| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Fri Jun 18 00:00:01 CEST 2010 | ||
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| 2010-06-18 14:52 <Fandekasp> hi | ||
| 2010-06-18 14:56 <Fandekasp> I'm a student, learning about ERP systems. I've looked quickly about tryton and openerp, as I like python programming, and I wonder what should I use ... Are you enjoying tryton ? What are its disadvantages according to you ? Thank you for your answer :) | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:02 <bechamel> Fandekasp: hi, for disadvantages vs openerp I don't see any, but maybe I'm not 100% objective :) | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:03 <bechamel> anyway, the biggest problem of tryton atm is the documentation | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:03 <Fandekasp> oh ok, so it's not easy to learn tryton, bechamel | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:04 <Fandekasp> How can tryton be as good as openerp when there are three times fewer developers ? | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:05 <bechamel> maybe because there are no correlation between the number of dev and the quality of the code | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:05 <Fandekasp> 6 times fewer sorry, according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Tryton_and_Open_ERP | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:06 <bechamel> and also because the dev effort of oerp is spilled across hundreds of modules without consistency | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:06 <Fandekasp> yes, you're right, but we can expect more results from 245 developers than from 40 ^^' | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:06 <Fandekasp> ok | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:07 <bechamel> Fandekasp: fyi http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/cfycv/has_anyone_here_used_openerp_are_your_experiences/ | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:08 <Fandekasp> lol it seems 100% objective too :P | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:08 <cedk> Fandekasp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:09 <Fandekasp> ok Thank you guys :) | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:10 <cedk> Fandekasp: but the only real proof is read the code of both, run it and you will see | ||
| 2010-06-18 15:11 <Fandekasp> yes of course, I'll do this later | ||
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| 2010-06-18 18:56 <cedk> yangoon: ping | ||
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| 2010-06-18 21:09 <cedk> paepke: I have seen any option to show result before vote | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:11 <paepke> cedk, you mean "haven't"? | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:12 <paepke> cedk, imho its a bad poll system about it. but i'm not sure that google moderator is the right system for polls. | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:15 <paepke> cedk, when you see how the others vote before you vote you get influenced by it. | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:19 <paepke> cedk, a question about something similar: have you already heard about http://uservoice.com/ ? maybe there is an opensource pendant to it. | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:22 <dba> also, the google poll requires a google account, and, | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:22 <dba> it doesn't allow to make comments. | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:23 <dba> e.g. i find both unique emails and realnames important, however, | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:23 <dba> i wouldn't want to enforce it. e.g. for debian-live, there's a contributor that is doing a privacy related downstream distribution, | ||
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| 2010-06-18 21:24 <dba> and he's not giving anything away but is nickname (and his $nickname@$domain.tld) | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:24 <dba> which is perfectly fine. i wouldn't want to miss his contributions over bikesheding about realnames or not. | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:24 <dba> (ymmv) | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:29 <paepke> cedk, nevertheless a good idea about that polls. | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:32 <dba> i like polls too | ||
| 2010-06-18 21:58 <udono> hi, I like polls, too. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:01 <udono> But for my experience most questions in real-life can not answered with yes or no. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:10 <cedk> dba: google account like for the mailing list | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:10 <cedk> dba: it is required to prevent vote spaming | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:10 <cedk> udono: you can send an anwser in moderator | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:11 <cedk> dba: how are you sure about copryrights? | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:12 <cedk> dba: as far as I know per example Linux ask to sign the patches | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:12 <cedk> dba: it is to prevent copyright and licence issues | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:14 <dba> cedk: for debian-live, everyone who's contributing is transfering all copyrights (!= authorship) to me anyway. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:14 <dba> for the documentation and translation, it's transfered to the debian-live project as a whole. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:16 <dba> copyright has nothing to do with the person having a realname or just a pseudonym. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:16 <dba> contributions to the kernel are for that matter a different issue, since they're actively working in a patent-encoumbered field. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:17 <dba> (which i guess is the real reason their requesting signed commits) | ||
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| 2010-06-18 22:21 <cedk> dba: we don't want to have people cede their copyright | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:21 <cedk> dba: I don't think it is linked to patent or at least not only that | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:22 <cedk> dba: the main issue is to identify the author of each line of code | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:22 <cedk> dba: to be able later to deal with licence change etc. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:22 <dba> cedk: when you have differnet people holding copyright, | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:23 <dba> in reality, there's always at least one that is holding back (willingly or unwillingly) | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:23 <dba> so from my point of view, i don't even consider to be able to change a license once there are more than one copyright holder, ever. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:24 <dba> (which is why for all non-documentation stuff in debian-live, we'll transfer copyright to me, so that i could change the license if needed). | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:25 <dba> about 'identify' the author, as said, this has from a legal point of view nothing to do with the person having a realname or a pseudonym only. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:26 <Mithrandir> I think it's a feature not being able to change the licence. | ||
| 2010-06-18 22:29 <dba> .oO(i don't, see gpl3.) | ||
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