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| 2009-11-21 12:43 <CIA-40> C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 368:1e3b34e63c3e website/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Add Tryton Labs | ||
| 2009-11-21 12:43 <CIA-40> http://hg.tryton.org/www.tryton.org/rev/1e3b34e63c3e | ||
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| 2009-11-21 13:02 <cedk> ikks: could you send me the po files? I will do some test | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:03 <ikks> Hi cedk, they are here -> http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/tryton-doc-es | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:04 <cedk> ikks: ok, it is only trytond | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:05 <ikks> yep, it's not the website, it's just the docs | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:06 <cedk> ikks: there is also docs in modules | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:07 <cedk> ikks: I don't know yet if it is good to have the rst files in the repository | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:09 <ikks> for now the user base is capable to translate the rst and have it synced | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:10 <ikks> I don't see an easy tool to let someone translate docs, strings yes, bud docs no :( | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:12 <cedk> ikks: don't understand | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:13 <ikks> mhh, if we do not have rst files, everything would be in .po? | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:13 <ikks> or which other approach would it be? | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:14 <cedk> ikks: having po and rst files is a duplication of data | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:14 <cedk> ikks: rst file must never been edited, only generated from po file | ||
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| 2009-11-21 13:17 <ikks> the original file "english version" is easier to maintain in english, and have a tool to generate the .po so the translators only work with the .po | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:17 <cedk> ikks: yes it is the current workflow | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:21 <ikks> I guess the process have no problem, the missing translations is due more to the translators that do not have initiated the process | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:22 <ikks> I guess if one language starts to translate all the docs | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:22 <ikks> all the other languages will become translated | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:22 <ikks> So I'll talk to juanfer to start the work on translating the module docs | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:23 <ikks> This way for 1.6 we would have the module docs translated too | ||
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| 2009-11-21 13:24 <yangoon> ikks: there are errors in english docs of modules | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:24 <yangoon> ikks: you will have to retranslate all docs as soon as they should be fixed | ||
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| 2009-11-21 13:25 <ikks> mhh, so first we should start fixing those docs | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:25 <yangoon> ikks: which wouldn't be a problem, if we had the correct interface | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:26 <ikks> for now fixing the rst is easy | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:26 <ikks> I mean the original english rst | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:26 <yangoon> ikks: we don't have a comfortable tool. that is what I am speaking of in my mails to google groups. | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:27 <yangoon> ikks: yes, that's always easy | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:27 <ikks> yangoon what would be the most comfortable tool to work with? | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:28 <yangoon> ikks: it doesn't exist so far;) or I didn't detect it at least... | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:28 <ikks> jejeje, I'm afraid all the present tools have a lot of quirks | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:28 <yangoon> we need some markup of the changes, that have occured since last translation | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <ikks> Debian manual installation translation shows something like | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <ikks> http://ettin.org/pub/debian/dimstats/index.es.html | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <yangoon> ikks: are you familiar with translation process in debian | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <yangoon> ? | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <ikks> yep | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <ikks> It does not have a comfortable tool either | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:30 <ikks> on the translated language we have in comment the author the last date and the version translated | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:31 <ikks> one only translate docbook like files | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:32 <ikks> and on this rst are a lot better, xml is not for human rst really IS | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:34 <ikks> I find hard even to have the correct description of a software to maintain book translation with easy interfaces | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:35 <ikks> :( | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:41 <yangoon> ikks: kbabel is very good for this, since it provides the possibilty to compare old and new po | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:42 <yangoon> but it depends of course on KDE, so cannot be a general tool | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:43 <yangoon> I am just searching for another possibility... | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:45 <yangoon> it could be possible to put the wdiff of old.po to new.po into the comments of temp.po | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:46 <yangoon> after translation of temp.po comments could be stripped from the file and temp.po copied to new.po | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:47 <yangoon> so at least with poedit we could have a look at the comments to see what really changed in the string | ||
