| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Mon Mar 16 00:00:01 CET 2009 | ||
| 2009-03-16 00:10 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #453/account_invoice wizard allows empty fields -> causes Issue 451: [resolved] I find this kind of warning not useful because users never read it. | ||
| 2009-03-16 00:13 <CIA-10> tryton: ced roundup * #717/Defaults for salable and puchasable on products created from invoices: [resolved] It is not a good idea because a product created on invoice is not necessary salable or purchasable. | ||
| 2009-03-16 00:18 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 257:a3f03f5e9d44 purchase/purchase.xml: Fix typo | ||
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| 2009-03-16 08:29 <CIA-10> tryton: Timitos roundup * #870/AttributeError: 'Screen' object has no attribute 'views': [new] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/tryton/gui/window/view_form/view/form_gtk/one2many.py", line 553, in _sig_new self.screen.mo ... | ||
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| 2009-03-16 09:35 <CIA-10> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1218:0ecb7b2a4194 tryton/tryton/gui/window/view_form/ (model/group.py screen/screen.py): Use a set to store on_write function names | ||
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| 2009-03-16 09:51 <cristi_an> cedk: assuming i have like 10 clients and each of them need an update | ||
| 2009-03-16 09:51 <cristi_an> to a certain module | ||
| 2009-03-16 09:51 <cristi_an> how can they do this update ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 09:51 <cristi_an> without involving me ... | ||
| 2009-03-16 09:52 <cedk> cristi_an: what do you call "update to a certain module" ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 09:52 <cristi_an> something like accounting module is changed ...in logic...because it has to calculate some taxes diferently | ||
| 2009-03-16 09:53 <cedk> cristi_an: you must update the source code and run --update on the server | ||
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| 2009-03-16 09:55 <cristi_an> it is like a have a new updated accounting module that has to end up on each of my customers | ||
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| 2009-03-16 09:55 <cristi_an> then to run --update ? | ||
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| 2009-03-16 09:59 <cedk> cristi_an: I don't know what is your architecture | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:01 <cristi_an> cedk: nothing special...in the future i want to install tryton to some customers ,assume 10 | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:01 <cristi_an> among modules installed on server side there will be acounting module , which in romania is exposed to a lot of updates | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:01 <cristi_an> due to laws that are changing each time | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:02 <cristi_an> so...i would like to find out a way that if i publich that updated module on my website | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:02 <cedk> cristi_an: I don't think they change it every week | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:02 <cristi_an> not every week | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:02 <cristi_an> but ...often belive me... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:02 <cedk> cristi_an: what is often ? once per month, per year... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:03 <cristi_an> 1/ month | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:03 <cristi_an> for sure | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:04 <cristi_an> even if they chaneg the title of a report or so....officialy they rename it | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:04 <cristi_an> or add a new report needed for reporting | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:04 <cristi_an> stuff like this | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:05 <cedk> cristi_an: one per month !!! | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:06 <cristi_an> check it out on versions | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:06 <cristi_an> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=ro&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsagasoft.ro%2F&sl=ro&tl=fr | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:07 <cristi_an> and look on dates | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:07 <Timitos> and /me thought that tax law of germany could not be beated by his complexity | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:07 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:08 <cristi_an> this changes are mainliy on salaries...i know you do not have a plan to do a module like that but here an erp must have taht | ||
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| 2009-03-16 10:13 <cedk> cristi_an: I don't know because I don't understand what is those changes | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:13 <Timitos> cristi_an: i need some more customers for this. if there is enough demand we can do this. but only if there is enough demand. | ||
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| 2009-03-16 10:14 <cristi_an> cedk: the ideaa was to show that updated are even more tehn 1 / month :) | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:14 <cristi_an> various things...:( | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:14 <cristi_an> i know it sucks... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:14 <cristi_an> but i am not telling you bull shits | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:14 <cristi_an> so the client has to be able to grab his module...and install it | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:15 <cristi_an> since i will not be able to go on each (i hope that i will have more them 10) to do the upgrade | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:15 <cristi_an> or to connect on each server and do it | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:16 <cedk> cristi_an: write a script that will do that for you | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:21 <cristi_an> k...so it is possible | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:21 <cristi_an> that script to be executed by client | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:21 <cristi_an> i was thinking to a action that can check a central repositiory from the client | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:22 <cristi_an> and to update / replace the modules on demand...when a user | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:22 <cristi_an> clcik on that | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:22 <cristi_an> depending on current version ... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:23 <cedk> cristi_an: no, the client is not necessary on the same host than the server | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:23 <cristi_an> i know but it cant push those changes or new modules to server ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:27 <cedk> cristi_an: this is not a secure design | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:28 <cristi_an> i ma sure you will face things like this... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:28 <cristi_an> so the customer has to be able to do the upgrade himsefl | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:28 <cristi_an> if the module is put on some site | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:29 <cristi_an> command line for a client is ....sking to much from him | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:29 <cedk> cristi_an: I don't expect update an ERP often | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:29 <gadaga> cristi_an: why you don't create a mercurial represitory and on server side put a script that check the mercurial, update the module and restart the server? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:30 <cristi_an> gadaga: that is something nice ! | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:32 <cristi_an> gadaga: that is quite good | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:32 <cristi_an> and it is done automatically ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:32 <cristi_an> everything... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:33 <cristi_an> so the client does not even need to know...it may be transparent to him | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:34 <cristi_an> cedk: what do you thingk to gadagas solution | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:34 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:34 <gadaga> cristi_an: yes but you have a risk for restarting the server automatically | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:35 <gadaga> cristi_an: if you module have an error and you push it on the server and restart it, the server can not restart.... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:36 <cristi_an> yepppp.....:( | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:36 <cristi_an> but then i have to go to see ... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:36 <cedk> cristi_an: upgrade is always a dangerous process | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:36 <cedk> cristi_an: you can not do it with warning the users | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:37 <gadaga> cedk: i agree | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:37 <cedk> /with/without/ | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:38 <cedk> cristi_an: did you ever seen SAP upgrade automaticly ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:39 <cristi_an> SAP nop | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:40 <cristi_an> ok..then ...but an action started from client on demand... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:40 <gadaga> cedk: 2k3 server do that :D lol | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:40 <cristi_an> that call a server procedure | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:41 <cedk> cristi_an: we will not do it in the standard version because I think it is too dangerous | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:41 <cristi_an> now the architecture....look for modules upgrades on server side | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:41 <cristi_an> is possible to check that also un a central repository ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:41 <cristi_an> on other server | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:42 <cedk> for me the best is to have a script (it can be an exe) that make all the upgrade stuffs | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:42 <cedk> in fact on Linux system, it must be the package manager job | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:43 <cedk> on windows as there is no package manager, you must write your own | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:43 <cristi_an> package manager ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:43 <cristi_an> like apt-get | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:45 <cedk> cristi_an: yes | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:46 <cristi_an> cedk: but using that you get latest server package...but you still nedd to run a script to update the database ... | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:47 <cristi_an> or it is done automatically when server starts ? | ||
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| 2009-03-16 10:48 <cedk> cristi_an: the package manager could do it for you | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:48 <cristi_an> wow | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:48 <cristi_an> ! | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:49 <cristi_an> ok thx for all this precious info | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:56 <cedk> cristi_an: but as I say the simplier is to write a little python script (and convert it into exe for windows) | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:57 <cristi_an> and that exe...will know how to download th module acees the linuz server copy new files there restart the server etc | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:57 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 10:59 <cedk> cristi_an: if you write it of course | ||
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| 2009-03-16 10:59 <cristi_an> :) | ||
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| 2009-03-16 11:00 <cristi_an> is not rocket science | ||
| 2009-03-16 11:00 <cristi_an> however there is a long way unitl i wil need that | ||
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| 2009-03-16 17:01 <cristi_an> guyus do you know gnucash app ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:01 <cristi_an> do you know by change what database it uses | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:01 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:02 <cristi_an> by chance | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:14 <ikks> cristi_an afaik, no db | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:16 <cristi_an> yep | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:16 <cristi_an> i just discovered | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:16 <cristi_an> flat file | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:17 <enlightx> cristi_an: if you need to deal with gnucash, there's a openobject addon for that purpose you can customize (btw, never tried) | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:20 <cristi_an> i see thx...just wondered about the backend it has | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:24 <enlightx> if i remember correctly, it uses sqlite by default | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:27 <cristi_an> noooo | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:27 <cristi_an> just files... | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:28 <cristi_an> simple files.. | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:28 <enlightx> ah ok | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:28 <cristi_an> wondered since it's size is | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:28 <cristi_an> like | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:28 <cristi_an> 65 MB | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:40 <cristi_an> it has nice ui like tryton | ||
| 2009-03-16 17:40 <cristi_an> guess uses GTk or somethign similar | ||
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| 2009-03-16 22:19 <vengfulsquirrel> Have any changes been made to the left/right stuff in the week or two that would make updating it have a larger penalty than before? | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:26 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: not in the two last weeks | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:26 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: could you give more explaination on what is slowing down | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:27 <vengfulsquirrel> Well maybe its been longer than that. Is there a way to temporarily circumvent updating the tree while migrating? Right now I'm just calling location_obj.create over and over. | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:33 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: no there is nothing implemented | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:35 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but this functionnality is used for trees that will not change often | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:38 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: how big is your tree? | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:38 <vengfulsquirrel> Like 1000ish I think. | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:40 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: and how long did it take? | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:43 <vengfulsquirrel> Well that was taking an hour before but I'm doing the whole migration now in one script so its hard to tell what's the slowdown now. | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:44 <vengfulsquirrel> There are a lot of things going on so I could easily be doing something terribly wrong, ha never count that out. | ||
| 2009-03-16 22:50 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: you can disable to feature by patching the source and after call _rebuild_tree | ||
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