| chat.freenode.net #tryton log beginning Sun Jan 11 00:00:02 CET 2009 | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:06 <vengfulsquirrel> Is there any way to handle expired or damaged goods when taking inventories? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:08 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: what do you mean? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:10 <vengfulsquirrel> Well for example a case where you expect 10 but 9 are fine and 1 is damaged. If I just change that to 9, then 1 is moved into Lost and Found right ? But its not really Lost at all it really is damaged/expired. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:12 <vengfulsquirrel> *In the scenario where you are taking inventory for a product and 10 are expected. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:15 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: there is many possibilities: | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: you can make an inventory with an other location for product damaged | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:16 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: or you can make an internal packing to a damaged location | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:17 <cedk> but for me a damaged product can no more be sale, so it is like a lost | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:18 <vengfulsquirrel> yeah Lost seems like it is going to be Found, like someone moved it without telling anyone in Inventory and you are waiting for that person to return it or for someone to find it | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:19 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but for the company, it is the same lost or damaged or expired | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:20 <cedk> because you can no more sale it or use it | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:23 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: except if you have different behavior for damaged product ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:23 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm from a sales perspective yes they are the same, but not from the inventory management perspective, losing stuff is a different problem from having stuff expire or get damaged. You know for the most part what happened to damaged and/or expired stuff but you don't know why stuff is getting lost. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:24 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: so just create a location for damaged product | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:26 <vengfulsquirrel> I was thinking about adding another column to an inventory, expired quantity, which would automatically make a move from the location to the Expired location for the wharehouse. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:26 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it is doable in a module | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:28 <vengfulsquirrel> Okay I think it would be similar to Lost and Found but just have a different meaning and could help keep inventory more accurate in companies that have expirable goods.(and similarly for damagable goods) | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:28 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: except that generally you count the product that you find damaged, and not the product you lost :-) | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:29 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: so perhaps it is better to create a new form | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:29 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: where you put the quantity of product that you remove from the stock | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:30 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: we are working on a module for product breakage | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:31 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it is a form like the inventory but where you put the quantity of product breaked | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:31 <vengfulsquirrel> Well lost quantity = expected quantity - (found quantity + damaged quantity) | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:31 <cedk> s/breaked/broken/ | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:32 <vengfulsquirrel> Why would you count damaged items at a seperate time from counting non-damaged items? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:33 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I think you update the stock quantity with damaged product than with inventory | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:34 <cedk> most of the company make an inventory once by year | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:34 <cedk> but they encode daily or weekly, the product that they trash | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:36 <vengfulsquirrel> encode? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:36 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: put in the system | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:37 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah I thought weekly cycling inventories was supposed to prevent having to do a yearly inventory ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:37 <cedk> in belgium, a company must do a at least one inventory per year | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:40 <vengfulsquirrel> That's really weird. You mean all at once ? If its over a few weeks then its not much different than cycling. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:41 <vengfulsquirrel> Does the government have to come in and oversee it ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:42 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: no gov :-) and I don't know much about details | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:43 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: but many company make this in the first day of january | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:44 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm interesting | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:46 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: I need to speak with our accountant for some thing, I can ask him about the inventory stuffs | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:51 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Okay, can you look at this diagram? http://laspilitas.com/s/images/stock-layout-2.png | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:52 <vengfulsquirrel> I'm still trying to get organized to get some discussion going on the mailing list about Production planning. