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| 2010-02-10 21:26 <cedk> sharoon: hi, I did not well understand your tweet about Tryton and website | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:26 <cedk> sharoon: can you explain me? | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:27 <sharoon> cedk: i use tryton as a module for our website backend. Our customers can track status of a project and other details using the django app... but accounts and invoice was missing. We started using tryton for accounting last month and now i have interfaced it to django... so customers can see their invoices online | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:27 <sharoon> cedk: right now building the paypal payment feature so i can quickly get payments also | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:28 <cedk> sharoon: ok, I understand | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:28 <sharoon> cedk: the only screwup still remains not being able to generate pdfs | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:29 <cedk> sharoon: if you want you can make a news for the tryton website about your usage | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:29 <sharoon> sure | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:29 <sharoon> cedk: i will write it up and snd you | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:29 <cedk> sharoon: great | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:29 <cedk> sharoon: yesterday, you did not answer me about your OS for pdf generation | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:30 <sharoon> cedk: ubuntu 9.10 | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:30 <cedk> sharoon: is uno module compiled for the right python version? | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:30 <sharoon> cedk: i installed using apt | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:31 <cedk> sharoon: by the way, I think about adding your sale_opportunity module on the roadmap | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:31 <sharoon> cedk: :-) | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:32 <cedk> sharoon: sometimes I got issue with python interact because of dead soffice process | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:33 <sharoon> cedk: i am trying to figure out the issue, but did not have much time yesterday | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:33 <cedk> sharoon: so I need to kill soffice to get it works again | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:33 <sharoon> cedk: will let you know of any updates | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:34 <cedk> sharoon: it is sad that Ooo doesn't provide a library to make format conversion | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:35 <cedk> sharoon: but it seems it is a work in progress, I saw a talk at fosdem about ODF tools | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:35 <sharoon> cedk: agree, and inspite of the popularity PDF conversion is still a pain | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:35 <sharoon> cedk: great to hear that | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:35 <cedk> sharoon: but they progress very slowly because ODF is a big stuff | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:35 <sharoon> cedk: ok | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:36 <cedk> sharoon: so I think we can not expect something before 2 years | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:36 <sharoon> cedk: thats very long... | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:36 <cedk> sharoon: Ooo is developped by very few guys | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:36 <sharoon> cedk: ok | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:37 <cedk> sharoon: and I don't know how Oracle will handle Ooo | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:37 <sharoon> cedk: agree | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:37 <cedk> sharoon: perhaps we should look at koffice or abiword | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:38 <sharoon> cedk: never tried abiword | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:39 <cedk> sharoon: I just checked it seems they don't handle correctly ODF | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:39 <sharoon> cedk: :( | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:41 <cedk> sharoon: I also already thought about improving the current report engine to have more output format | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:42 <cedk> sharoon: because Ooo has really a lot of input/output format | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:42 <sharoon> cedk: i there no other way of converting to PDF after rendering be relatorio? | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:42 <sharoon> be* by | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:43 <cedk> sharoon: I have looked longtime but did not find anything | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:44 <sharoon> cedk: i wish there was some alternative | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:46 <cedk> sharoon: I wish ODF became a well know standard :-) | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:47 <cedk> sharoon: any way according to this http://groups.google.com/group/tryton-dev/browse_thread/thread/d0839c7c677026b3 | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:47 <sharoon> cedk: i was surprised to see that office 2007 supports it... it opens an ODT | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:47 <cedk> sharoon: we will need to be able to generate directly pdf for very long report | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:48 <cedk> sharoon: yes it was announced, but according to the sun guy (at fosdem) there is no way to verify if it handles correctly | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:48 <sharoon> cedk: agree, | ||
| 2010-02-10 21:49 <cedk> ACTION go to lunch | ||
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| 2010-02-10 22:28 <mlhamel> hello | ||
| 2010-02-10 22:28 <mlhamel> tryton and zc.buildout | ||
| 2010-02-10 22:29 <mlhamel> did you try it ? | ||
| 2010-02-10 22:29 <mlhamel> I have a small problem with trytond's setup.py script | ||
| 2010-02-10 22:29 <mlhamel> it seems that the bin dir is not packaged correctly | ||
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| 2010-02-10 22:47 <mlhamel> buildout bug... sorry | ||
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| 2010-02-10 23:36 <cedk> mlhamel: what was the issue? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:37 <mlhamel> no problem it's just a bug in zc.buildout, the trytond scripts was not correctly copied in the bin dir | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:37 <mlhamel> your setup.py file was correctly made | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:37 <cedk> mlhamel: don't know zc.buildout | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:37 <cedk> mlhamel: ok fine | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:38 <mlhamel> buildout is build/deployement system in python | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:38 <mlhamel> very cool, and simple, which is something not common for a tools made by some zope guys | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:39 <mlhamel> oh by the, I was evaluation tryton for my company, very cool, and very clean | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:39 <mlhamel> but we really need a web interface | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:39 <mlhamel> do you think it's something "easy" to port etiny for tryton ? | ||
