| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sat Jan 31 00:00:01 CET 2009 | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:13 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it must work | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:15 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but becarefull that normally the value for a many2one must be (id, name) | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:15 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: where name comes from the call name_get | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:15 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: oups, I see the issue: | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:15 <cedk> res[line.id] = line.inventory.location | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:15 <cedk> must be at least: | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:15 <cedk> res[line.id] = line.inventory.location.id | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:16 <cedk> and better: | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:16 <cedk> res[line.id] = (line.inventory.location.id, location_name) | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:17 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Oh man yeah that might explain a lot, so either id or (id, name) | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:17 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Thanks I'll try that out | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:18 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: If I pass a value for a function field inside values to some_pool_obj.create/write(...) will it know to call the set_ function ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:18 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: look at the function get_uom line 264 of inventory.py | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:18 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: don't understand | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:19 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: for the code, perhaps a starting point will be to copy/paste diff here and we look together | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:19 <vengfulsquirrel> For example I've created a function field location, if I go something like write(..., {'location': 45}, ...) will it know to pass location to set_location ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:19 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but not today, I will go to sleep soon | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:20 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah you work pretty late and pretty early, maybe this weekend I'll post of some paste links in there of the stock stuff. | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:20 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: yes, if you define the set_location | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:20 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Okay thanks a lot | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:21 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: ok, or you can use the mailling list if nobody is there | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:22 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: by the way, perhaps it is better to not update the repositories because I'm doing the big changes of the kernel structure | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:24 <vengfulsquirrel> You mean stock ? I can just keep patching it after pulling forever if necessary unless you are actually changing stock itself extensively. | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:24 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: not the stock module, but the trytond stuffs | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:25 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: http://groups.google.com/group/tryton/browse_frm/thread/49af894ff4bb624f | ||
| 2009-01-31 00:26 <cedk> bye | ||
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| 2009-01-31 15:32 <CIA-10> tryton: matb roundup * #761/Stock: Partially assigned packing does not appear under Assigned Packings: [resolved] Yes, you are right. But my error reveals, that it is currently impossible to delete a record on a o2m with the keyboard. (appended to ... | ||
| 2009-01-31 15:32 <CIA-10> tryton: matb roundup * #461/Menu access keys and/or keyboard shortcuts for all client functions: +++ One2Many +++ Missing key for deletion of records in o2m fields | ||
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| 2009-01-31 17:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Timitos roundup * #765/TypeError: Argument must be string or unicode.: [new] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/trytond/netsvc.py", line 282, in run res = method(*msg[2:]) File "/trytond/web_service/obj ... | ||
| 2009-01-31 17:11 <CIA-10> tryton: Timitos roundup * #766/Exception: ('Argument must be string or unicode.', 'Traceback (most recent call last):\n File "/trytond/netsvc.py", line 282, i...: [new] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/tryton/gui/main.py", line 1337, in _sig_child_call res = wid.handlers[button_name]() File ... | ||
| 2009-01-31 17:13 <CIA-10> tryton: Timitos roundup * #766/Exception: ('Argument must be string or unicode.', 'Traceback (most recent call last):\n File "/trytond/netsvc.py", line 282, i...: [chatting] this happened in an complete new db when i tried to open customer invoices view. this issue is linked to issue 765 | ||
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| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> same as question as on open erp | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> there is the following real scenario : the accountatn go to the bank and gets the firm bank account extras | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> then arrive at firm and start entering payed invoices | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> is there a way to do this faster the go on each invoice ,pay etc. | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> because a supplier may pay like 40 invoices once | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> and to put that sum and reconcile (pay) automatically those in the amount of that sum | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> thx | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:34 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:41 <udono> cristi_an: hi, do you know the account_statement module? | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:46 <cristi_an> udono: unfotunatelly no | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:47 <cristi_an> i know a mix between open erp docs and tryton | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:47 <cristi_an> :( | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:47 <cristi_an> if tryton had open erp docs...it would be