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:53 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: seems good, except that I think "Consumed by production" is the same than Production | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:54 <vengfulsquirrel> Hmm yeah that might be right I didn't think of that. | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:54 <cedk> and generally, I see the lost and found outside the warehouse (but it is a question of matter) | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:56 <vengfulsquirrel> Do you think having an Input/Output for production is logical ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:57 <cedk> vengfulsquirrel: it can if there is like some quality check before and after the production | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:58 <cedk> that makes the product not yet ready for sale | ||
| 2009-01-11 00:58 <cedk> but it must be optional | ||
| 2009-01-11 01:02 <vengfulsquirrel> Yeah I was thinking of the physical movement from Storage to the production line and then re-stocking the results of the production. | ||
| 2009-01-11 01:04 <vengfulsquirrel> So I guess once the production run actually happened allocated goods in the production input zone would be moved into Production, and the produced goods would be moved from Production into the production output zone. | ||
| 2009-01-11 01:04 <cedk> I think | ||
| 2009-01-11 01:14 <vengfulsquirrel> cedk: Okay thanks for your time, I gotta run for now but I'll be back later. | ||
| 2009-01-11 02:13 <CIA-8> tryton: Mathias Behrle <mathiasb@behrle.dyndns.org> default * 422:4f00e2974af7 stock/de_DE.csv: Update translation for de_DE | ||
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| 2009-01-11 11:00 <CIA-8> tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: pay attention to this: this part is only used "for move in packing.inventory_moves:" so this is not really an outgoing package but a package of a ... | ||
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| 2009-01-11 11:58 <CIA-8> tryton: bch roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: I think also that one should use the cost_price for inventory moves (storage to outgoing location) and the list price for the outgoing moves (from ... | ||
| 2009-01-11 12:02 <CIA-8> tryton: ced roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @timitos: False, it is the loop that create outgoing moves. | ||
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| 2009-01-11 12:07 <CIA-8> tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @ced: i am speaking about def set_state_packed and this lines (line 540) of packing.py in stock module: unit_price = uom_obj.compute_price( ... | ||
| 2009-01-11 12:11 <CIA-8> tryton: ced roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: @timitos: read the line 543, unit_price is used to create the outgoing move. | ||
| 2009-01-11 12:16 <CIA-8> tryton: Timitos roundup * #742/stock.packing.out: list_price for inventory_moves?: ok. so i was blind. thx for pointing me this out. but i am still not sure if list_price is the right price here. i will try to go deeper again int ... | ||
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| 2009-01-11 13:03 <cristi_an> i ahev some diffculties in installing mercurial | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:03 <cristi_an> is possible to do that using apt-get ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:03 <cristi_an> i want to install tryton manualy step by step not using the dev script | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:07 <cristi_an> is this ok ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:07 <cristi_an> sudo apt-get install mercurial | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:07 <CIA-8> tryton: carlos@pemas.es * r414 /wiki/HowtoCreateAChartOfAccounts.wiki: Initial page to document a chart of accounts creation. | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:07 <CIA-8> tryton: carlos@pemas.es * r415 /wiki/HowtoCreateAChartOfAccounts.wiki: Added some notes while I'm learning how everything works, so I can integrate that in a longer explanation. | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:08 <cristi_an> carlos: good job i will need that information how to creat chart of acounts :) | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:09 <carlos> cristi_an: I'm just starting with it, the document is not useful at all right now | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:09 <cristi_an> will be :) iam sure | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:09 <cristi_an> i just start myself | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:09 <carlos> cristi_an: btw, apt-get install mercurial should work if you are not using a really old distribution | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:09 <cristi_an> ubuntu | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:09 <carlos> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:10 <carlos> and it's available | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:10 <cristi_an> i use 8.4 or so | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:10 <cristi_an> but on mercurial site on debian does not write such thing | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:10 <cristi_an> http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/BinaryPackages | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:11 <cristi_an> it write below on rpm instaltions :) | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:11 <carlos> cristi_an: by default, try with apt-cache search PACKAGE | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:11 <carlos> to see whether it's available in your distribution | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:11 <carlos> and if it's not available, follow the instructions like the ones in the selenic website | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:13 <cristi_an> it is | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:13 <cristi_an> i run it and is installed thx | ||
| 2009-01-11 13:14 <cristi_an> wondered why on mercurial page do not write about apt-get on debian packages | ||
