IRC logs of #tryton for Monday, 2010-08-23

chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Aug 23 00:00:02 CEST 2010
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2010-08-23 16:16 <Hydrant> hey all
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2010-08-23 16:28 <paepke> hey Hydrant
2010-08-23 16:29 <Hydrant> hey
2010-08-23 16:30 <Hydrant> I've been scoping out various ERPs for my open-source company startup, and so far Tryton is the only one l actually like :-)
2010-08-23 16:30 <pheller> Hello Hydrant
2010-08-23 16:30 <paepke> Hydrant, very nice :-)
2010-08-23 16:31 <Hydrant> I'm not looking "to buy" and ERP, instead I'm looking to hire developers long-term to add features we need and contribute back to the project
2010-08-23 16:31 <Hydrant> most the other ERP projects seem to really miss the point of open-source software
2010-08-23 16:32 <paepke> Hydrant, what modules do you need?
2010-08-23 16:32 <pheller> I think you've found the right project, then. I think you'll find the goal here is to create a great framework and reference implementation that is accessible to all -- and also enable a market for integrators to profit from integration.
2010-08-23 16:32 <Hydrant> well, what I mean by my previous statement is that long-term I know we'll need more... short-term we're fine
2010-08-23 16:32 <pheller> ... but without any expensive partner programs.
2010-08-23 16:33 <Hydrant> right now... all I need is POs, invoices, and per-project management
2010-08-23 16:33 <Hydrant> I'm not an accountant
2010-08-23 16:34 <Hydrant> so right now I'm a "simple user"
2010-08-23 16:34 <Hydrant> I agree, partner programs are evil
2010-08-23 16:34 <Hydrant> I just need "one concurrent user" but OpenBravo has no such thing
2010-08-23 16:34 <paepke> Hydrant, sorry, but PO's? proposals?
2010-08-23 16:34 <Hydrant> plus... it's Java, which is evil
2010-08-23 16:34 <Hydrant> paepke: Purchase Orders
2010-08-23 16:34 <paepke> Hydrant, ah ok.
2010-08-23 16:34 <paepke> thats all aready in there.
2010-08-23 16:34 <Hydrant> yup
2010-08-23 16:35 <Hydrant> I'm going to install it this afternoon and try to figure out how to use it... I have no idea on the accounting side as I said
2010-08-23 16:35 <pheller> well, partner programs are not completely evil, but they should not cost many thousands of dollars -- especially when the project is open source.
2010-08-23 16:35 <paepke> if you don't want that accounting stuff, its a nearly ready to go solution. you have to tweak your reports (letter layout and stuff) and can go with the standard modules.
2010-08-23 16:35 <paepke> adding fields isn't that hard, but its a small module you have to write.
2010-08-23 16:36 <Hydrant> that's okay
2010-08-23 16:36 <Hydrant> I don't know what I need on the accounting side... our accountants will have to help us set that up
2010-08-23 16:36 <paepke> Hydrant, where are you from?
2010-08-23 16:36 <Hydrant> they were not too pleased when we indicated that we are going open-source
2010-08-23 16:36 <Hydrant> I'm in Toronto, Canada
2010-08-23 16:37 <paepke> Hydrant, ok. i don't know exactly if there is someone around here from canada which can help you with the standard law tricks you have to mention.
2010-08-23 16:38 <Hydrant> Tryton looks like a rather immature project in comparison with some of the others I saw listed on Wikipedia, is that fair to say ?
2010-08-23 16:39 <paepke> tryton drops a lot of code from openerp, where it comes from. and reimplented a lot of stuff. but some modules were not reinvented.
2010-08-23 16:39 <paepke> or reimplemented.
2010-08-23 16:39 <Hydrant> and there is nothing wrong with reimplementation
2010-08-23 16:40 <paepke> one of the bigger parts which isn't there is MRP. but there are already effords to implement this.
2010-08-23 16:41 <Hydrant> MRP ?
2010-08-23 16:41 <paepke> i you have youre modules already there its a very stable and good project.
2010-08-23 16:41 <paepke> Material Resource Planning.
2010-08-23 16:41 <Hydrant> okay
2010-08-23 16:41 <paepke> Production planning and stuff.
2010-08-23 16:42 <Hydrant> we are a small company, so I think we are good in the short-term, and I know long-term Tryton will get more features we need... as we add them ourselves, or as the project grows
2010-08-23 16:42 <Hydrant> my thought is that both will grow together
2010-08-23 16:42 <Hydrant> I have to check out the code and make sure it's decent
2010-08-23 16:46 <paepke> good way to work with tryton.
2010-08-23 16:47 <Hydrant> it's kinda saddening to see so many commercialized open-source projects totally missing the point
2010-08-23 16:48 <paepke> its not easy to find the right business model with opensource.
2010-08-23 16:48 <paepke> Hydrant, i'm afraid i have to go. be back later
2010-08-23 16:48 <Hydrant> okay
2010-08-23 16:48 <Hydrant> ttyl
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2010-08-23 17:34 <udono> Hydrant: hi
2010-08-23 17:34 <udono> Hydrant: one question: you said: I just need "one concurrent user" but OpenBravo has no such thing
2010-08-23 17:35 <udono> What does it mean exactly?
2010-08-23 17:36 <Hydrant> the professional version of openbravo is licensed per concurrent user
2010-08-23 17:37 <udono> Hydrant: Open Bravo free version just allow one user?
2010-08-23 17:37 <Hydrant> no, go look at openbravos site
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2010-08-23 18:55 <pheller> cedk: just added an example to the Issue1655 of how to duplicate
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2010-08-23 19:05 <cedk> pheller: there is nothing
2010-08-23 19:05 <pheller> oops, just added.
2010-08-23 19:19 <cedk> pheller: but we can discuss about this behavior in one2many list
2010-08-23 19:20 <pheller> cedk: I actually think that scrolling by the page is correct. I was just stupid and didn't think of it when I was working on this set_sensitive issue....
2010-08-23 19:21 <cedk> pheller: it makes more sense with large list
2010-08-23 19:22 <pheller> cedk: yes, exactly. it only confused me because I was looking at a list of 3 items when I discovered it.
2010-08-23 19:22 <pheller> cedk: perhaps the tooltip should be changed to "previous page" and "next page"
2010-08-23 19:23 <pheller> cedk: and maybe the controls should only be sensitive if the number of records is larger than the viewport
2010-08-23 19:27 <cedk> pheller: yes why not
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