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| 2010-04-27 00:00 <tech9iner> poor timing me end anyway.. 15 minute glances rare in such suite / system demos known.. | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:01 <tech9iner> any present with eok that run tryton on opensuse? | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:01 <cedk> tech9iner: don't know, did you check the INSTALL file? | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:02 <cedk> tech9iner: there are all the dependencies | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:04 <tech9iner> cedk: tx the sequel ;].. alas client calls now.. install clarifies things.. shall give it a college try later.. ciao4now and tx your time.. oh btw please.. one last ?.. which OSS competitor CRM/ERM is closest to your please? | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:04 <tech9iner> cedk: *closest to tryton please? | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:06 <cedk> tech9iner: I should say OpenERP but Tryton is smaller but more stable and open | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:09 <tech9iner> cedk: mucho tx for your kind time lad.. tis appreciated.. i've actually been in touch w myerp too.. btw.. one hoped for feature?.. is mobile access via my android G1 smartphone?.. | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:09 <tech9iner> myerp team doesnt have mobile clients per se.. but are convinced my mobile browser should function enough for in the field? | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:11 <tech9iner> invoicing and more tedious functions would be done on my laptop.. but quotes and/or sales calls etc.. would be handy from mobile.. | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:11 <cedk> tech9iner: I think it should be possible to run the client on mobile phone if it gets GTK lib | ||
| 2010-04-27 00:11 <tech9iner> ah.. grand pt indeed.. mk.. this client needs me eok for one such quote ;]].. ciao4now and thanks again cedk lad.. ;]].. | ||
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| 2010-04-27 08:18 <udono> cedk: Hi, for domain section in the doc I need another section about Pyson. So I better start with the pyson doc? | ||
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| 2010-04-27 08:31 <cedk> udono: alright | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:32 <cedk> udono: start with the ref one | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:36 <udono> cedk: ok. | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:37 <udono> cedk: about http://codereview.appspot.com/907042 I have problems to put the patch into my doc/ folder with patch < ../issue907042_45001.diff | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:37 <udono> cedk: any idea? | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:38 <udono> doc/ directry is tip | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:40 <cedk> udono: | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:40 <cedk> udono: yes | ||
| 2010-04-27 08:42 <cedk> udono: I have re-uploaded tip patch | ||
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| 2010-04-27 16:40 <udono> bechamel: Hi, do you know from where the the pyson syntax is borrowed? Is it scheme as you mentioned in an E-Mail? | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:42 <bechamel> udono: it's json + cedk ideas | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:42 <udono> bechamel: :-) | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:43 <udono> bechamel: Just the syntax like a(b(c())) | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:43 <udono> It looks a little like Scheme | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:44 <udono> scheme say (a (b (c ()))) | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:46 <sharoon> udono: bechamel: saw the mail on GWT | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:47 <sharoon> udono: do you think its better to have a WSGI service implementing CRUD right inside server than have a separate client? | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:47 <bechamel> udono: it's just that a(b(c())) is easily implemented as function call | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:47 <udono> bechamel: yes, ok | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:49 <bechamel> sharoon: wgsi is easier to implement but it will not feel like an application, it will feel/be like a dynamic website, while gwt is really an app in the browser | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:49 <udono> sharoon: good question. | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:49 <sharoon> bechamel: i agree on that | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:50 <sharoon> bechamel: is it possible to use the JS components generated by GWT | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:50 <sharoon> bechamel: i have not worked on GWT | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:52 <bechamel> sharoon: gwt is more a framework than another js library, actually the GWT implementation directly call the tryton server with json-rpc and behaves exactly like the gtk client. | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:53 <sharoon> bechamel: ok | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:55 <paepke> bechamel, why not using one of the two other big frameworks like jquery or dojo? can't remember that framework from apple. | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:56 <paepke> bechamel, i'm interested in the technological decission. don't want to bash around here. | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:56 <bechamel> paepke: I don't like java, but writing java in gwt is still better than javascript :) | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:57 <paepke> bechamel, will that generated javascript be reusable ? | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:57 <bechamel> paepke: plus, gwt is made for creating applications in the browser (i.e. google reader, google wave, etc) while jquery and co are more "dynamic website" | ||