fantastic | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:47 <cristi_an> however is that a module that resolve my problem ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:49 <udono> cristi_an: no module of tryton will solve problems out-of-the box. The modules are all very general and needed to be custoised that they fit to the needs. Same like open ERP... | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:50 <cristi_an> i understand but this is quite general...to pay faster invoices...not one by one...since that works for little firms that have like 5 invoices /day | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:50 <cristi_an> module even general is better to be desinged for hig volumes of data | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:50 <carlos> cristi_an: as far as I know that module in OpenERP is used by the Spanish team to import an standard file in the Spanish banks with all bank movements | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:51 <cristi_an> the best way to do a good product is to put youself in the place of the user :) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:51 <cristi_an> and if you have like > 100 invoices to pay each day | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:51 <cristi_an> + other things to do | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:51 <cristi_an> this is quite common i say.... | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:52 <carlos> cristi_an: well, if tryton has the account_statement module, I'm sure is just a matter of write support for your bank's statement format, something that is impossible to do for all countries/banks from day 0... | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:52 <udono> cristi_an: The account_statement module is for coding Bank-account statements into the system, with begin and End balance of the Banksheet. So I think it doesn't help this much for mass payments. | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:53 <carlos> ACTION is confused | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:53 <carlos> cristi_an: aren't you talking about reconcile bank movements? | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:53 <cristi_an> carlos that is why i reapeat Trtton needs DOCS !!! :) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:54 <carlos> cristi_an: indeed, I'm "fighting" against taxes definition ;-) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:54 <cristi_an> carlos: i talked about paying invoices ... (reoncile with invoices ? ) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:54 <carlos> cristi_an: and I'm preparing documentation for all that knowledge I'm getting so it's easier for new people | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:55 <cristi_an> pfff that is ...a very good news... | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:55 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:55 <cristi_an> if all would do like you ...!!! | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:55 <carlos> cristi_an: paying invoices == 'set the invoices as paid in Tryton'? | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:56 <carlos> cristi_an: well, I hope others do the same for other parts of the system | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:56 <carlos> I'm not good on writing documentation | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:56 <cristi_an> carlos: you had prev ezxp with open erp as well ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:56 <cristi_an> all of you guys from here had prev expericnes with open erp ..... | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <carlos> cristi_an: I'm using OpenERP for my company while I finish preparing Tryton | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <cristi_an> that is why i foid so siffcult to understand things...you are very much familiar with... | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <cristi_an> ahaaaaa | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <cristi_an> so you not quite a newbie at all!!! | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <cristi_an> i am the only one around here :)) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:57 <carlos> well, I'm newbie from the development point of view | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:58 <cristi_an> but not as a user | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:58 <cristi_an> you master open erp :) | ||
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| 2009-01-31 18:58 <carlos> I just got the chart of accounts done for OpenERP, but seems like it's not 100% correct, and thus, I need to move to Tryton as soon as possible with my fixed chart of accounts to close 2008 ;-) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:59 <carlos> ACTION doesn't want to learn two different chart of accounts systems (OpenERP and Tryton) | ||
| 2009-01-31 18:59 <cristi_an> they are so different ? | ||
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| 2009-01-31 19:01 <carlos> The definition XML is a bit different, and the way the OpenERP Spanish people do their chart of accounts is completely different from the way I was teach to create the Tryton one | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:01 <cristi_an> :( | ||
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| 2009-01-31 19:08 <carlos> Anyone that could help me with Tryton's taxes handling? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:09 <carlos> I think I'm getting more or less the idea behind it, but what I don't understand is the utility of credit_note_* (credit_note_base_code, credit_note_tax_code, credit_note_account, etc...) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:10 <cristi_an> cedk: plz do us a big favour....and not only for us | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:10 <cristi_an> cedk: write the docs for modules | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:11 <cristi_an> cedk: i will buy it :) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:11 <cristi_an> cedk: 100 % even in advance | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:11 <cedk> carlos: I have not time today, please send an email on the google groups, I will answer | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:11 <carlos> cedk: ok, thanks | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:12 <cristi_an> cedk: no time for that soon ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:13 <cedk> cristi_an: I don't know | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:14 <cristi_an> cedk: it is also a marketing step. @see open erp with new docs (don;t get me wrong if i gave them as samples in this case) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:15 <cristi_an> cedk: one oof the reasons you split is that you wanted simpler ,stalbe and beter documented modules | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:15 <cristi_an> from wht i know... