| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Thu Feb 4 00:00:02 CET 2010 | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:00 <cedk> sharoon: I don't know if it is doable nor good design, it depends of the architecture of network and the information needed etc | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:00 <sharoon> cedk: i like the idea! but the limitation would be the network | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:00 <cedk> sharoon: but it is an option that must be evaluated | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:01 <cedk> sharoon: if not just made a sync | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:02 <sharoon> cedk: got it, now one more question.... is it possible to batch perform operations like invoicing, packing etc from list view? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:02 <vengfulsquirrel> What does "tax include" mean ? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:03 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it is not common in country without VAT :-) | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:03 <cedk> sharoon: what do you mean by batch? grouped or underground? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:03 <sharoon> grouped | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:04 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it is when you sell product and the price is with all taxes included | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:04 <cedk> sharoon: it is possible to write a wizard | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:04 <vengfulsquirrel> oh interesting | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:04 <sharoon> vengfulsquirrel: tac include means a price like 100 EUR is inlusive of tax, so if the tax is 4% then the amounts are (Base:96.154 & Rest as Tax) | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:05 <sharoon> cedk: i understand | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:05 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: the main issue is that most of the time you can not compute the net price and taxe amount | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:05 <vengfulsquirrel> Right, you cannot extract the base price you mean ? Ie. you lost information | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:05 <vengfulsquirrel> *lose | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:06 <cedk> sharoon: with bechamel we thought about improving buttons on list view | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:06 <sharoon> cedk: that would be a good idea, since most of the buttons are written for ids | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:06 <cedk> sharoon: and now I think we could have an interface to activate all button of a list | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:07 <sharoon> cedk: you mean buttons on a list? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:07 <sharoon> cedk: buttons on a list view or separate actions? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:07 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: yes, it is not that you lost information but it is because price are writen to have marketing behavior like 99.99€ | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:08 <sharoon> cedk: cant we achieve this with high precision or money type in postgres/ | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:08 <sharoon> ? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:08 <cedk> sharoon: buttons on a list already exist but we don't use it because it is not yet enough good | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:08 <sharoon> cedk: ok | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:09 <cedk> sharoon: no, because on account move you must have currency precision | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:10 <cedk> sharoon: it is the same issue then https://lists.launchpad.net/openerp-expert-accounting/msg00016.html | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:10 <sharoon> cedk: India's largest accounting package Tally (http://www.tallysolutions.com/website/html/index.html) has this issue and they still have not got over it | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:11 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: did you find the lock issue? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:11 <vengfulsquirrel> As a side note, I import sales with a batch program from a website and then run the workflows in tryton with a program, filling in defaults as necessary. Also I created a crude POS interface inside tryton. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:12 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: No, I tried recreating the stall problem and the operation that ran in 12 minutes now runs in < 12 seconds after I restart trytond. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:12 <vengfulsquirrel> I think it must be a memory leak of some sort. I have no idea what else would cause that. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:12 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: strange | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:12 <vengfulsquirrel> Or I guess you were saying some sort of connection leak, where connections are piling up and not getting closed. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:13 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: we don't have this on our tryton servers that runs on long period | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:13 <vengfulsquirrel> I'm sure it has to do with large number of records. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:13 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: perhaps a cron job that doesn't scale | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:14 <vengfulsquirrel> We also have intermittant network issues which could possible exacerbate some sort of clean up problems. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:14 <sharoon> cedk: happy to say that we did our first tryton project and delivered faster by one day despite our 'tough' code reviews | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:14 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Cron jobs run and die though, and I do not run them during the day because they make the clients unusable. I think maybe due to stock allocation needing to lock the stock tables. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:15 <vengfulsquirrel> That is another issue, but I don't think that would permenantly effect the server. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:15 <cedk> sharoon: good, when we said to our customer that we have always delivery in time, they never beleive us :-) | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:15 <sharoon> cedk: is anybody working on the email side, from what we have seen so far of tryton i think the only thing thats needed now is the generic triggers and i think you guys may have to do it. | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:15 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: It is some sort of problem that developes over time, I had the server running since Jan 16th, so that is like a little over 2 weeks. Have you had servers running longer than that ? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: lock could be fixed by http://code.google.com/p/tryton/wiki/Release_1_6_0#stock | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:16 <cedk> sharoon: not yet, only thought | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:16 <sharoon> cedk: email we could write the rest of the framework just like how we made poweremail. with generic email accounts and mailboxes | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:17 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: yes but they have less volum then yours | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:18 <cedk> sharoon: yes but it must be well design to be powerfull | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:18 <cedk> sharoon: I think mailboxes more like label in gmail | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:19 <sharoon> cedk: thats yes how we did before too, just a field to say which folder it is in | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:19 <sharoon> cedk: we will keep you in the loop with blueprints before we actually start digging | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:19 <cedk> sharoon: I think also that an email could be in many folders | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:20 <sharoon> cedk: possible, you mean m2m label? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:20 <cedk> sharoon: yes | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:20 <sharoon> cedk: whats the release 1.6 planned? | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:20 <sharoon> cedk: when | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:21 <cedk> sharoon: http://www.tryton.org/community/calendar.html | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:21 <cedk> sharoon: 12 april | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:22 <sharoon> cedk: can i follow your calendar, is there a link/ | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:25 <cedk> sharoon: I can give you xml, ical and html link | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:26 <cedk> sharoon: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/p4jhgp9j5a2ehndebdglo6tslg@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:26 <sharoon> cedk: its a google calendar right? so if you share the URL i can add it to my google cal | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:27 <cedk> sharoon: it is shared | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:27 <sharoon> cedk: thanks , i added | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:27 <cedk> sharoon: and it must be in google search | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:28 <cedk> good night | ||
| 2010-02-04 00:28 <sharoon> good night all | ||
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| 2010-02-04 15:20 <Timitos> cedk: hi. i saw the todo for account: Change code rules on taxes to use a one2many instead of fixed fields | ||
| 2010-02-04 15:20 <Timitos> cedk: what do you plan exactly? | ||
| 2010-02-04 15:22 <Timitos> i would provide a patch for that if you can give me some more information | ||
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| 2010-02-04 16:19 <cedk> Timitos: I don't know yet | ||
| 2010-02-04 16:20 <Timitos> cedk: so what is your goal) | ||
| 2010-02-04 16:21 <Timitos> s/)/? | ||
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| 2010-02-04 16:26 <cedk> Timitos: having taxes more powerful but I'm sick today and I can not think more | ||
| 2010-02-04 16:28 <Timitos> cedk: ok. So get well soon! | ||
| 2010-02-04 16:29 <Timitos> cedk: it would be great if we could discuss this point in the next days as i am working on german integration for accounting these days and this change would fit into my work i already have to do. | ||
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