| 2009-11-21 13:48 <yangoon> will have to check this later... | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:02 <CIA-40> Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@mbsolutions.selfip.biz> default * 369:5bdc47bd514e website/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/tryton.po: Update translation for de | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:02 <CIA-40> http://hg.tryton.org/www.tryton.org/rev/5bdc47bd514e | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:09 <cedk> I think diff for change in po file can be done with hg | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:10 <cedk> and hg can be configured to use any kind of diff tool | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:10 <cedk> so the guy who wants to have wdiff can use it | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:21 <cedk> ikks: do you think you need two separate translation for spanish and colombia? | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:22 <ikks> cedk, at the beginning probably not, but we have words really different for the same concept on Spain and Colombia :( | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:22 <ikks> If we mention here "aldebaran" no one would understand :( | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:23 <ikks> so rethinking, better es-es and es-co | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:24 <cedk> ikks: website has one es | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:24 <ikks> The website is ok because there are not so many technical things on accounting side(where we differ the most in terminology) | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:27 <cedk> ikks: we should decide if it must have one or many spanish documentations | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:28 <ikks> I would say www only one, but modules , tryton and trytond not, maybe Carlos could have a different idea on this. | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:29 <ikks> www (language) . modules, tryton , trytond doc (language-country) | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:29 <cedk> it is more logical to keep the same code than for the other translation of Tryton | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:31 <cedk> ikks: I made the configuration for trytond | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:32 <cedk> ikks: you can push translation under doc/es_CO/ | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:34 <ikks> pulling... | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:36 <cedk> ikks: I update the wiki page to explain which files to submit | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:36 <cedk> it is *.pot, es_CO/*.po and es_CO/*.rst | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:37 <cedk> but rst file must be only generated by the po | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:38 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): [new] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/trytond/protocols/netrpc.py", line 47, in run res = dispatch(host, port, 'NetRPC', *msg) F ... | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:38 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:41 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): [need-eg] We need the SQL query from the server log. | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:41 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
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| 2009-11-21 14:48 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:48 <CIA-40> This error occurs when loading a trigger table in postgresql | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:48 <CIA-40> "unterminated dollars-quoted string" | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:48 <CIA-40> This bug is old postgresql versions to 8.1, b ... | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:48 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:51 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:51 <CIA-40> [Sat Nov 21 19:41:21 2009] INFO:modules:account_ru:loading triggers/total.sql | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:51 <CIA-40> [Sat Nov 21 19:41:21 2009] ERROR:sql:Wrong SQL: CREATE OR REPLACE F ... | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:51 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:52 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): Please give the SQL query. | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:52 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:54 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): [invalid] account_ru is not part of Tryton. | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:54 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:59 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): Yes you are right, I develop this module for Russia because we have a different accounting standard | ||
| 2009-11-21 14:59 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 15:04 <ikks> cedk I'll review it, I pull and be pushing, I got to go, thanks :)รง | ||
| 2009-11-21 15:07 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): | ||
| 2009-11-21 15:07 <CIA-40> You should avoid using .sql file. | ||
| 2009-11-21 15:07 <CIA-40> The feature is not used anywhere in Tryton and could be removed in future release. | ||
| 2009-11-21 15:07 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:00 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1313/Message deleting record in tryton-client: | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:00 <CIA-40> [new] Make two types of messages when you delete records from the list view and a form. | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:00 <CIA-40> 1. "Are you sure to remove this record?" - When you are i ... | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:00 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1313 | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:31 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1313/Message deleting record in tryton-client: | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:31 <CIA-40> [invalid] It doesn't make sense to delete a form. | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:31 <CIA-40> You always delete records. | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:31 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1313 | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:52 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1313/Message deleting record in tryton-client: When you are in the simplest form of consent, and when you're in the form of subordinated notes, the user can accidentally delete the form instead ... | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:52 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1313 | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:54 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1313/Message deleting record in tryton-client: Changing the terms will not fix anythings as you can have a form in a one2many | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:54 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1313 | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:55 <CIA-40> SilverFox1971 roundup * #1313/Message deleting record in tryton-client: The icons in the subordinate list are very small, just by doing testing your system Tryton, several times wrong and removes all form | ||
| 2009-11-21 16:55 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1313 | ||
| 2009-11-21 17:55 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1313/Message deleting record in tryton-client: | ||
| 2009-11-21 17:55 <CIA-40> Here is a proposition for a patch to add Delete shortcut on one2many: | ||
| 2009-11-21 17:55 <CIA-40> http://codereview.appspot.com/157125 | ||
| 2009-11-21 17:55 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1313 | ||
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| 2009-11-21 21:09 <CIA-40> ced roundup * #1312/res = self.cursor.execute(sql): | ||
| 2009-11-21 21:09 <CIA-40> By the way, could you explain what is specific to Russian accounting on the mailing list? | ||
| 2009-11-21 21:09 <CIA-40> We could perhaps improve Tryton with your remarks. | ||
| 2009-11-21 21:09 <CIA-40> http://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1312 | ||
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