| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu May 13 00:00:02 CEST 2010 | ||
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| 2010-05-13 13:24 <cedk> udono: I can not publish release on pypi for account_de_skr03 | ||
| 2010-05-13 13:25 <udono> cedk: ok, I'll do | ||
| 2010-05-13 13:25 <cedk> udono: or you can give me access | ||
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| 2010-05-13 13:26 <cedk> udono: you must register the right version | ||
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| 2010-05-13 13:26 <udono> cedk: yes, thanks | ||
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| 2010-05-13 13:50 <udono> cedk: I give you maintainer access to account_de_skr03. | ||
| 2010-05-13 13:51 <cedk> udono: ok thx | ||
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| 2010-05-13 17:27 <cedk> paepke: could you test again the exe | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:27 <cedk> paepke__: | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:28 <cedk> I have tried better fix then previously | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:29 <paepke> cedk, ok. give me a second. | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:32 <paepke> cedk, do i need to check something special? or only if it starts | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:33 <cedk> paepke: if it starts | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:35 <paepke> cedk, ok. both binaries start or installs & start | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:37 <cedk> paepke: thx | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:38 <cedk> paepke: I will have also neso to test | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:38 <paepke> cedk, ok. gimme a link | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:40 <cedk> ACTION generate neso exe | ||
| 2010-05-13 17:56 <cedk> paepke: http://www.b2ck.com/~ced/neso-setup-1.5.0.exe | ||
| 2010-05-13 18:02 <paepke> cedk, doesn't start | ||
| 2010-05-13 18:02 <paepke> cedk, really 1.5? | ||
| 2010-05-13 18:03 <cedk> paepke: it is not the issue | ||
| 2010-05-13 18:06 <paepke> cedk, ok. i can't get any error out of the .exe | ||
| 2010-05-13 18:12 <cedk> paepke: uploaded a new one | ||
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| 2010-05-13 18:15 <paepke> cedk, doesn't work | ||
| 2010-05-13 18:55 <paepke> cedk, bbl. just send me a pm and i'll test neso. | ||
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| 2010-05-13 23:18 <cedk> incore: hi | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:18 <cedk> incore: good to see you here | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:18 <incore> cedk: hello back, it's my first time in irc for almost 10 years | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:19 <cedk> incore: I find it is a better place to discuss then on twitter | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:20 <incore> definitely! it's kinda hard to express things in 140 chars | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:20 <incore> well - would you have a minute for a principal question? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:20 <cedk> incore: I use twitter because some people are only there otherwise I will never | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:21 <cedk> incore: yes | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:22 <incore> cedk: OK, as you might have read from our previous messages and tweets, we're about to implement a patient record and time scheduling system for physicians | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:23 <incore> cedk: in fact, that was our motivation to look into the Medical module for OpenERP | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:23 <cedk> incore: yes | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:24 <cedk> incore: and I suggested you to port it on Tryton | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:24 <incore> cedk: ..while Medical is great for the situation in developing countries, it is not really suitable for use within the EU - that's due to national social insurance regulations | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:25 <cedk> incore: what is wrong? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:25 <incore> cedk: that's exactly what I would like to do, but in a much more lightweight fashion | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:26 <incore> cedk: well, in Austria for for example you have to implement a certain Java-based API into _every_ medical system that should/could be sold to a physician | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:27 <cedk> incore: are you sure of that? I find strange to link to programing language | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:28 <incore> cedk: that is because the whole financial administration of any medical treatment is done centrally within the national social insurance system | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:28 <incore> cedk: yep, they have published an API | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:28 <incore> cedk: ..but that's not my point | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:28 <cedk> incore: yes, I understand that it requires to export data in a specific format but it must not be linked to Java | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:29 <cedk> incore: do you have links to API? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:29 <incore> cedk: yup -you're right, you don't have to implement it in Java. what I wanted to say is that the API itself is java-based | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:30 <incore> cedk: yes, in principle I have some documentation for that API (however I don't have it available now) | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:31 <incore> cedk: so linking that API is a future project | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:32 <incore> cedk: what I sould like to do as a start is to simply implement a patient record together with a time scheduling system for physicians | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:33 <incore> cedk: what we did so far is that we started implementing it as a module for OpenERP but we got stuck with the time scheduling | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:33 <cedk> incore: that is doable in Tryton | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:33 <cedk> incore: you should extend party to include patient data | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:33 <cedk> incore: and you can use CalDAV for scheduling | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:34 <cedk> incore: CalDAV means calendar module | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:34 <incore> cedk: the thins is that the system needs to be as simple as possible for the physician's assistants, ie somebody calls the physician, wants to fix an appointment for - say in a week's time- | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:35 <incore> and the assistant has to process the appointment, the kind of treatment and (if not already available) the patient's data | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:36 <incore> cedk: so my problem is that I need a simple application that can fulfill these requirements. | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:36 <cedk> incore: I suggest you to use CalDAV with CardDAV like that you will have patient information in the address book | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:38 <incore> cedk: I really like the idea and principle of CalDAV, but in my understanding that would mean that the assistant would have to switch forth and between different appications? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:38 <incore> cedk: ie processing the patient data within tryton, while managing the appointments within any calendar tool that speaks CalDAV | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:39 <cedk> incore: it depends | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:39 <cedk> incore: if patient data is only contact information then it can be done with CardDAV | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:39 <incore> cedk: in OpemERP the assistant has only one application - the client that has the calendar integrated | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:40 <incore> no it's not, it also holds all information on previous treatments, insurance etc. | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:41 <cedk> incore: except that in OpenERP the calendar is a crappy stuff | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:41 <incore> cedk: I hope my explanation was not too confusing for you. | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:41 <incore> cedk: YEP. I totally agree with you. | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:42 <incore> cedk: there we had the problem hat usually a treatment takes 10-15 minutes | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:42 <cedk> incore: so I prefer having two application opened then one crappy | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:43 <incore> cedk: but the OpenERP calendar does not allow to stretch the time axis in a way that one can really distinguish these short appointments in day view | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:43 <cedk> incore: and people are familiar to switch into calendar application | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:43 <cedk> incore: like for emails | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:44 <cedk> incore: yes that is why it is better to have a real calendar application which was build for this purpose | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:44 <cedk> incore: like sunbird or evolution | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:45 <incore> cedk: ok, assuming we use CalDAV, is there a way to give different categories to events? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:45 <cedk> incore: or even outlook if http://openconnector.org/ works | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:45 <incore> cedk: we need that to distinguish different treantments | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:46 <cedk> incore: yes, do you have sunbird or lightning ? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:47 <incore> cedk: yup, every now and then I use sunbird to check Google Calendar events | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:47 <cedk> incore: so you will have the same event windows to edit | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:48 <incore> cedk: so I would need to associate CalDAV events with a) a distinct patient and b) a certain type of treatment | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:49 <cedk> incore: treatment could be categories | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:49 <cedk> incore: and patient will be linked by attendees (email) | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:50 <cedk> incore: so the system shoudl generate an internal email for patients | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:50 <incore> cedk: sorry, I did't get that | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:50 <incore> cedk: treatment -> category OK | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:51 <incore> cedk: patient ? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:52 <cedk> incore: in CalDAV world to link an event to external people it uses attendees | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:52 <cedk> incore: and attendees are generaly identified by their email addresses | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:53 <cedk> incore: but I think it can be any string | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:53 <incore> cedk: ok, I understand | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:53 <cedk> incore: but calendar application propose email autocompletion bases on address book | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:54 <cedk> incore: so with the party_vcarddav you will retrieve patient in address book | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:54 <incore> cedk: ok... | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:55 <cedk> incore: but as you will need an email and I guess that physicians do not have it, Tryton will need to generate one for internal purpose | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:55 <incore> cedk: yep | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:56 <incore> cedk: does the party_vcarddav update the address book automatically upon adding a new party? | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:56 <cedk> incore: yes of course | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:56 <cedk> incore: but you need a calendar client that supports carddav also | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:57 <cedk> incore: lightning will do | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:57 <incore> cedk: ok, i've only tried lightning once on linux. i guess windows binaries are available | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:58 <incore> cedk: ..because all this stuff has to run under windows | ||
| 2010-05-13 23:59 <cedk> incore: ligthning is in 1.0beta1 |
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