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| 2008-11-07 11:04 <CIA-58> tryton: Bertrand Chenal <bch@b2ck.com> default * 270:c97fdf3a5de6 account/fr_FR.csv: Removed extra capitals and typo | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:24 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1208:ff459430a014 trytond/TODO: Add TODO | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:24 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1209:193ab1868b13 trytond/trytond/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:24 <CIA-58> tryton: Remove uninstallable state on module | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:24 <CIA-58> tryton: Improve update_list and _update_dependencies on ir.module.module | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:28 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1210:00c7433cc5b4 trytond/trytond/res/ir.xml: Remove old access to ir.module.category | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:34 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 1211:ca017af8d910 trytond/trytond/web_service/db.py: Update module list after set the language to have the modules translated | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:50 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 66:7ec064fecc14 gentoo-overlay/app-tryton/account_statement/ (Manifest account_statement-9999.ebuild): Add account_statement ebuild | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:50 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 67:4a2c3226d88f gentoo-overlay/app-tryton/ (34 files in 17 dirs): Add dodoc | ||
| 2008-11-07 11:59 <CIA-58> tryton: C?dric Krier <ced@b2ck.com> default * 68:efbcabbd31a2 gentoo-overlay/app-tryton/timesheet/ (Manifest timesheet-9999.ebuild): Add timesheet ebuild | ||
| 2008-11-07 13:00 <yangoon> cedk: bechamel: there is a number of untranslated items from predefined records as e.g. group names in user administration, name of cron jobs | ||
| 2008-11-07 13:00 <yangoon> I think it would be nice to have those items translated too | ||
| 2008-11-07 13:01 <yangoon> what do you thnk about it? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:06 <cedk> yangoon: I already think about it, but as we are supposed to no more change the translation, I postpone it | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:06 <cedk> yangoon: but if you agree, I can make it | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:09 <yangoon> cedk: great, should I create item in bugtracker to collect those items or are you aware nevertheless? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:10 <cedk> yangoon: it is ok, it is just the user name, group name and cron name | ||
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| 2008-11-07 14:16 <yangoon> hi nicoe | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:17 <nicoe> hello | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:17 <yangoon> just have a question to relatorio | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:17 <nicoe> yes I am listening | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:18 <yangoon> when starting theserver you always get /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/relatorio-0.2.0-py2.5.egg/relatorio/reporting.py:94: UserWarning: We were not able to load relatorio.templates.pdf. You will not be able to use its functonlities | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:18 <yangoon> entrypoint.module_name) | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:18 <yangoon> could you change it in info message? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:19 <nicoe> Why do you mean by that ? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:19 <nicoe> :s/Why/what | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:20 <yangoon> it makes impression, that relatorio perhaps won't work for tryton, but it is of no matter | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:21 <yangoon> If it wouldn't be UserWarning, but just an informational message, it would be clearer | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:21 <nicoe> I could reword the message to make it clear that it is just the pdf functionalities that will be disabled | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:21 <yangoon> that would be great | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:21 <nicoe> warnings are what they are warnings ... | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:22 <yangoon> its functionalities: user doesn't know which functionalities exactly | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:22 <yangoon> so would be ice just to avoid misunderstandings | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:22 <yangoon> nice;) | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:22 <nicoe> trytond could just use the warnings module to ensure that the warnings are correctly handled | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:23 <nicoe> So indeed I think a rewording is needed but I don't think I'll stop using the warnings module | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:24 <yangoon> I think rewording will just do the trick | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:26 <nicoe> cedk, I think I'll make a new release, in order to support the new release of pycha and to remove the entrypoint stuff | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:26 <yangoon> great, thx! | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:26 <cedk> nicoe: ok | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:27 <nicoe> I suggest you test it before you make the release to avoid some bugreport :) | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:27 <nicoe> I'll warn you by email when I think the package is in a releasable state. | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:30 <yangoon> cedk: are there any plans to have a freeze model before releases, for example like a devel branch always continuing and a freeze branch only for bugfixing before release? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:31 <cedk> yangoon: yes we will create a branch for release 1.0 | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:33 <yangoon> cedk: when is it planned? just at release time or already before? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:33 <cedk> yangoon: just at release time | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:35 <yangoon> cedk: so freezing will just be by the discipline of the maintainers? | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:36 <cedk> yangoon: yes, we just make fixes for now | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:36 <cedk> and as we try to keep the repository always stable | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:36 <yangoon> :D | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:40 <cedk> yangoon: translate=True is done | ||
| 2008-11-07 14:40 <cedk> and it must have some new translations in purchase module | ||
| 2008-11-07 15:16 <yangoon> Obama has killed our CIA | ||
| 2008-11-07 15:28 <yangoon> cedk: there are new items in purchase and ir, but no user names etc. after database update | ||
| 2008-11-07 15:31 <cedk> yangoon: it will work only on new database | ||
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| 2008-11-07 16:56 <yangoon> cedk: any chance to get items declared later as translatable with translate=True via update into the database? | ||
| 2008-11-07 16:57 <cedk> yangoon: no it will cost to much for the update process | ||
| 2008-11-07 16:57 <cedk> and it is usefull only for translator, not for end user | ||