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| 2009-01-11 15:38 <cristi_an> Timitos: ich habe ein kleine problem | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:38 <cristi_an> http://paste.ubuntu.com/103541/ | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:39 <cristi_an> i can't find the vatnumber directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:39 <cristi_an> or shoud i crete that ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:40 <Timitos> cristi_an: i think you first need to download the repository | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:40 <cristi_an> i just did | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:40 <cristi_an> i am on that step | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:40 <cristi_an> that is in paste shown | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:41 <cristi_an> isntalling the optioanl packages | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:41 <Timitos> first you should navigate with a terminal into the vatnumber directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:42 <Timitos> i think it could be perhaps in your home directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:43 <cristi_an> ok but vatnumer directory is missing...if you run the dev-script.sh from what i see | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:44 <Timitos> cristi_an: yes. because it is optional | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:44 <cristi_an> so how do i get it then ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:44 <cristi_an> :) | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:46 <Timitos> terminal: hg clone http://hg.tryton.org/hg/vatnumber | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:47 <cristi_an> i assume in module directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:49 <Timitos> cristi_an: no | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:49 <Timitos> choose another directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> well and do not knwo why but you are right | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> when i choosed modules directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> i got an error | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:51 <cristi_an> then i created an optional directory and there i received all files | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:51 <Timitos> vatnumber is not a module. it is another project you can say | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:52 <cristi_an> and it may be installed as a packege on debian | ||
| 2009-01-11 15:52 <cristi_an> ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:01 <Timitos> cristi_an: you can use python setup.py install | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:01 <Timitos> cristi_an: the setup.py is in the vatnumber directory | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> i did that | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> it's ok | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> i am just reviewing the discussion we had in december | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:02 <cristi_an> since i want to do the instaltion pretty much as independed as i can | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:03 <cristi_an> then i executed blindly all commdans from you | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:03 <cristi_an> it worked but i did not understood why...:) | ||
| 2009-01-11 16:04 <Timitos> :-) | ||
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| 2009-01-11 18:51 <udono> cedk: hello, I tried the half night to get the mercurial ssl wrapper run... http://www.selenic.com/repo/hg-stable/raw-file/tip/contrib/hg-ssh but no chance, my command="..." in the authorized keys file is never evaluated. Do you have an idea? | ||
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| 2009-01-11 18:54 <cedk> udono: the user must have a shell | ||
| 2009-01-11 18:57 <udono> cedk: he has a shell :-( | ||
| 2009-01-11 18:58 <udono> cedk: where do you place the hg-ssh script? I put it in usr/local/bin | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:00 <udono> cedk: because I think the script is called by the sshd user... | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:00 <udono> but maybe I just need a fresh start ... | ||
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| 2009-01-11 19:11 <cristi_an> for the near future : is possible to link tryton client to a receipt printer ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:12 <cristi_an> i am 100 % sure that is possible to make native calls from python .bu tis this possible to do from client ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:13 <cristi_an> it is all about serial comunications for some printers | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:16 <cedk> udono: you must put it in a place in the PATH | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:18 <cristi_an> cedk: a yes or no to my question not more | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:19 <cedk> cristi_an: you can define any programs for printing | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:20 <cristi_an> i was thinking how the call from client may be done...but i assume like opening open office | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:20 <cristi_an> open office is an external program | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:20 <cristi_an> maybe the same i can call some exe with parameters in this case | ||
| 2009-01-11 19:39 <cristi_an> cedk: so answer is yes ? i may use any external device for printing as long as i have the comm protocol ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:08 <yangoon> cristi_an: have a look under Files Actions in the client menu | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:11 <cristi_an> yangoon: under which menu ? | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:12 <cristi_an> i found admin/actions | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:12 <yangoon> cristi_an: client menu, topmost | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:13 <cristi_an> there is a button called action | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:13 <cristi_an> No action defined yet ! | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:14 <yangoon> cristi_an: Preferences/Files Actions | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:17 <cristi_an> aha | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:19 <cristi_an> it is disabled on the demo | ||
| 2009-01-11 20:55 <CIA-8> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 154:ef9617b2c5f7 stock_supply/COPYRIGHT: Updated Copyright | ||
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