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| 2010-03-18 12:05 <datrus0> hello | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:06 <datrus0> can someone explain the difference with openerp regarding procurement orders? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:06 <datrus0> (in openerp, sales orders create procurement orders when confirmed) | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:06 <datrus0> and then the scheduler creates purchase orders from procurement orders | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:07 <cedk> datrus0: we think that purchase request must be created based on stock quantities | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:07 <datrus0> so in tryton, purchase request is equivalent of procurement.order or are there some differences? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:07 <cedk> datrus0: it is different | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:08 <cedk> datrus0: procurement in OpenERP is something between the sale and the stock moves | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:08 <cedk> datrus0: purchase request are something between stock moves and purchase | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:08 <cedk> datrus0: it allow to group purchase by products and suppliers | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:09 <cedk> datrus0: if you prefer, we put the procurement concept into the stock move | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:09 <datrus0> so the sale order, just creates the reservation moves to send product to customer? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:09 <cedk> datrus0: yes | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:10 <datrus0> and then purchase.requests are created based on these moves? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:11 <cedk> datrus0: yes based on stock quantities, delivery delay, quantities (order point) etc. | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:11 <datrus0> also i see that purchase request is only for 1 product | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:11 <cedk> datrus0: there is also a module to compute based on delivery day of the week | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:11 <datrus0> is there no need to create purchase requests that can include many products with diffwrent lines | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:12 <cedk> datrus0: no, purcahse request define the needs to buy a products | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:12 <cedk> datrus0: then you can group them into one purchase | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:12 <bechamel> datrus0: the flow is SO confirmation trigger shipment creation (and thus outgoing draft stock moves), then the scheduler is run and creates Purchase requests (based on stock levels, taking care of draft moves and their planned date and existing purchases request), then the user can group purchase requests by supplier and create purchases (which will create incoming shipments) | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:14 <datrus0> also in tryton is there a module to record "purchase requirements"? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:14 <datrus0> i mean normally when a sales man needs to make a quotation | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:14 <datrus0> sometime he doesn't know the price of the product yet | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:15 <datrus0> (because it's the first time he sells the product for example) | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:15 <datrus0> and then normally he creates a "purchase requirement" document | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:15 <datrus0> and then gives this document to purch dept. | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:15 <datrus0> and purch dept. tries to contact the suppliers to get price based on purch requirements | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:15 <cedk> datrus0: we had a purchase_user_request module but not yet published | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:15 <datrus0> and then sales man uses that price to make quotation | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:16 <datrus0> (but purch requirement is not really purch.request, because purch.request will be created only after SO is confirmed) | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:16 <cedk> datrus0: but I'm not sure it is the right way for this need | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:16 <cedk> datrus0: if you don't know the product you sell, then you must first create it | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:16 <cedk> datrus0: you can record this kind of jobs with a form | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:17 <cedk> datrus0: it seems to be a simple workflow | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:17 <datrus0> yes, but a document is needed to tell purch.dept to search price for product | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:17 <datrus0> before product can be created | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:18 <datrus0> what about quotations received from suppliers | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:19 <datrus0> are they recorded in purchase.order objects? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:19 <datrus0> or in different objects | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:20 <datrus0> sometimes might be useful to record supplier quotation, not part of a purchase but only following a purchase requirement | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:20 <cedk> datrus0: purchase workflow is almost the same as in OpenERP | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:20 <cedk> datrus0: there is some plan to have history on it and manage quotation from different supplier | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:22 <datrus0> in openerp there is some way do it although not very convenient, using purchase.tender. but that module is too simple | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:22 <cedk> datrus0: from which module? | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:22 <datrus0> purchase_tender | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:22 <datrus0> it justs adds a many2one field in purchase.order | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:23 <datrus0> so to record many supplier quotations | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:23 <datrus0> make many PO's in RFQ state and record quotation info thjere | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:23 <datrus0> and then only advance the PO of selected supplier to next state | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:23 <datrus0> (other po's of same tender become cancelled) | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:25 <cedk> datrus0: I don't see the cancelation of other PO in the module | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:26 <cedk> datrus0: oops I saw it | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:27 <cedk> datrus0: I think it is a bad design because it creates too much purchase orders | ||
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| 2010-03-18 12:27 <cedk> datrus0: so you can not have a good prevision of your expense nor the incoming products | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:28 <cedk> datrus0: I though about using the Tryton history feature to store different quotation and allow to select one | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:34 <datrus0> have to leave, thanks for ur answers | ||
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| 2010-03-18 12:58 <cedk> SilverFox1971: hi | ||
| 2010-03-18 12:59 <cedk> SilverFox1971: did you read http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowtoTranslate | ||
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| 2010-03-18 13:32 <SilverFox1971> Hello cedk | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:33 <cedk> SilverFox1971: what is your issue with translation? | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:33 <SilverFox1971> I have files *.csv for modules, server and client tryton 1.4 | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:33 <cedk> SilverFox1971: great | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:34 <cedk> SilverFox1971: but translation process is only allow on the trunk | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:35 <cedk> SilverFox1971: if you want you can become the maintainer of the ru translation | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:36 <cedk> SilverFox1971: you just have to enter your info in http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ProjectOrganization | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:36 <cedk> SilverFox1971: send me by email your ssh pub key and username request | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:37 <cedk> SilverFox1971: I will give you push access for translation | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:37 <SilverFox1971> Ok | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:37 <cedk> SilverFox1971: your translation could be included in the 1.6 release (in one month) | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:38 <cedk> SilverFox1971: have you already a wiki access? | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:39 <SilverFox1971> No | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:40 <cedk> SilverFox1971: send me also your google account | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:40 <SilverFox1971> Ok | ||
| 2010-03-18 13:43 <cedk> SilverFox1971: you can also submit a first patch to add ru in ir.lang | ||
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| 2010-03-18 15:21 <cedk> SilverFox1971: I added you to the wiki | ||
| 2010-03-18 15:22 <cedk> SilverFox1971: for your username, could you give me a simplier? | ||
| 2010-03-18 15:23 <cedk> SilverFox1971: is it ok "silverfox" ? | ||
| 2010-03-18 15:47 <SilverFox1971> Ok | ||
| 2010-03-18 15:49 <cedk> SilverFox1971: is editing wiki works? | ||
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| 2010-03-18 15:56 <SilverFox1971> It's work! Thank you | ||
| 2010-03-18 15:58 <cedk> SilverFox1971: so add your info on http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/ProjectOrganization | ||
| 2010-03-18 16:01 <SilverFox1971> Ok cedr | ||
| 2010-03-18 16:03 <SilverFox1971> Bye we already 9:00 PM | ||
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| 2010-03-18 21:45 <juanfe> cedk: I have bin change the hg.tryton.org/www.tryton.org/services.t2t but I have no authorization to push the change, there are one repositore in intuxication to send it? | ||
| 2010-03-18 22:31 <cedk> juanfe: send me the path | ||
| 2010-03-18 22:33 <juanfe> cedk: hg.tryton.org/www.tryton.org/services.t2t | ||
| 2010-03-18 22:33 <cedk> juanfe: oops the patch | ||
| 2010-03-18 22:34 <juanfe> :-) | ||
| 2010-03-18 22:34 <juanfe> K I will send by email | ||
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