| 2008-11-07 16:59 <yangoon> cedk: but it is really important if you take into account, that as a translator you will have to create each time new database that has to be configured from scratch, losing all items such as parties, products, taxes etc. etc. | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:00 <yangoon> cedk: so it is very much work to run those testing databases | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:01 <cedk> yangoon: you don't need to configure the database to translate items | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:02 <yangoon> cedk: but if you are testing, you are looking for (as a translator) the translatiosn as well when working with the testing database | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:03 <yangoon> cedk: so if you do in different databases you will very probably lose track of translatiosn you know you did already and those you have to do | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:04 <yangoon> cedk: and you don't see in your working database how translations behaves, where you have to do finetuning etc. | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:04 <yangoon> cedk: but have to leave now, can discuss later | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:04 <yangoon> cu | ||
| 2008-11-07 17:18 <cedk> yangoon: ok, this changeset must fix this issue: e8d9660f2832 | ||
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| 2008-11-07 18:06 <CIA-58> tryton: ced roundup * #447/numword: doesn't install: [resolved] You must run the setup.py from the package directory. | ||
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| 2008-11-07 19:07 <cedk> jkoerner: hi | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:08 <jkoerner> moin(German for "hi") | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:11 <cedk> jkoerner: did you try Tryton? | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:11 <jkoerner> no, I use tudo erp. I know yangoon and udono from apps I was interested beforo | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:12 <jkoerner> s/beforo/before | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:15 <cedk> jkoerner: which functionality are you looking for? | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:17 <jkoerner> I do some programming myself. So I'm quite independent | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:18 <jkoerner> I try to look above the border and see what's happening elsewhere | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:19 <cedk> jkoerner: we have some nice functionnality for developpement | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:19 <cedk> especialy for customization | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:19 <cedk> with some lines of code, you can change any standard functionnality of the system | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:20 <jkoerner> My programm version is quite complete, I'm satisfied with it. Not to mention that I don't like python… ;) | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:21 <jkoerner> cu | ||
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| 2008-11-07 19:22 <CIA-59> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r298 /wiki/Release_1_0_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface. | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:22 <CIA-59> tryton: cedric.krier@b2ck.com * r299 /wiki/Release_1_0_0.wiki: Edited wiki page through web user interface. | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:22 <CIA-59> tryton: mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r300 /wiki/InstallationMercurial.wiki: minor fixes | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:22 <CIA-59> tryton: mathias.behrle@gmx.de * r301 /wiki/ReleaseGeneral.wiki: Added tagging | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:53 <udono> Has anyone a good general definition for "Workflow" and "Wizard"? | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:58 <cedk> udono: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workflow_application | ||
| 2008-11-07 19:59 <cedk> udono: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_(software) | ||
| 2008-11-07 20:37 <udono> cedk, thanks. I see, both are not topic of the client documentation... | ||
| 2008-11-07 20:39 <udono> cedk, are the terms 'record' and 'resource' similar used in our communications? | ||
| 2008-11-07 20:42 <cedk> udono: normally, we try to use only record | ||
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| 2008-11-07 20:57 <udono> cedk, good decision. I try to avoid 'resource', too | ||
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| 2008-11-07 21:42 <udono> cedk, how we call a 'form' inside a tab, in-depend of its presentation as a form, tree, graph? I would call it 'model', but this seems to generic... suggestions? | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:43 <udono> bechamel, yangoon ? | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:44 <cedk> udono: it is a view | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:44 <cedk> which can be of type form or tree | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:44 <cedk> or board | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:45 <udono> cedk, we have boards? | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:45 <cedk> and if type form there is subtype tree, form, graph | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:45 <cedk> udono: yes but we don't yet use it in module | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:45 <cedk> it is a view that handle other views | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:46 <cedk> and there is a possibility to communicate between each views | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:46 <udono> :-) | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:46 <cedk> it must be use for reporting | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:53 <udono> cedk: but we having a double meaning for 'form': A view can be type form, which is subtyped in tree form graph... | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:57 <cedk> udono: yes | ||
| 2008-11-07 21:58 <udono> cedk, ok, I try to explain in glossary... | ||
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| 2008-11-07 23:45 <udono> cedk, bechamel didnt we have the Form type 'List'? | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:48 <bechamel> udono: no what we call list is actually a tree in the code | ||
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| 2008-11-07 23:49 <bechamel> udono: it come from the gtk: list is just a specila case of tree (where the is no hierarchy) | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:50 <udono> bechamel, you are right I cant find the word "list" as keyword... | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:50 <udono> bechamel, thx | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:50 <bechamel> udono: but iirc we talked with cedk to use a less confusing wording, and decided to keep it like that for this release | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:52 <udono> bechamel, yes, you are right. I am just sitting at a glossary of words used in our jargon... it will explain the detail you like to have, and its easy extendable | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:54 <udono> ... I learned this from a technical writer I met in the past... | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:55 <bechamel> udono: a glossary jedi ? | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:55 <bechamel> :D | ||
| 2008-11-07 23:57 <bechamel> udono: "more training to master the glossary force, you need." (http://www.yodaspeak.co.uk/index.php) |
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