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:15 <cedk> cristi_an: when we make something we want to make it good | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:15 <cristi_an> among other things.. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:15 <udono> carlos: base_code tax_code is for generating tax reports. See the german account_de_SKR03 module on intuxication. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:16 <cristi_an> cedk: nothing is perfect from the begginign , | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:16 <cristi_an> improvements may be done in time | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:16 <cristi_an> however it up to you ...the ball is in your court | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:17 <cristi_an> you will never have a perfect solutions for everything... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:17 <cedk> cristi_an: no, but we don't want rewrite things every year :-) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:17 <cristi_an> i see your point... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:17 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:18 <cristi_an> cedk: but nodule and code changes in time...so i am affraid you will have... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:18 <carlos> udono: I'm using the account_de_SKR03 as the base for my Spanish taxes, but I need to understand it a bit more | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:18 <cristi_an> since laws are changing,since there are always better ways to do things,new techologies appear... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:18 <cedk> cristi_an: I hope we will do only improvement and bug fix | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:19 <cedk> bbl | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:19 <cristi_an> cedk: so no docs in plan ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:19 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:19 <carlos> udono: my main question is more about credit_note_* I think I know the ones for invoice_* | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:21 <carlos> udono: what I don't understand is the difference between credit_note_* and invoice_* and when is used it instead of invoice_* | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:23 <udono> credit_note_base_code is the place in your taxreport where the reverse booking of the invoice (creditnote) is collected. It can be the same than invoice, but must not. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:24 <udono> it is just for more flexibility in taxreports. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:24 <cristi_an> cedk: bbl ??? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:24 <carlos> cristi_an: be back later (I think) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:26 <carlos> udono: hmm, I'm trying to understand your answer, just give me some time... :-P | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:26 <cristi_an> aha | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:27 <udono> carlos: I don't think that the tryton accounting part differs from standard spain accounting principles, because all accounting principles are the same world-wide. It is just a bit more complex on the edges. But therefore it fits to german, belgium, frensch,...and hopefully spain. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:28 <udono> carlos: of course: tryton is not complete in accounting. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:28 <carlos> udono: yeah, what you told me makes sense, I'm just trying to map it with the way we handle it in Spain, but I don't have that in my mind, so I'm just checking an invoice movement | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:30 <udono> carlos: I used the official german taxreport (a verry complicated paper with 40 fields) and realized this in tryton over the taxcodes. | ||
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| 2009-01-31 19:38 <carlos> udono: the problem I'm having is that I'm still not able to see the difference between invoice_* and credit_note_*... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:38 <carlos> udono: is there any example in the German chart of accounts which use different values ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:39 <carlos> from what I see the only difference is the sign, but they use the same codes | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:44 <udono> carlos: on the sign are some Bugs | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:44 <udono> carlos: Not directly bugs, but inconsequences | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:45 <udono> germany has no need for different credit_note_* | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:46 <carlos> so maybe that's why I don't see its utility in Spain either... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:46 <carlos> :-) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:47 <udono> carlos: srry, I used it in 'Steuerfreier i.g. Erw. m. USt-Id Nr.' it is a VAT free EU buy with UST-ID nr. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:49 <udono> carlos: but its very tricky and I have my experts Timitos and Yabgoon for the details... | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:49 <udono> Yangoon | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:50 <yangoon> hi udono | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:50 <udono> carlos: but sorry, I have to leave. See you Tomorrow. | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:50 <udono> Hi yangoon | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:51 <udono> yangoon: sorry didn't call you, just corrected my typo :-) Yabgoon = yangoon. See you | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:52 <carlos> udono: so you used it to note that such sell was tax free (due to the EU vat number), but in your report you should note it as if it had 19% of VAT ? | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:52 <yangoon> udono: yes, I saw, cu:) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:52 <carlos> udono: ok, cheer | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:52 <carlos> cheers | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:52 <carlos> I will send an email to the mailing list anyway | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:52 <carlos> udono: however I think I'm understanding it a bit better now :-D | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:53 <carlos> udono: thanks for your help | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:56 <carlos> ACTION -> out | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:56 <carlos> see you later!! | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:58 <cristi_an> udono: sorry to say this but thigs have to be simple , if they tend to be too complicated is something wrong. (Keep everything clear, obvious and as self-documenting as possible) | ||
| 2009-01-31 19:58 <cristi_an> i fimplementing a chart of account si difficult what about the rest... | ||
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