| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Mar 21 00:00:01 CET 2009 | ||
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| 2009-03-21 08:08 <cristi_an> udono: you are here ? | ||
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| 2009-03-21 08:36 <cristi_an> carlos: hi there | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:36 <cristi_an> do you have a min or 2 ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:36 <carlos> cristi_an: hi | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:36 <carlos> cristi_an: sure | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:36 <cristi_an> thx:) | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:36 <cristi_an> how can io confirm a package... | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:36 <cristi_an> i just can;t do that in demo version | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:37 <cristi_an> you can try yourself since it is on demo server | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:37 <cristi_an> but i just can' confirm packge...from a purchase i did | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:38 <carlos> I didn't 'play' yet with purchases | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:38 <carlos> so that's also new for me | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:40 <cristi_an> np | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:40 <cristi_an> but in tersm of cost price ...do you know if fixed price is specified... | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:41 <cristi_an> if then does not matter purchase price i do for that product ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:44 <carlos> Being sincer, I'm a bit lost with your thread, so I don't think I could help you right now with that, maybe in the future... sorry | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:46 <cristi_an> np... | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:46 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:46 <cristi_an> i just tried my luck .... | ||
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| 2009-03-21 08:52 <carlos> I'm sure someone will answer today ;-) | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:54 <cristi_an> i know...people are friendly here | ||
| 2009-03-21 08:54 <cristi_an> that is one reason i choosed tryton :) | ||
| 2009-03-21 09:08 <carlos> cristi_an: btw, was the openerp book helpful? | ||
| 2009-03-21 09:22 <cristi_an> yes and no :) | ||
| 2009-03-21 09:22 <cristi_an> beetwen | ||
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| 2009-03-21 10:15 <udono> cristi_an: Hi, when you want to confirm a package, there needed to be some products in stock. | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:16 <cristi_an> what i did is to create a purchase | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:16 <cristi_an> i bought some products | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:17 <cristi_an> i confirmed the purchase ,payed the generated invoice | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:17 <cristi_an> but...i just can't find hpw to confirm package | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:20 <udono> cristi_an: ah, ok, you don't find the menu entry. | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:20 <udono> cristi_an: Think about what it is confirming a package... it is done in Stock | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:22 <udono> cristi_an: just take a look at Inventory Management, Customer Packings, Customer Packings waiting Assignation | ||
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| 2009-03-21 10:26 <cristi_an> but this is a packege from a supplier | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:26 <cristi_an> since is a purchase | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:29 <cristi_an> i found move from suppliers waiting approval | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:30 <cristi_an> but there is not action for confirm | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:30 <cristi_an> they are still in draft | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:30 <cristi_an> not updateble | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:33 <udono> cristi_an: hmm | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:33 <cristi_an> it is on demo server | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:33 <cristi_an> so it can be seen by anyone... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:38 <udono> cristi_an: which supplier? | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:39 <udono> cristi_an: ok, its B | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:40 <cristi_an> B | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:40 <cristi_an> supplier B | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:41 <udono> cristi_an: For supplier you need to create a new supplier packing. That sounds strange, but is convenient for all cases. Because it could be that you order something from a suplier and he delivers less or other parts. So you need to change the packing... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:41 <udono> cristi_an: just try, there is a new widget a many2many whit functions of a one to many... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:42 <cristi_an> where ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:42 <udono> inventory > Supplier Packings > New Supplier Packing | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:43 <cristi_an> and i have to create a packing with all product that i receive ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:43 <cristi_an> manually ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:44 <udono> cristi_an: on incoming moves you can select the moves you created in Purchase, or just add some more moves, when the supplier sends you more or less or other products... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:44 <udono> cristi_an: of course manually. This process need to be manually | ||
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| 2009-03-21 10:45 <udono> cristi_an: in fact you open the pack from the supplier and check if everything is all right. That's manually.. | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:45 <cristi_an> udono: incoming moves are empty | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:45 <cristi_an> i have to slect supplier | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:45 <cristi_an> ok | ||
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| 2009-03-21 10:46 <udono> cristi_an: you need to say frm which Supplier you got the package... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:46 <cristi_an> i got it | ||
