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| 2009-11-27 10:40 <CIA-40> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1451:1658a949b325 tryton/ (CHANGELOG tryton/gui/window/view_form/screen/screen.py): Next and Previous scroll per page on list and don't loop | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:40 <CIA-40> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton/rev/1658a949b325 | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:40 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #931/Using Next and Previous on table rows in form views: [resolved] Fix with changeset 1658a949b325 | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:40 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue931 | ||
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| 2009-11-27 10:47 <gour> sharoon: hiya. you were the one told me about openerp, right? | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:57 <sharoon> gour: yes | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:57 <gour> sharoon: do you like tryton? | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:57 <sharoon> gour: nice question! both open erp and tryton are from similar core | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:58 <sharoon> gour: tryton just lacks a lot of modules & community development like open erp | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:58 <sharoon> gour: also I am not sure if tryton has a web client | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:58 <gour> sharoon: i'm thinking about the direction in which tryton is heading? | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:58 <gour> no, only thin desktop client | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:59 <sharoon> gour: i think what they really need to focus on is more functionality | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:59 <sharoon> gour: open erp has a lot of modules but lot of bugs and issues and design crap while tryton code is more refined | ||
| 2009-11-27 10:59 <gour> sharoon: i believe some more docs is required as well...i want to do something but have to finish some django stuff before | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:00 <sharoon> gour: ok, hows django getting along with you | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:01 <gour> sharoon: heh, had to deal with paper work for our startup ('company')...and will use django-cms which seems as good app for starting | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:01 <sharoon> [gour: the reason why I am here is, i was thinking if I could write some good stuff for tryton like poweremail] | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:02 <sharoon> gour: django is good and django-cms really cool | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:02 <gour> sharoon: what's poweremail? claws is my desktop mailer | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:03 <sharoon> gour: poweremail is a generic email architecture i built for openerp. It has a templating engine and can be configured to read write mails and share mails accross corporate workspace | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:03 <sharoon> gour: it also has a templating engine and you can design templates for any object | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:03 <sharoon> gour: so supports current + future modules | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:04 <sharoon> gour: automatic emailing as well | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:04 <sharoon> gour: http://launchpad.net/poweremail/trunk/0.6.1/+download/Users%20Manual.pdf | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:05 <gour> sharoon: could i send/receive email and shared it with claws (which access localhost dovecot imap)? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:06 <sharoon> gour: it has a builtin IMAP/POP3 receiver and smtp sender | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:06 <sharoon> works with services like gmail etc too | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:06 <sharoon> sharing is done on user groups | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:07 <sharoon> user groups can be given right to read a mail account and then all users in the group can see those mails | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:08 <gour> cool | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:09 <gour> it could be useful for 'business' mail here | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:09 <sharoon> can you explain? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:10 <gour> wel, instead of handling email from claws, i could do everything connected with 'business email' from tryton/poweremail | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:10 <gour> for now, i planned to share addressbook between tryton & claws with ldap | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:10 <sharoon> ok | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:11 <sharoon> gour: why did u decide to go with tryton? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:11 <sharoon> like specific reasons u found in research or somethin like that | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:12 <gour> sharoon: it seems to me it won't be so bloated as openerp and therefore more stable...also the community is smaller and it looks as one can more easily contribute | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:13 <sharoon> yeh we are in a desperate move toget community organised before 5.2 | ||
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| 2009-11-27 11:13 <gour> openerp is quite 'corporate' and we're not enterprise :-) | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:14 <gour> tryton looks as small & nicely organized, clear release policy, more open etc. | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:14 <sharoon> gour: do u know if tryton has any plans for a web client? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:14 <gour> sharoon: cedk is here as main force, but, afaik, no | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:14 <gour> i do not have need for it either | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:15 <sharoon> gour: but a web client is very critical in todays world | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:15 <gour> i plan to put tryton-client on moblin netbook...do you have experience with running openerp-client on moblin? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:15 <sharoon> nope | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:16 <gour> sharoon: why is web client needed? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:16 <sharoon> need of the day actually | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:16 <sharoon> i have done more implementations with web client that GTK/Desktop | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:16 <sharoon> clients really want it | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:17 <sharoon> + easy management | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:17 <sharoon> i really dont want to go accross the terminals in a company replacing clients for an update | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:17 <sharoon> cedk: do you have any plans for a web client? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:17 <gour> cedk is the right person to answer that...my needs are satisfied with thin client | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:18 <sharoon> looks like cedk is not here | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:19 <cedk> sharoon: there is some ideas on how it must be done | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:19 <sharoon> cedk: is there something like a blueprint? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:21 <sharoon> cedk: are there any plans on that? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:21 <cedk> sharoon: there was a proposition for gsoc2009 | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:21 <sharoon> cedk: ok, did you guys decide whats the platform ? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:21 <cedk> sharoon: it depends of possible customers | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:21 <sharoon> ok | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:24 <cedk> sharoon: we have looked to qooxdoo and GWT | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:34 <gour> cedk: what about pyjamas? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:35 <cedk> gour: too young | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:35 <cedk> gour: I'm not sure it will support a application with 20k SLOC | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:35 <gour> ok | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:37 <sharoon> cedk: why not cheerypy? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:38 <cedk> sharoon: because we think that a web client must work like the GTK but in a browser | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:38 <sharoon> cedk: what about performance issues? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:38 <cedk> sharoon: so it must be javascript application that just do the same request than the GTK client | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:39 <sharoon> cedk: is the bottleneck here network or the application framework? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:39 <cedk> sharoon: it will be faster than any webpage generator application | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:39 <sharoon> ok | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:40 <cedk> sharoon: bottleneck will be the network | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:40 <cedk> sharoon: and a javascript application will be less consuming for the server than a web page generator | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:40 <sharoon> cedk: never really worked on both the technologies you mentioned but will give them a look | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:42 <cedk> sharoon: did you ever try Gmail, Google Docs etc.? | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:43 <sharoon> i agree GWT is really good enuf | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:43 <sharoon> and possibly th option of deployment over app engine | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:44 <cedk> sharoon: not completly on app engine if they don't intergrate a SQL server | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:45 <sharoon> cedk: you can have the web application on app engine | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:45 <sharoon> cedk: not sure big tables is good enuf for any database application | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:45 <sharoon> cedk: i agree with you on that you server cannot be deployed on app engine | ||
| 2009-11-27 11:46 <sharoon> cedk: this looks like good news http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/1.6/DevGuideServerCommunication.html#DevGuideRemoteProcedureCalls | ||
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| 2009-11-27 18:46 <CIA-13> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1452:0126b41f2d6e tryton/tryton/gui/window/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Improve key navigation on tree view | ||
| 2009-11-27 18:46 <CIA-13> http://hg.tryton.org/tryton/rev/0126b41f2d6e | ||
| 2009-11-27 18:46 <CIA-13> ced roundup * #1249/Navigation with arrow keys in non-editable list view: [resolved] Fix with changeset 0126b41f2d6e | ||
| 2009-11-27 18:46 <CIA-13> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1249 | ||
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