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| 2010-02-10 23:40 <cedk> mlhamel: I will not encourage to start from etiny | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:41 <cedk> mlhamel: we have made some preparation for a coming web client | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:41 <mlhamel> and do you have a timeframe ? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:41 <cedk> mlhamel: we have perhaps the possibility to write one (not yet confirm) | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:42 <mlhamel> I may be available for help if needed | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:42 <cedk> mlhamel: what is your need for a web client? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:42 <mlhamel> In fact, we are evaluating the possibility to replace our old erp system, and we need to be able to acces it from different sources | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:42 <mlhamel> and different computer | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:43 <mlhamel> and installing a software on all machine is not necessarly possible | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:43 <mlhamel> in fact my boss ask to taked a look at openerp | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:43 <sharoon> mlhamel: you have an update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openobject-server/+bug/520006 | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:44 <mlhamel> hehe | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:44 <sharoon> mlhamel: looks like your bug made it to the serious list, otherwise it would have been into the bin | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:44 <mlhamel> yeah this is before i discovered tryton | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:44 <cedk> mlhamel: sharoon had made some connection between tryton and a django website | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:45 <sharoon> mlhamel: if you really want to use tryton as a system web for some limited functionality then its a 5 mins job once you have some html and css... just use tryton as a module | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:45 <mlhamel> you mean, sharoon created a kind of simple concept of web application in django | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:46 <sharoon> mlhamel: i dint create a concept i used: http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/HowToUseTrytondAsAModule | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:46 <mlhamel> yeah but I think I don't have a complete idea of the complexity to develop a equivalent client | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:46 <sharoon> mlhamel: maintaining two clients according to me isnt a good idea | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:47 <cedk> mlhamel: I have made a prototype with GWT and I estimate a full feature web client will take 2 months | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:47 <sharoon> mlhamel: lot of pain like what Open ERP has... the webclient just sucks... can share some client abuses with you ;-) | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:47 <mlhamel> yeah maybe you right but in fact I was contemplating the idea of having the less posible logic in the client and to make every needed parts | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:47 <cedk> sharoon: I started by making it working exactly the same as the GTK one | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:48 <mlhamel> you mean tryton client was not just a fork, you re-coded ? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:49 <cedk> mlhamel: we made some changes since openerp fork, to fix stuffs | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:49 <sharoon> mlhamel: it 'was' a fork, but today tryton as a framework is much better than openobject, the framework that Open ERP works on.... technically much superior | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:49 <mlhamel> yes this is exactly what I saw on your website that i liked | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:49 <cedk> sharoon: for me openobject is not yet a framework :-) | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:50 <mlhamel> unitest | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:50 <mlhamel> buildbot | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:50 <mlhamel> each module/component in a egg | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:50 <cedk> mlhamel: everything is not yet fine but it is a work in progress | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:50 <mlhamel> a real python application and corretly package | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:50 <sharoon> cedk: sent something interesting to your mail | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:51 <cedk> mlhamel: I wanted it (I'm a gentoo dev and I know how it can be difficult to distribute application) | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:51 <mlhamel> hey guys I have to go but I'll come back later cause I may have some other questions for you | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:51 <cedk> sharoon: not yet receive but we have greylisting | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:52 <cedk> mlhamel: I think we will know for the webclient in one week | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:53 <mlhamel> cool and as I says, if we can help... | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:53 <mlhamel> ciao | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:54 <cedk> sharoon: received | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:54 <cedk> sharoon: what is the interesting part? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:55 <sharoon> cedk: arent fables interesting? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:55 <cedk> sharoon: always the same marketing blabla | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:56 <cedk> sharoon: I find the sun joke very funny | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:56 <sharoon> cedk: nothing serious anyway, just something to laugh about | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:56 <cedk> sharoon: ok did not understand you at first :-) | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:57 <sharoon> cedk: wanted to reply: rewrite 'Sun' by oracle | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:57 <cedk> sharoon: did you see my question about lock with mysql? | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:57 <sharoon> cedk: its a known issue right, and no solution yet | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:57 <cedk> sharoon: I thought about locking all tables | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:58 <cedk> sharoon: so it will behave like the sqlite backend | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:58 <sharoon> cedk: MySQL --- not for an ERP atleast! | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:59 <sharoon> cedk: even sqllite makes sense to me and same with NESO... but not sure if mysql is such an important idea | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:59 <cedk> sharoon: yes, I will not recommend it for large stuff | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:59 <sharoon> not even sure of its future | ||
| 2010-02-10 23:59 <cedk> sharoon: it was 1.5 days of dev and I found it was funny to do it at the same time OpenERP announce sun partnership with a SA branch that doesn't work |
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