| 2010-04-27 16:58 <bechamel> paepke: no the generated javascript is the result of a java>javascript compilation + code optimisation + compression, so it is really not reusable | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:00 <udono> bechamel: what about using Jython for similarities in the gtk client and the gwt client? Is there a way? | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:02 <bechamel> udono: no a gwt app doesn't run on the jvm, there is a compilation step that transform the java code into javascript (and the compilator happens to be written in java but it could be any other language) | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:02 <paepke> bechamel, i found some time ago that phonegap framework which looks very promising for generating a cross-platform mobile application. its based on webkit as engine and javascript as programming language. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:04 <udono> bechamel: ok. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:06 <bechamel> paepke: for a phone 'frontend' I'm in favor of a simple wsgi solution, because a mobile client is most of the time only to read data (so no need of a lot of javascript) + it's less cpu intensive for the phone. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:09 <paepke> bechamel, with that phonegap stuff it will behave like a native application on that phones. the current smartphones have enough power to run that java-script stuff. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:10 <sharoon> bechamel: i dont like Java either, but knowing how openerp spent months/years in manually resolving issues with the JS combatibility in webclient, GWT may be safer and faster | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:11 <bechamel> sharoon: yes and gwt is really mature now | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:11 <paepke> sharoon, do you know which framework does the openerp guys use? | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:11 <sharoon> paepke: a deadone... mochikit | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:12 <paepke> sharoon, ok. bad news for them. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:13 <bechamel> paepke: yes, but what i wanted to say is that for a small/mobile client it's easier to something "the old way" to the contrary of a full-blown "browser app" where gwt is clearly needed | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:14 <paepke> bechamel, for me the counterparts of gwt is that the generated js-code is not reusable. and that you have to write it in java. cause java != javascript in any sense. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:15 <bechamel> paepke: why do you want to reuse it ? | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:15 <paepke> bechamel, i think youre on the right way. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:15 <paepke> bechamel, cause of phonegap. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:15 <paepke> bechamel, well. i have not written any code yet with that framework. it currently in my mind. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:16 <paepke> bechamel, it looks easier not to reinvent the wheel if there is already javascript code (but its not usable...) | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:18 <paepke> bechamel, but maybe that phonegap is crap. i'm just putting my 2c into this discussion | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:20 <bechamel> paepke: I don't know if there would be a way to share code between a mobile client and a non-mobile client and still having non-bloated code-base. | ||
| 2010-04-27 17:25 <paepke> bechamel, that apps will not be loaded from the web on demand. they got installed on the mobile client. | ||
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| 2010-04-27 19:20 <udono> cedk: hi, I am unsure about my documentation of PYSON. May you give it a short content review on http://codereview.appspot.com/975044 ? | ||
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| 2010-04-27 19:35 <cedk> udono: it should be split in two parts one topic and on ref | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:36 <cedk> udono: PYSON are not method | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:36 <cedk> udono: JSON is not linked to Python type | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:41 <udono> cedk: what is the content in topic, what is the content in ref? Topics seems target more general and how-to-use. ref seems to be framework api. Is this right? | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:42 <cedk> udono: yes | ||
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| 2010-04-27 19:43 <udono> cedk: I ask me why not using autodoc for the api stuff? | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:43 <udono> cedk: so it dos not duplicate the __doc__ | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:43 <udono> s/dos/does/ | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:44 <cedk> udono: it doesn't make good doc | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:44 <cedk> udono: nor reference etc. | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:44 <cedk> udono: and doc should not be duplicate with docstring | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:48 <udono> cedk: but api doc is actually like a duplicate of docstring | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:51 <cedk> udono: will be remove from the code | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:51 <udono> cedk: so we remove the docstrings from code? | ||
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| 2010-04-27 19:58 <cedk> udono: duplicate | ||
| 2010-04-27 19:59 <udono> cedk: hm, ok. But what is the difference of ref doc and docstring? | ||
| 2010-04-27 20:05 <cedk> udono: like in Python | ||
| 2010-04-27 20:07 <udono> cedk: ok, thanks | ||
| 2010-04-27 20:50 <udono> cedk: what do you mean with 'context' in http://codereview.appspot.com/975044/diff/1/2#newcode54 ? | ||
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