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| 2009-03-21 10:47 <cristi_an> hmmm....but this path is excuse me not the right path to do...since: | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:47 <cristi_an> in most cases thre is no mistakes dome | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:47 <cristi_an> like 5 % of purchses may be mistaken | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:48 <cristi_an> less or more... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:48 <cristi_an> and thre has to be made something to treat those exceptions ,not a general case ...for all | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:48 <udono> cristi_an: in most cases... but this model is flexible enough to take care of the other cases. One usual case is: you order 100 but get just 90 in one package. Ten days later you get the last 10 in a separate package. | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:49 <cristi_an> yes but in most cases i receive 100 | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:49 <cristi_an> so the right | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:49 <udono> cristi_an: the problem with a hard link between purchase requests and packings is that you don't know how the things are delivered. | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:50 <cristi_an> i have to get used to this logic... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:50 <cristi_an> here no program does such things... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:50 <udono> cristi_an: yes, but this way you can exactly see what is missing. | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:51 <cristi_an> ok but the invoice is done...based on the 100 | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:51 <cristi_an> or or 90 units | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:51 <cristi_an> in case you descirbed... | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:51 <cristi_an> let's say they do not send you back 10 more products | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:51 <udono> cristi_an: yust test and report bugs | ||
| 2009-03-21 10:52 <cristi_an> ok | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:01 <cristi_an> udono: one more thing :) | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:02 <cristi_an> here the custom is that people make order by phone...i want 100 units of x and then next day the car arrive with the invoce from supplier...with the merchendise... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:02 <cristi_an> peopel in one move ...create an invoice... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:02 <cristi_an> and they ahve producs on stock | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> ONE STEP | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> in tryton you create the purhcase order, | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> confirm | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> then confirm invoice | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> create packing | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> confirm | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:03 <cristi_an> etc | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:04 <cristi_an> there are tooooo many stept to put a product on stock ! way to general for a vert simple operation .... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:10 <udono> cristi_an: The one step thing works in a very small and condensed environment of business. The modules in Tryton are considered generic and usable in all environments we know about. But it is no problem to make the things more easy for the user. But the mechanism we have can solve a lot of problems of other software. Next version we will get a sale_simple and a purchase_simple module which went into the direction of SOHO companies. | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:11 <cristi_an> cool ! | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:12 <cristi_an> soho menaing ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:12 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:13 <udono> cristi_an: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Office/Home_Office | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:13 <cristi_an> not really small ...it is too general to make a program based only on wiki defintions... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:14 <cristi_an> we have to take into consideration real aspects from market | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:15 <cristi_an> i am in this bussines in for last 5 years..for mid ,small companies... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:15 <cristi_an> told you > 5000 invoices/ month | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:15 <cristi_an> and the can; tbe considered small ofiice or home office .. | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:15 <cristi_an> however... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:16 <udono> cristi_an: don't understand | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:17 <cristi_an> sale_simple and a purchase_simple are not for hoem and small ofiices :) | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:17 <cristi_an> huge companies use that...as well | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:17 <cristi_an> dependign on how they work | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:17 <cristi_an> it might be a small office that use current way | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:17 <cristi_an> or a big comanythat need small_sale... | ||
| 2009-03-21 11:23 <udono> cristi_an: yes, right | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:00 <yangoon> cristi_an: udono: just reading messages of this morning | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:02 <yangoon> udono: Until now I am also accustomed to handle supplier packages package based, not move line based | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:03 <yangoon> and I understand the input of cristi_an to do it package based | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:03 <yangoon> what doesn't mean, that you cannot change an incoming package for additional/lacking items | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:04 <yangoon> so it would just be a matter of creating another new package with the lacking items, if there should be those | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:05 <yangoon> this would indeed save the time to have to create the package | ||
| 2009-03-21 12:37 <udono> yangoon: for me a on_change on supplier name could update the moves in the packings from this supplier. | ||
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| 2009-03-21 13:47 <cristi_an> yangoon: something like you say indeed | ||
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| 2009-03-21 15:57 <cristi_an> udono: what this means "for me a on_change on supplier name could update the moves in the packings from this supplier" | ||
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| 2009-03-21 22:54 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #884/psycopg2.IntegrityError: NULL-Wert in Spalte »id« verletzt Not-Null-Constraint: [need-eg] From a version 1.0? | ||
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| 2009-03-21 23:07 <cristi_an> cedk: u entered in the weekend night shift ? | ||
| 2009-03-21 23:11 <CIA-10> tryton: vengfulsquirrel roundup * #886/add id column but records exist causing integrity error: [new] [Sat Mar 21 13:42:25 2009] DEBUG:trytond.backend.postgresql.table:try to add id column [Sat Mar 21 13:42:25 2009] ERROR:sql:Wrong SQL: ALTER ... | ||
| 2009-03-21 23:24 <CIA-10> tryton: carlos roundup * #887/Attachment uploads should not block the client: [new] When you attach a file to any resource in Tryton from the Tryton client it gets locked until the upload finish. If the file is big, the clie ... |
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