2010-09-03 19:28 <cedk> sharoon: which I don't have in 2.6
2010-09-03 19:28 <sharoon> cedk: thats in the py2.6 recipe
2010-09-03 19:28 <sharoon> 2.6/2.4
2010-09-03 19:30 <cedk> sharoon: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/500261-named-tuples/
2010-09-03 19:31 <plantian> whoa whoa, you guys are moving to sqlalchemy ?
2010-09-03 19:31 <sharoon> plantian: nope
2010-09-03 19:31 <plantian> Oh, what is this talk about SA?
2010-09-03 19:32 <cedk> plantian: it is a plan to move to SA
2010-09-03 19:32 <cedk> plantian: but it is a long work
2010-09-03 19:32 <cedk> plantian: the goal is to use the SA expressions
2010-09-03 19:32 <cedk> plantian: but not the orm
2010-09-03 19:33 <cedk> and upgrade the current ORM of Tryton to something more similar
2010-09-03 19:33 <plantian> Yeah I know even with your massive amounts of work to clean the code it is still pretty rough in some places.
2010-09-03 19:33 <cedk> sharoon: I think we need to embed this version
2010-09-03 19:33 <sharoon> cedk: i think so too
2010-09-03 19:33 <plantian> oh okay, weird, yeah I've used the sql layer it is nice, you will be using it internally or just for module developers ?
2010-09-03 19:33 <sharoon> cedk: may be should ask hettinger why rename was not included in py2.6
2010-09-03 19:33 <cedk> sharoon: and with the rename you can have _datetime
2010-09-03 19:33 <sharoon> cedk: agree
2010-09-03 19:34 <cedk> plantian: I hope to be able to use it everywhere :-)
2010-09-03 19:35 <plantian> cedk: that would be awesome, you guys have gotten so much done, I really need to upgrade my tryton install
2010-09-03 19:36 <plantian> ha although upgrading is going to be a nightmare
2010-09-03 19:37 <cedk> plantian: why?
2010-09-03 19:38 <plantian> cedk: I just have some modules I wrote and I think they will need to be heavily updated with api changes that have been made.
2010-09-03 19:39 <cedk> plantian: ha yes
2010-09-03 19:39 <cedk> plantian: this is why it is better to make public module :-)
2010-09-03 19:39 <cedk> plantian: you get free upgrade :-)
2010-09-03 19:44 <plantian> cedk: Right I would make them public but I don't think other people could use them. I think you have developed more generic versions that I can use now. Pricelists at least. I think my inventory design probably still wont' fit with the existing one. That might be confusing if there are two right ?
2010-09-03 19:45 <plantian> Oh and I made a POS module but its just so tied to my business.
2010-09-03 19:46 <cedk> plantian: hard to say
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2010-09-03 19:48 <sharoon> plantian: releasing might make it a module more useful (catering ur needs + the extra benefits cedk said). free maintenence
2010-09-03 19:48 <plantian> cedk: I will retry to integrate them when I upgrade my installation.
2010-09-03 19:49 <plantian> When people release their modules do they put them on pypi?
2010-09-03 19:52 <cedk> plantian: yes at least me
2010-09-03 19:53 <plantian> I just found out you can upload sphinx documentation and have it hosted on packages.python.org so maybe I will do that eventually then. Although I usually put modules in mercurial forest via clone.
2010-09-03 20:01 <cedk> plantian: we encourage to use google code and tag it with tryton
2010-09-03 20:02 <cedk> plantian: http://labs.tryton.org/
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2010-09-03 22:25 <sharoon> cedk: rename is back in python 3
2010-09-03 22:26 <sharoon> cedk: and in python 2.7
2010-09-03 22:42 <cedk> sharoon: you should try if the standard namedtuple is good enough otherwise use a custom one
2010-09-03 22:43 <sharoon> cedk: sure, also checking PEP 307 to ensure pickling happens without additional conversion
2010-09-03 22:45 <cedk> sharoon: yes, it will be good to allow to send namedtuple with netrpc
2010-09-03 22:46 <sharoon> cedk: yep
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2010-09-03 23:44 <cedk> sharoon: by the way, I'm also thinking to re-merge ModelStorage and ModelSQL
2010-09-03 23:59 <sharoon> cedk: any specific reasons? what happens to ModelWorkflow?

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